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Time Link to 00:06:30
nice tie back to the first episode. these kinds of linkages are really helpful, especially for people who might be wondering how reads evolve and are confirmed
whats the worst hand we vbet river after betting 2 streets on this texture?
Against tough/thinking opponents, most or all queens. In this match given what we've seen so far, maybe Q8 or so, kind of for the same reasons that I think we can 3 barrel bluff here pretty happily, assuming we do decide to cbet
Time Link to 00:07:23
with this K6o-hand - here you said that sometimes you treat such weak K-high as weak SD-value and just checkback on such a flop.
Is it b/c you are looking to bluffcatch turns and rivers?
Have less clue bout HU-play (I am a 6max-reg, but a good HU-vid is always interesting
), but at 6max, I would have on such a board vs. many villains better SD in my checkback-range,
so I would not like to include in my checkback_range such weak SD-value, at least not with the intention to bluffcatch later on.
But w/o bluffcatching I think I would cme too rarely to the SD as winner, so I would most bet OTF or maybe even checkback (to give up) vs. some ppl who coldcall less in the BB and are prettyl
broadway-heavy....
Time Link to 00:09:00
T2o:
Here I am not so 100% sure if your assumption about villain`s checkingrange (= mostly weak) OTT is correct.
I would agree with you on a board like a JT7s.Board.
But this board is a pretty good perceived board to cbet air on -> hence villain might think that hero has often some potcontroled SD-value which he at latest will now bet OTT to not give any further freecard away and to start extracting some (thin) value.
Time Link to 00:12:59
a5o:
also dislike the cbet OTF for your reasoning.
as played,
barelling is in the vacuum fine, but as a gameplan certainly not <-> I guess that is not so important HU b/c likely you do not play your opponents daily or very frequently?
But if you would 6max barell here through vs a competent regular you play almost daily, then it is clear that your range is very very airheavy there, when you barell even with poor EQ-hands....
would also not fire the 3rd on a king, I think - in addition to all the other cards you have already mentioned.
Time Link to 00:18:00
65o:
what you think about 2ndbarelling the turn here?
I mean,
we can get to fold some EQ-shares, such as KQ, KJ, QJ.., which might bet the river and we have to fold.
Also maybe some 7x-hands might fold such as K7s, Q7s... (btw. what would be your turnplan with potential ideas for the river in villain`s shoes w a hand like 97s, 78s vs. a 2ndbarell OTT?).
And finally we maybe can 3barell some rivercards, such as clubs, 5 and 6 obv.
Any further cards we might like to bet OTR should we decide to 2ndbrell OTT? what about on a Q, J, K?
or a 9 or 8?
btw.,
great vid so far![]()
Time Link to 00:20:43
so instead of C/Folding on this turn (when decided to not C/Call ), then you would rather just 2ndbarell, right?
I guess just to make many draws to fold, so that a bet would be w our EQ already mostly +ev.
On which rivercards you would liek to bluffjam there?
Time Link to 00:21:58
87s:
what would be your plan there vs. an unknown reg?
maybe call and valueraise any 4 and 9 and bluffraise every heart OTR?
Then we would be able to continue in 30% OTR vs a bet - actually not too often - what you think?
with this K6o-hand - here you said that sometimes you treat such weak K-high as weak SD-value and just checkback on such a flop.
Is it b/c you are looking to bluffcatch turns and rivers?
Have less clue bout HU-play (I am a 6max-reg, but a good HU-vid is always interesting), but at 6max, I would have on such a board vs. many villains better SD in my checkback-range,
so I would not like to include in my checkback_range such weak SD-value, at least not with the intention to bluffcatch later on.
But w/o bluffcatching I think I would cme too rarely to the SD as winner, so I would most bet OTF or maybe even checkback (to give up) vs. some ppl who coldcall less in the BB and are prettyl
broadway-heavy....
Kinda just depends, i mean cbetting is ok, but you have little equity when called. Checking allows you to get a street closer to showdown and potentially bluff catch given that it's a board that isn't very easy to mullti street barrel. If I felt like I could barrel off here, then sure go ahead and cbet, but it's tough to profitably bet 2 or 3 streets here as a bluff against most opponents. Obviously whether or not you call turn or turn+river would depend a lot on how thinly your opponent can value bet here and how loose he is oop.
T2o:
Here I am not so 100% sure if your assumption about villain`s checkingrange (= mostly weak) OTT is correct.
I would agree with you on a board like a JT7s.Board.
But this board is a pretty good perceived board to cbet air on -> hence villain might think that hero has often some potcontroled SD-value which he at latest will now bet OTT to not give any further freecard away and to start extracting some (thin) value.
us appearing to having showdown value is a reason for villain to value bet the turn with his good hands, not check the turn...Keep in mind in HU that means K high and Q high which are not betting the turn
a5o:
also dislike the cbet OTF for your reasoning.
as played,
barelling is in the vacuum fine, but as a gameplan certainly not <-> I guess that is not so important HU b/c likely you do not play your opponents daily or very frequently?
But if you would 6max barell here through vs a competent regular you play almost daily, then it is clear that your range is very very airheavy there, when you barell even with poor EQ-hands....
would also not fire the 3rd on a king, I think - in addition to all the other cards you have already mentioned.
agree
65o:
what you think about 2ndbarelling the turn here?
I mean,
we can get to fold some EQ-shares, such as KQ, KJ, QJ.., which might bet the river and we have to fold.
Also maybe some 7x-hands might fold such as K7s, Q7s... (btw. what would be your turnplan with potential ideas for the river in villain`s shoes w a hand like 97s, 78s vs. a 2ndbarell OTT?).
And finally we maybe can 3barell some rivercards, such as clubs, 5 and 6 obv.
Any further cards we might like to bet OTR should we decide to 2ndbrell OTT? what about on a Q, J, K?
or a 9 or 8?
btw.,
great vid so far
yea good catch, i like barreling turn here, especially against loose opponents who can have a ton of the gutters here
so instead of C/Folding on this turn (when decided to not C/Call ), then you would rather just 2ndbarell, right?
I guess just to make many draws to fold, so that a bet would be w our EQ already mostly +ev.
On which rivercards you would liek to bluffjam there?
against many straight forward opponents you can ship (or perhaps c/c) almost any river card (not Qx prob not 8x) because they jam the turn way too often with their best bluff catchers, so you can take out a ton of the Qx from their range. Against tougher opponents who will be more willing to call you down with 8x here with a bunch of the draws brick or are capable of slowplaying more of their Qx, it becomes much more difficult
87s:
what would be your plan there vs. an unknown reg?
maybe call and valueraise any 4 and 9 and bluffraise every heart OTR?
Then we would be able to continue in 30% OTR vs a bet - actually not too often - what you think?
ya I like that plan much better than raising the turn, assuming we dont cbet, which would be my preferred play
Mr. WiltOnTilt,
just wanna quickly to say thank you to you that you have answered all my 10000 questions^^.
All replies have been rly helpful to me and I appreciate them a lot, thx man![]()
Mr. WiltOnTilt,
just wanna quickly to say thank you to you that you have answered all my 10000 questions^^.
All replies have been rly helpful to me and I appreciate them a lot, thx man
You're welcome, glad to help!
Time Link to 00:26:27
I disagree because villains VPIP is so high that he can end up with a lot of weaker one pair hands here such as Q9, J9, J8, and so on that other players probably couldn't.
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