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Mentor: WiltonTilt (#3) - Sweat Session w Alex

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Mentor: WiltonTilt (#3) - Sweat Session w Alex by WiltOnTilt

Wilt plays a table of 6max NL and a table of heads up while student Alex sweats and discusses the situations that arise. Wilt and Alex discuss some plans for the next Real Life NL Grinder series as well.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Mid Stakes
  • 58 minutes long
  • Posted over 3 years ago

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TheChosenOne

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Time Link to 00:51:34

You called the river w/ 99 under the assumption that villain checked back the flop, which was not the case. Would you play your hand differently if you remembered that you did c/c the flop?

Posted over 3 years ago

TheChosenOne

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Time Link to 00:57:02

You make a very small vb here. What was your plan if you got c/r here?

Would you make the same play versus a better hand reader?

Posted over 3 years ago

trentcroad

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Nice job Aaron.

Any chance of some more HU ghost action from you anytime soon?

Posted over 3 years ago

WiltOnTilt

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You called the river w/ 99 under the assumption that villain checked back the flop, which was not the case. Would you play your hand differently if you remembered that you did c/c the flop?




oh crap, good catch. ya the river call is terrible given that he bet the flop. I was too focused on talking about the KQ hand on the other table. Yea river call is lighting $ on fire vs many ppl, esp that guy.

i prob c/f the turn had I remembered he didn't bet the flop. the A is a bad card for him to 2 barrel, it doesn't look like I'm folding, and on the river now his bet size just looks like he has a good kicker and doesn't expect me to fold. Sorry about that

Posted over 3 years ago

WiltOnTilt

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You make a very small vb here. What was your plan if you got c/r here?

Would you make the same play versus a better hand reader?




Good questions. I was bet/calling here because many people are too scared to check Tx here on the river given that I didn't bet the turn (many will check it on the turn to c/r but freak out once I check behind for good reason... it looks like I have marginal showdown value when I don't bet that turn). Also I think there was a hand earlier where I made a small block bet and folded to a raise, which would make me more likely to want to bet small here and call.

As for playing vs a better hand reader, I would either check or bet a polarizing amount on the river (like 90% pot or overbet). The better hand readers are going to expect me to bet draws on the turn a lot and also see a small bet for the small value that it is (ie, making a bet trying to get a call from A high). Also, many good hand readers will go ahead and value bet JJ+ there on the river themselves since it's unlikely I'm going to launch a desperation bluff on the river once I don't bet the turn and there aren't very many worse hands that can value cut themselves vs JJ (but it does look like I have marginal showdown value myself and might get curious). So in summary, mostly vs a good player I'd just check the river but if I didn't want to check I'd make a bet size that is inconsistent with my hand strength to either induce a rebluff that way or an A high call down.

Posted over 3 years ago

jerkY

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Time Link to 00:46:24

hey guys,

what do you do against a 3-bet on the flop with the QJ hand? (edit: minute 46:10) i mean you're obviously not folding, shipping seems kind of overplayed since there hasn't been a lot of c/r-ing and 4-betting going on. on the other hand there's quite a few cards you don't want to see on the turn. what are your thoughts there?

anyways, looking forward to the new real life series, one of the best at dc imo.

so long

Posted over 3 years ago

WiltOnTilt

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that deep i'm not really expecting to get 3bet by overpairs as a standard (or at least not with 100% frequency) so i think calling and playing teh turn is probably best. folding most sizeable bets on hearts and expecting him to check behind w/ a lot of his range. mostly since we were getting out of line w/ checkraises, i'd weight his actions towards bluffs more than value hands.

Posted over 3 years ago

shades

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Nice video guys , great to see the microNL grinder team back , look forward to the new series. That would of been a sick play to induce a bluff with A high on the KKJJx. Personally would of rathered 2 6max tables but its hard to please everyone , thanks guys.

Posted over 3 years ago

spencer1263

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Time Link to 00:25:48

here being 100bb deep would you have bet the turn ??? if so how much ? prolly 1/3 of the pot i guess

Posted over 3 years ago

WiltOnTilt

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here being 100bb deep would you have bet the turn ??? if so how much ? prolly 1/3 of the pot i guess



Even 200bb deep we should have bet smaller here. closer to like 45-55% of pot vs an unaware opponent. We're only trying to get him off underpairs, and we're likely not firing a 3rd street here, so bigger bet is no good.

Posted over 3 years ago

Anonomous1

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Time Link to 00:44:46

In the TJ hand, as played. He check calls the turn, I think the river card is such a good scare care in villain's shoes that I would be betting that. Are you calling if villain river bet, w/ our 2pair? Say 1/2 pot bet? Or like 80% pot bet?

Posted about 2 years ago

WiltOnTilt

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In the TJ hand, as played. He check calls the turn, I think the river card is such a good scare care in villain's shoes that I would be betting that. Are you calling if villain river bet, w/ our 2pair? Say 1/2 pot bet? Or like 80% pot bet?




the problem is what hand does he have to bluff with on that card? He would have to turn J9/KJ into a bluff there, and a lot of people wont do that once they hit the pair. Otherwise he could have up to 16 combos of 98, some # of combos of K9, the flushes, etc... it's quite a big parlay to come up with 25-30% bluff combos when he could have all of those value combos, especially on a card that gives him a pair a lot when it doesn't give him a straight or flush

Posted about 2 years ago

Liquid Cash

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Time Link to 00:14:53

You mention ranges from a game theory perspective. Where do you learn game theory?

Posted over 1 year ago

WiltOnTilt

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You mention ranges from a game theory perspective. Where do you learn game theory?



The book "Mathematics of Poker" talks a lot about this, but it is kind of a tough book to read/digest. You might watch bellatrix math series that helps with this.

I've actually been meaning to watch it myself

Posted over 1 year ago



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