Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by WiltOnTilt (Micro/Small Stakes)

Time Link to 00:56:09

With a vbet here, just shove or something like 25€? A little gross if we get raised though.

With a vbet here, just shove or something like 25€? A little gross if we get raised though.

I would just shove. He can definitely have worse Qx here (KQ Q9) and there's no guarantee he always folds Jx. Sure we can be beat some, but many of the hands that beat us can be discounted by either flop or turn action...so I'm pretty happy to have this hand in my river value range

Jesus Christ, the rake on ps.fr for normal ring games is already atrocious, but the hu rake is really ridiculous.
I guess it's ok for practice if you don't mind losing money but is this format even beatable?

Jesus Christ, the rake on ps.fr for normal ring games is already atrocious, but the hu rake is really ridiculous.
I guess it's ok for practice if you don't mind losing money but is this format even beatable?

The rake is brutal but so are the players from the few sessions i've coached on there. Your point is dead on though you need a nice edge.

Even given the fact you were playing the video in 1.7x speed it seemed he was pressing the buttons too often too fast. Maybe that is at least a partial reason for why he folded so much preflop and missed some value bets postflop.

I think, even though you got the non-stop talking out of this video anyways, at least 2-tabling recording will produce more interesting spots and some dynamic. Not complaining, just suggesting; good video

Thanks for the comment ninjacut. Just so you know next week will be another 1 tabling video (I already have it produced). I have some good things lined up for the weeks after that though. I'm having a guest coach lined up to help out and we are reviewing some of his students videos.

Time Link to 00:09:39

If we bet the flop with AJ there, do you like going 3 streets? If not, do you like bet bet check or bet check bet?

Time Link to 00:15:06

any merit in calling the turn since most of the value hands that call a turn x/r will bet the river again, most of the value hands that call a turn x/r and a river shove will call a river x/shove, and calling lets him bluff the river?

Time Link to 00:31:51

so with the QQ on the turn are you going for value mostly against draws? I'd expect a 7 to fold a lot since since his equity is poor and he can get counterfitted on the river. And against his draws, yeah we get value on the turn, but what's our plan for the river? x/c?

If we bet the flop with AJ there, do you like going 3 streets? If not, do you like bet bet check or bet check bet?

The better our opponent reads hands, the more I like bet bet check.

The worse the hand reader, I like bet check bet

any merit in calling the turn since most of the value hands that call a turn x/r will bet the river again, most of the value hands that call a turn x/r and a river shove will call a river x/shove, and calling lets him bluff the river?

Yea i think it's worth considering slowplaying the turn and checkraising the river, but some of these guys will puss out on the river with Qx but they might bet/call the turn Qx with diamond (and then if they hit, might call a river bet -- although it's true river bet might be a little thin against some players). Either way, it's definitely worth thinking about what is best vs each player. Against this particular guy I would probably prefer c/r turn

so with the QQ on the turn are you going for value mostly against draws? I'd expect a 7 to fold a lot since since his equity is poor and he can get counterfitted on the river. And against his draws, yeah we get value on the turn, but what's our plan for the river? x/c?

in 6m they might fold, but I don't necessarily think 7x or pocket pairs are auto folding this turn HU, plus like you said we get value/protection against some draws. I will say it is more important to bet this turn with QQ if the board is 782dd compared to 788dd, and this opponent isn't so tough anyway, so if we wanted to play the turn very face up and check, we could probably get away with it... but in general if you are facing a range where you are likely to get 1 more street of value and there are a good number of draws out, you might as well get that street on the turn. As for the river, against this particular guy we might c/c, vs others we could c/f the thinner they value bet (ie more Ax) and the more inclined they are to raise the flop with their semibluffs (fewer busted hands)

Time Link to 00:39:40

here you say you'd value shove pretty much any river. what about a Q or a T?

here you say you'd value shove pretty much any river. what about a Q or a T?

Yea i'd shove them both vs good players. Vs weaker/bad players you can opt to instead bet small and fold to a raise (even getting good odds)

Keep in mind this type of comment is also related to my overall gameplan and preflop strategy. For guys who aren't 3betting that much or aren't playing that aggro or are playing against guys who fold like 65-75% preflop, it could be too thin... so you just have to take all of those things into consideration. If you dont' have a guy who can call with some underpairs on occasion and their preflop range is like JT+ only then you might be running into a better hand too often on those rivers

You should hopefully have an idea of how he views the Q river... does it make him more or less likely to call with Jx or 99? Does he think you can value bet the Q river with Jx etc

Yea i'd shove them both vs good players. Vs weaker/bad players you can opt to instead bet small and fold to a raise (even getting good odds)

Keep in mind this type of comment is also related to my overall gameplan and preflop strategy. For guys who aren't 3betting that much or aren't playing that aggro or are playing against guys who fold like 65-75% preflop, it could be too thin... so you just have to take all of those things into consideration. If you dont' have a guy who can call with some underpairs on occasion and their preflop range is like JT+ only then you might be running into a better hand too often on those rivers

You should hopefully have an idea of how he views the Q river... does it make him more or less likely to call with Jx or 99? Does he think you can value bet the Q river with Jx etc

yeah good points. I was assuming the better underpairs like 88-TT prolly 4bet pre some % of the time, and when he did get to the river with them he'd be unlikely to call and he'd just call with Jx+. On a Q, that means the worse hands calling us are JT/J9s maybe J8s if he calls pre with that, and then we are getting snapped off by AJ/QJ which is more combos of better Jx than worse, plus the board was dry so he'd slow play sets a lot too. Obv if ppl call down with less than Jx a lot here than it's the easiest value shove ever. Do you get called by 88 a lot there when you 3barrel?

Time Link to 00:45:37

Shouldnt we just shove if raising at all? Raising 42 or whatever and get called/shoved on would look ugly when we have semibluffs, especially gutshots.

yeah good points. I was assuming the better underpairs like 88-TT prolly 4bet pre some % of the time, and when he did get to the river with them he'd be unlikely to call and he'd just call with Jx+. On a Q, that means the worse hands calling us are JT/J9s maybe J8s if he calls pre with that, and then we are getting snapped off by AJ/QJ which is more combos of better Jx than worse, plus the board was dry so he'd slow play sets a lot too. Obv if ppl call down with less than Jx a lot here than it's the easiest value shove ever. Do you get called by 88 a lot there when you 3barrel?

if your opponent has reason to believe you might be polarized here then pretty much KJ and below are all the same hand. I've def been able to get called here by 88 and similar, but you are right they might 4bet pre. It's not totally out of the question that people defend J9o, J8s, J7s, depending on preflop dynamics, but if those are in then probably 99/88/77 are out. I wouldn't say that I get called by 88 "a lot" but it definitely happens. J9o more so than hands like 88.

Shouldnt we just shove if raising at all? Raising 42 or whatever and get called/shoved on would look ugly when we have semibluffs, especially gutshots.

Looking back we could go a little smaller than 42, maybe closer to like 36 to win 32 would be better. But even still as mentioned in the video we probably aren't pure bluff raising here that much given the nature of the board it already connects with both preflop ranges... so most of our semibluffs are probably better draws than gutters here. Plus, you never know when people will spazz out and shoving doesn't really give him any ability to go nuts.

Time Link to 00:43:35

With the 78s hh on 8225hh (turned heart) if we call turn and check river, he bets big, what do we do assuming we don't improve? This is something I have had trouble with where you have a guy that we have not seen 3 barrel bluff and usually if I call he has at least a better 8.

So are you calling early in a match to see what he shows up with no matter what? What cards can hit on the river that make you decide to check fold to a 3rd bet?

With the 78s hh on 8225hh (turned heart) if we call turn and check river, he bets big, what do we do assuming we don't improve? This is something I have had trouble with where you have a guy that we have not seen 3 barrel bluff and usually if I call he has at least a better 8.

So are you calling early in a match to see what he shows up with no matter what? What cards can hit on the river that make you decide to check fold to a 3rd bet?

Early in a match I probably don't fold, later in a match I would call or fold the river depending on what I think he's expecting me to do with A high on this board...so if he's expecting me to never fold the turn with A high, then he should be bluffing more rivers, then I need to be calling for sure with 8x here (and possibly also with A high). If I think he's expecting me to fold turns with A high, then he expects my range to be more 8x, then maybe I need to fold the river more to his 3rd barrel