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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by WiltOnTilt (Micro/Small Stakes)

Time Link to 00:20:15

given how easy villain seems to be making it for us OOP, what do you think about widening our calling range and playing the 78o for a min-raise? Seems like since villain isn't value betting very thinly and seems kind of bad we should be able to show a profit.

Time Link to 00:32:20

Interesting spot for me with the bet sizing. To me I would say that since I want him to fold his one pair hands I want to make a bet size that is believable with AT, and if we were value betting we would want to bet smaller simply because a big part of his range is one pair hands that have to hero call us.

Against this opponent, safe to say that we can make the exploitable play and bet bigger with his bluffs and smaller with our value hands to try and get the best of both worlds where he calls against our value range and hopefully folds against our bluffing range?

Or would you value bet big with a flush hoping to get more value out of non x/r'd two pairs?

Time Link to 00:43:20

Interesting; I would have opted for a x/c turn x/f river line and possibly either a thin value bet or a x/c if he checks back turn. You think he never calls with AJ / AT on the flop?

Time Link to 00:37:41

nope, he did bet the turn

21:30 : you said he should bet a jack on the turn. if i'm villian i struggle a bit with betting for "thin" value with a very capped range and im a little afraid to get exploited if he c/r big (~potsize or even bigger) on the turn and barreled on the river close to pot (or even bigger) if i call the c/r because he knows i have a very weak range when i delayed c bet on this turn. i think its somewhat ok to bet the turn with weak madehands because he wont try to c/r us very often for value because he cant expect us to bet the turn a lot when checked to but im a little but unsure. do you trapcheck the flop sometimes with Ax or FD to avoid being capped at Jx with your turn bettingrange? or do you think it isn't exploitable to bet the turn in villian shoes with a range wich is NEVER stronger than a jack?
i hope you get my point and can talk a bit about betting the turn in villian shoes.

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Time Link to 00:15:45

You ch back FD on the flop often ? I think both players have flush repping problem by the river.

Time Link to 00:26:38

The logic not to 3bet KQ/KJ is what exactly ? Vs someone that folds to alot of 3bets you want to keep the dominated hands in that would fold to a 3bet ? What other hands fall to this category ? AQ/AJ/AT/KT QJ?

Time Link to 00:27:41

Ever call 4bet with KQ ?

The logic not to 3bet KQ/KJ is what exactly ? Vs someone that folds to alot of 3bets you want to keep the dominated hands in that would fold to a 3bet ? What other hands fall to this category ? AQ/AJ/AT/KT QJ?

Basically. The entire reason to 3bet KQ/KJ is that people float preflop with alot of junk, so having a bunch more hands that stand up well to a range of floats like 97s is going to be good. If he's not floating, then there's no reason to 3bet those hands and we can just keep our flatting range even stronger.

given how easy villain seems to be making it for us OOP, what do you think about widening our calling range and playing the 78o for a min-raise? Seems like since villain isn't value betting very thinly and seems kind of bad we should be able to show a profit.

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Interesting spot for me with the bet sizing. To me I would say that since I want him to fold his one pair hands I want to make a bet size that is believable with AT, and if we were value betting we would want to bet smaller simply because a big part of his range is one pair hands that have to hero call us.

Against this opponent, safe to say that we can make the exploitable play and bet bigger with his bluffs and smaller with our value hands to try and get the best of both worlds where he calls against our value range and hopefully folds against our bluffing range?

Or would you value bet big with a flush hoping to get more value out of non x/r'd two pairs?

I'd probably just do as you initially suggest and bet bigger with the bluffs and smaller with the value hands against this particular villain

Interesting; I would have opted for a x/c turn x/f river line and possibly either a thin value bet or a x/c if he checks back turn. You think he never calls with AJ / AT on the flop?

The question isn't necessarily if he ever/never has those hands, but how often he has those hands compared to the rest of his range. We also would want to know whether or not he tries to bluff with those hands or if he would just check and try to get to showdown or if he might just bluff raise the flop instead of float People play those spots differently and it's not easy to know.

I'd much rather go for a turn c/c on a K Q J T than the 9.

21:30 : you said he should bet a jack on the turn. if i'm villian i struggle a bit with betting for "thin" value with a very capped range and im a little afraid to get exploited if he c/r big (~potsize or even bigger) on the turn and barreled on the river close to pot (or even bigger) if i call the c/r because he knows i have a very weak range when i delayed c bet on this turn. i think its somewhat ok to bet the turn with weak madehands because he wont try to c/r us very often for value because he cant expect us to bet the turn a lot when checked to but im a little but unsure. do you trapcheck the flop sometimes with Ax or FD to avoid being capped at Jx with your turn bettingrange? or do you think it isn't exploitable to bet the turn in villian shoes with a range wich is NEVER stronger than a jack?
i hope you get my point and can talk a bit about betting the turn in villian shoes.

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I was referring to hero with the 66 should bet the turn on the jack.

but if we are villain, and we do have a jack, i'd definitely still bet it since hero shouldn't really be going for a turn c/r on this card as it's very unlikely that the button will hit the J when he checks behind the flop. The only hands most would check behind there and hit the turn would be exactly KJ and maybe QJ as well since people usually will cbet their air on this board texture.

You ch back FD on the flop often ? I think both players have flush repping problem by the river.

not often, but sometimes, but mostly when betting this river i'm representing top pair and some 2 pairs

The logic not to 3bet KQ/KJ is what exactly ? Vs someone that folds to alot of 3bets you want to keep the dominated hands in that would fold to a 3bet ? What other hands fall to this category ? AQ/AJ/AT/KT QJ?

against guys who fold a lot, i typically 3bet a more polarized range because hands like KJ are great to see flops with as we can flop strong top pairs and play reasonably big pots with them against dominated hands. So if we're going to 3bet and get folds a lot, i'd rather call with it and use it to strengthen my flop checkraising or check/calling range.

It would be rare for me to not 3bet a hand as strong as AQ and KQ for those reasons, but the rest of them I'd take out of my 3bet range against nits

Ever call 4bet with KQ ?

against guys who habitually flat 4bets, then i do 4bet that hand

You ch back FD on the flop often ? I think both players have flush repping problem by the river.

Dont like the shove idea either because only better hand we get villain to fold is Jx. So if you are going to bluff 1/2 to 3/4 pot are good sizings to me (we rep Ax much better). We should also assume that villain might check with strong Ax hands on the river and will always call regardless of the sizing so shoving makes us lose more. If the river were nonheart J I like the shove a lot more because then our percieved range credibly contains the nuts.

Dont like the shove idea either because only better hand we get villain to fold is Jx. So if you are going to bluff 1/2 to 3/4 pot are good sizings to me (we rep Ax much better). We should also assume that villain might check with strong Ax hands on the river and will always call regardless of the sizing so shoving makes us lose more. If the river were nonheart J I like the shove a lot more because then our percieved range credibly contains the nuts.

why do you think he would/should check an ace on the river? the reason you guys don't want to shove is because we can't rep a flush... if we can't rep a flush that means we have showdown value most of the time, meaning Tx or Ax. It seems really bad for him to check Ax then, right?

Obviously if the guy isn't very good, then he can have more Ax in his range...and we kinda saw that in this video.

BTW i'm not opposed to a smaller bet size because again we're mostly trying to get him off Jx or some better hand he decided to bluff the turn with. I was probably sloppy saying shove not noticing that its a reasonably significant overbet.

Time Link to 00:41:18

the 3-5 spades hand hero 3 bets

if Villain raised here given he reps very little from what we have seen previous like you say, do you think sticking it in would have any / more merit that calling and playing a turn??

im caught between thinking on one hand thinking sticking it in protects vs his gutters that have 10 outs and some ramdom 6 out spazzes with 2 overs and just pure bluffs with some equity vs our hand...but on the other hand most the hands ive mentioned if they didnt improve to better than top pair will probs check back on the turn allowing us to turn our hand into a bluff possibly on the river and rep at least J-x

i might be trying to find away out of calling a raise just because im uncomfortable playing the turn..probs for the wrong reasons.

the 3-5 spades hand hero 3 bets

if Villain raised here given he reps very little from what we have seen previous like you say, do you think sticking it in would have any / more merit that calling and playing a turn??

im caught between thinking on one hand thinking sticking it in protects vs his gutters that have 10 outs and some ramdom 6 out spazzes with 2 overs and just pure bluffs with some equity vs our hand...but on the other hand most the hands ive mentioned if they didnt improve to better than top pair will probs check back on the turn allowing us to turn our hand into a bluff possibly on the river and rep at least J-x

i might be trying to find away out of calling a raise just because im uncomfortable playing the turn..probs for the wrong reasons.

both are options, shipping is kind of the easy way out and probably easy to show it's +EV.

If we call i think we can play very well on the turn against a guy like this. When he hits a pair with his gutter, he probably checks, when Q K A hits the turn he probably no longer value bets Jx (if he raised it to begin with anyway), and when one of those gutter cards hits and he still bets, he probably just has it.

So if the above assumptions shake out to be true pretty often, we can probably get it in happily on the turn on Q K A, if one of the gutter cards hits and he checks behind we now bluff the river, and if one of the gutter cards hits on the turn and he still bets, we probably have to sigh and fold, if A K Q hits the turn and he checks, river can get hard to know whether or not we turn our hand into bluff or not, if gutter card hits we probably do, if blank hits we maybe c/c.

Against tougher opponents this wouldn't work as easily but I think against this guy its the way i'd go.

both are options, shipping is kind of the easy way out and probably easy to show it's +EV.

If we call i think we can play very well on the turn against a guy like this. When he hits a pair with his gutter, he probably checks, when Q K A hits the turn he probably no longer value bets Jx (if he raised it to begin with anyway), and when one of those gutter cards hits and he still bets, he probably just has it.

So if the above assumptions shake out to be true pretty often, we can probably get it in happily on the turn on Q K A, if one of the gutter cards hits and he checks behind we now bluff the river, and if one of the gutter cards hits on the turn and he still bets, we probably have to sigh and fold, if A K Q hits the turn and he checks, river can get hard to know whether or not we turn our hand into bluff or not, if gutter card hits we probably do, if blank hits we maybe c/c.

Against tougher opponents this wouldn't work as easily but I think against this guy its the way i'd go.

nice one Wilt Thanx

Eary part of 2nd vid: in stats we see that v is folding to cbet 43% co we are close to break even according to our sizing. What do You thing about sizing down our cbet size to 10/16 (38% FE to BE) and go from there?


06:40

how wide are U going to bluff here ? all fd w/o showdown value ?

and if he calls his range is in large portion Tx, so what cards are U going to fire on the RIVER as a bluff ?
if V is good handreader he is going to snap off all of cards beside clubs, so after betting T with flushdraw we don't have super wide bluffing range?

31:13 - V is XRing a ton so we can discount decent amount of Ax from his range. Bet is cool

35:10 - is this XC with AJ all that good ? villans is cbetting 67% of the time so his range is strong + we have low ability to turn our hand into a bluff because this guy is missing value on the turn so his calling range on the flop is wide.

2nd thing is we are going to be owned so damn often on any turn card (obv J and A are good for us but rest no)@ this board texture so IMO XC in not that hot.


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Hi majstereo -

Eary part of 2nd vid: in stats we see that v is folding to cbet 43% co we are close to break even according to our sizing. What do You thing about sizing down our cbet size to 10/16 (38% FE to BE) and go from there?

A fine adjustment against unaware opponents but similar to another question, I'd be a little concerned about our adjustment inducing him to realize he's folding too much (obv sample size issues can come into play here). Keep in mind that him folding 43% is already a huge win for us given that we will have equity in the hand as well.

06:40

how wide are U going to bluff here ? all fd w/o showdown value ?

and if he calls his range is in large portion Tx, so what cards are U going to fire on the RIVER as a bluff ?
if V is good handreader he is going to snap off all of cards beside clubs, so after betting T with flushdraw we don't have super wide bluffing range?

Given the range I was putting him on, I think I would rarely bluff the river whether or not I had showdown value.

35:10 - is this XC with AJ all that good ? villans is cbetting 67% of the time so his range is strong + we have low ability to turn our hand into a bluff because this guy is missing value on the turn so his calling range on the flop is wide.

2nd thing is we are going to be owned so damn often on any turn card (obv J and A are good for us but rest no)@ this board texture so IMO XC in not that hot.

We have 6 outs and also showdown value, so I still like the flop peel. him cbettnig 67% is still plenty wide for us to have the best hand here very often, plus him missing value on the turn is more of an argument for a flop call than a flop fold because we realize our 6 outs of equity more often and when he does bet the turn he's more polarized so we don't have to be as worried about him thin value betting a weak pair against us, that means we're already getting better than 2:1 on a flop call with a hand that can show down a winner unimproved plus get to realize all of the ~25% equity fairly often when behind...so that seems like a pretty good proposition to me.

Good questions, thanks for watching!
WoT