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Mentor: NLFool, DiscoBisco, and RapidEvolution (#1) - 200NL Full Ring by RapidEvolution, NLFool, DiscoBisco

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Mid Stakes
  • 58 minutes long
  • Posted about 2 years ago

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Comments for Mentor: NLFool, DiscoBisco, and RapidEvolution (#1) - 200NL Full Ring

madlex

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Cool, the new FR guys Wink

Just out of curiosity: Is any one of you a Stars Midstake Regular or are you playing on FT/UB(sigh)/EuroSites?

Posted over 2 years ago

NLFool

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Cool, the new FR guys Wink

Just out of curiosity: Is any one of you a Stars Midstake Regular or are you playing on FT/UB(sigh)/EuroSites?



I am a mid stakes reg on Stars

Posted over 2 years ago

threads13

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Time Link to 00:00:53

I am playing this hand 100% versus a guy with these stats. He likely is opening wider than 8% in EP and that is wide enough to steal from, imo.

I personally don't care much if other callers are in the hand or not because I'm mostly playing these sorts of hands for a steal. I think implied odds on SCs are really overrated given the way these games pay. You could either call and play position or 3-bet. 3-bet might be good here if you really are worried about the short stackers, but I don't think they are going to squeeze much wider than 6% of the time each.

Posted over 2 years ago

Saydon

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can anyone please post a link to exact this chipmod!please im searching them forever but never found them:/


thanks in advance

Posted over 2 years ago

phos77

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Time Link to 00:45:22

why such a massive 3bet? is this standard IP?
is it because he minraised?

Posted over 2 years ago

DiscoBisco

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can anyone please post a link to exact this chipmod!please im searching them forever but never found them:/


thanks in advance



PM me, and I can send it to you

Posted over 2 years ago

DiscoBisco

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why such a massive 3bet? is this standard IP?
is it because he minraised?



doesn't really seem massive to me. he minraised to 2x, i 3bet to 8x, seems ok. i mean 7x would be fine too imo, but 3betting that to any less than 14 would be a little too small i think

Posted over 2 years ago

Saydon

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PM me, and I can send it to you




how do i PM you here?never done it before

Posted over 2 years ago

DiscoBisco

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how do i PM you here?never done it before



just highlight over my name/avatar and it will bring a little pop up that says send a private message to discobisco.

i went ahead and PM'd you tho. When you log into DC it should have a little red 1 near the top right of the login page. You can view your PM's under the MY DC tab.

Posted over 2 years ago

stumblehere

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great stuff guys
hope to see more spots in the next one
glad to see a 15/11 run at 21/17

Posted over 2 years ago

DiscoBisco

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Time Link to 00:43:21

I would just like to be the first to say I butchered this hand. LOL. I definitely should have 3b pre or gotten it in on flop. Probably the biggest mistake being not 3betting pre to iso the cold caller who was pretty fishy.

Posted over 2 years ago

RapidEvolution

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why such a massive 3bet? is this standard IP?
is it because he minraised?



Remember that making a 4x 3bet size vs a minraise is very different than making it 4x the original raise if it's a 3-4bb open. When villains open to 3-4bb and we make it 10-12bb, we're giving the villain the opportunity to make a mistake by investing too large a % of his stack preflop if he's going to call us OOP with something speculative. If we use that same kind of ruling vs a minraise, we'd only be making villain put in 4-5bb more to see the flop, which isn't going to be an error with a lot of his holdings.

In NLFool's other vid, he talks about one of the benefits of opening smaller; that being that villains usually tend to either 3bet too small and let him in cheaply, or make it way too large in an attempt to price him out, but then they are giving themselves a horrendous price on their 3bet. 3betting a minraise to 8bb (especially IP) seems a very balanced size imo.

Posted over 2 years ago

Dobert4ever

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very good and entertaining vid imo Smile

Vids with two coaches or a coach and a student interacting are always the best ones imo.

Posted over 2 years ago

DanhBai

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Disco, you have a very impressive graph! How many hours a day/week do you typically play and how many tables?

Posted over 2 years ago

DiscoBisco

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Disco, you have a very impressive graph! How many hours a day/week do you typically play and how many tables?



I average about 3-4 hours/day 12-14 tabling.

Posted over 2 years ago

Gauss

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Time Link to 00:14:17

why would you open A8 suited with four or so shorts behind you, isnt this a hand you dont want to have to play for 20bbs but instead want to flop a monster with deeper players?

Posted over 2 years ago

DiscoBisco

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why would you open A8 suited with four or so shorts behind you, isnt this a hand you dont want to have to play for 20bbs but instead want to flop a monster with deeper players?



i feel like the shorties are just shoving or folding so we dont really need to worry about them (becuz its an easy fold if they shove), but the real key in opening this here is the 29/14 fish in the small blind that we can play a pot in position with.

Posted over 2 years ago

Freudian

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What's the reason behind not color coding the short stackers? Basically I use one color for the tighter short stackers (especially tight from the blinds) and one for the looser ones where you have to call a bit lighter. It also helps with quickly identifying when you are in a bad spot with two shorties to your left.

I don't color code fish or bad players. I tend to notice them at the table quite fast no matter what (10-tabling) since they are involved in so many hands.

Posted over 2 years ago

DiscoBisco

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What's the reason behind not color coding the short stackers? Basically I use one color for the tighter short stackers (especially tight from the blinds) and one for the looser ones where you have to call a bit lighter. It also helps with quickly identifying when you are in a bad spot with two shorties to your left.

I don't color code fish or bad players. I tend to notice them at the table quite fast no matter what (10-tabling) since they are involved in so many hands.



seems kinda opposite lol. i would think its much more important to color code fish since you want to know exactly where they are at all times. that includes just browsing through the lobby for table selection. i use my color codings 100% for table selection. if i look in the lobby and see a table with lots of regs i move on, if i see lots of fish i sit down.

the reason for not color coding shorties is theyre viruses and theyre everywhere, and pretty much i have everyone but shorties color coded. so if i see someone without a code i can safely assume its a shorty almost instantly.

Posted over 2 years ago

don melchor

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needfinesse

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Disco's a winning player. Wins by playing what seems like a safe weak tight style. Shows any style can win as long as you play it well.

You can tell this is just a walk in the park for NLFool. He's so good at doing sweats.

Posted over 2 years ago

LowWaterMark

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Kudos on identifying the statistics straight away.

I'm easily pleased and that makes me very happy!

Posted over 2 years ago

DiscoBisco

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Disco's a winning player. Wins by playing what seems like a safe weak tight style. Shows any style can win as long as you play it well.

You can tell this is just a walk in the park for NLFool. He's so good at doing sweats.



LOL. I wouldn't call my style a "safe weak tight" style. I just tend to avoid high variance marginal spots. Thats what I would call my style. "High variance marginal spot avoidance with no FPS"

Posted over 2 years ago

DiscoBisco

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Kudos on identifying the statistics straight away.

I'm easily pleased and that makes me very happy!



Yeah pretty confident we are making a point to do this within the first 2-3 mins of every video. Every video I ever watched I would be so upset if ppl wouldn't explain their hud stats.

Posted over 2 years ago

Ando Wonder

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solid video...great cbetting and barreling info.

Posted over 2 years ago

RapidEvolution

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What's the reason behind not color coding the short stackers? Basically I use one color for the tighter short stackers (especially tight from the blinds) and one for the looser ones where you have to call a bit lighter. It also helps with quickly identifying when you are in a bad spot with two shorties to your left.

I don't color code fish or bad players. I tend to notice them at the table quite fast no matter what (10-tabling) since they are involved in so many hands.



I'm with disco on the fact that color-coding the fish is more important than coding the ssers (but both are important imo). Remember that the huge benefit to color-coding is that we can identify fishy tables BEFORE we get there. It's not always the case that a table's VPIP is gonna be super high if there are 1-2 fish and a bunch of nits. However, if we're looking through tables that have 1-2 fish-tags, we can hop on the waiting list right away. It's not like we read every player's name from the lobby. OTOH, shorties are easy to spot by their stack size (and even if some of the shorties at a table are just bad, it's still cutting our profit).

Posted over 2 years ago

dwater

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Really enjoyed the video.

At the 13 min mark you folded to a "6/6" BTN 3 bet with AQ and went on to describe why he can only have aces.

The problem was you were getting way too much info from a very small sample.
At the time you had exactly 32 hands on the guy.

I looked up the guy in my HH DB and it turns out he plays 12/10/3 and 3 bets over 4% from the button over 2000 hands.

The analysis was great but I just think you were drawing some huge conclusions based on very small samples with some of the players.

Posted over 2 years ago

dwater

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sorry the above got posted in the wrong video thread

Posted over 2 years ago

Blennus

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Time Link to 00:18:22

Hi, would you get it in With JJ when the tight MP3 openraiser comes over the top? I think this is a very close spot, i think the BB isn´t that light since hes pretty tight and MP3 has sich a small 4bet Range

Posted over 2 years ago



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