Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by DeathDonkey (Mid Stakes)

I think deathdonkey gets the record for saying "like" the most times in a single video

I was wondering what happened with stars flipping over the cards when you're all in? It was there for about 3 weeks? Then it's gone now.

I was wondering what happened with stars flipping over the cards when you're all in? It was there for about 3 weeks? Then it's gone now.

Yah me too - I actually played 1/2 for another video and it turned them over, not sure which games have this feature, anyone know what the deal is with that?

Yah me too - I actually played 1/2 for another video and it turned them over, not sure which games have this feature, anyone know what the deal is with that?

The way it works, every player has an option they can check to flip or not. If everyone all in has the option selected, they flip, otherwise it waits til the river showdown.

Yeah, they made it your default to show, but you can opt out. If one person in the all-in pot has opted out of showing, no one shows.

"We can use that feedback loop to come to some kind of conclusion" - Chris

Programmer alert!

you should have made more of an effort to emphasise just how much of a maniac you were playing. TBH i think it really distorts how people play vs you and in this case the game you played wasnt really near typical 2/4 game in a large part.
For a standard random player (trying to play a winning solid style) would you recommend calling the 99's 4bet with hands like KQ and J10 oop really? surely ur particular image added a lot to making up the balance in that decision vs. making a nicely sized 5bet which can accomodate a better range.

the clown comment was more playfull, ur avatar/2m2mm w.e. <3 u krantz

desperadogm

good stuff in here thanks guys

wheres the call with king high krantz on river???

wheres the call with king high krantz on river???

happened before the vid! i wanted to see what he (you?) had. :-)

you should have made more of an effort to emphasise just how much of a maniac you were playing. TBH i think it really distorts how people play vs you and in this case the game you played wasnt really near typical 2/4 game in a large part.
For a standard random player (trying to play a winning solid style) would you recommend calling the 99's 4bet with hands like KQ and J10 oop really? surely ur particular image added a lot to making up the balance in that decision vs. making a nicely sized 5bet which can accomodate a better range.

the clown comment was more playfull, ur avatar/2m2mm w.e. <3 u krantz

desperadogm

I would be calling with suited broadways sometimes (a previous video I did where I called with JTss vs a late position 3b has some good discussion about how to play OOP in those spots).

I hate 5-betting in general unless there's some serious leveling going on OR I can make very strong assumptions that my opponent is 4-bet bluffing far too often OR 4-betting for value far too wide.

And yah, you are right, I should have taken more time to explain just how crazy I was playing pre-video (and shown some hands for sure). :-/

Time Link to 00:24:57

What's your minimum pocket pair for 4-bet calling it off there?

What's your minimum pocket pair for 4-bet calling it off there?

99 usually. Nothing wrong with just folding a low pocket pair if the BTN is getting saucy.

What do you think of my stack off with desperado at 33:46. I have extensive hands and notes on him, his 4bet range from that early position is more likely to be polarized. He's calling 66-tt, his raising range/f3b from early is wide enough for me to be 3betting with almost anything and be profitable. He hasn't seen me 5bet all in my low pockets pf. With that said, he's def never folding jj-aa/ak and it's prob a toss up for him to be calling/4betting with aq for value. He 4bets at 23% or so and I just figured his 4bet range from his position, given my reads are bluffs and jj-aa + big aces. If i was facing a late position open/4bet from this same opponent I'd be folding 44, b/c i know he 4bets 77+ for value in late position blind battles.

On a separate note: teddybear3bets
I was aware that my 3bets would be viewed more tilted towards the value range b/c of the shorty to my left. There were a couple of spots for me to pick up some money pf given that i knew who you were and you probably didn't know i was a dc member and one of Dan's students (i'd prob get a lot less credit and would level myself if i said "hiiii krantz, am i on video" from the beginning). I had 55 when you had 88, and i said to myself i'm folding if you 4bet, and calling the short stack. When you called I figured you had a decent hand and I was sorta tentative about cbetting the TJx flop, but I figured I can rep aq/ak at the very least and you're still probably folding 99 and jamming better, w/o a specific read on me. If you had kq in the same spot would you just jam that flop? I think aq/ak would call in the same situation (if i had aq/ak)

What do you think of my stack off with desperado at 33:46.)

Watch this short video, and leave a time link!

That will be much easier for the coaches to find the hand and answer your questions, thanks.

greath watch. thx to both Krantz and Deathdoney. I wish it was a bit lower stakes, but oh well. I was so ***king rooting for 53s to win the last one

I would be calling with suited broadways sometimes (a previous video I did where I called with JTss vs a late position 3b has some good discussion about how to play OOP in those spots).

Could someone please direct me to the video mentioned in the above quote? Thanks in advance!

Time Link to 00:31:54

What do you think of this? (thx joe for the headsup on timestamp link) I have extensive hands and notes on him, his 4bet range from that early position is more likely to be polarized. He's calling 66-tt, his raising range/f3b from early is wide enough for me to be 3betting with almost anything and be profitable. He hasn't seen me 5bet all in my low pockets pf. With that said, he's def never folding jj-aa/ak and it's prob a toss up for him to be calling/4betting with aq for value. He 4bets at 23% or so and I just figured his 4bet range from his position, given my reads are bluffs and jj-aa + big aces. If i was facing a late position open/4bet from this same opponent I'd be folding 44, b/c i know he 4bets 77+ for value in late position blind battles.

On a separate note: teddybear3bets
I was aware that my 3bets would be viewed more tilted towards the value range b/c of the shorty to my left. There were a couple of spots for me to pick up some money pf given that i knew who you were and you probably didn't know i was a dc member and one of Dan's students (i'd prob get a lot less credit and would level myself if i said "hiiii krantz, am i on video" from the beginning). I had 55 when you had 88, and i said to myself i'm folding if you 4bet, and calling the short stack. When you called I figured you had a decent hand and I was sorta tentative about cbetting the TJx flop, but I figured I can rep aq/ak at the very least and you're still probably folding 99 and jamming better, w/o a specific read on me. If you had kq in the same spot would you just jam that flop? I think aq/ak would call in the same situation (if i had aq/ak)

Time Link to 00:25:47

Hey Krantz, nice video.

In the 88 hand on the left, I'm the SB in this hand. I had KK without a heart. I'm never really sure about my bet sizing in these spots. My standard on most boards would be to just bet something like half pot on 3 streets, but this board is quite drawy. So when the turn came, I just decided to bet a committing amount. If the turn would have been a total blank, I would have bet smaller. Would it be better to just bet bigger on the flop to size up a turn shove on this board or would you still go for 3 streets?

Thanks

Hey Krantz, nice video.

In the 88 hand on the left, I'm the SB in this hand. I had KK without a heart. I'm never really sure about my bet sizing in these spots. My standard on most boards would be to just bet something like half pot on 3 streets, but this board is quite drawy. So when the turn came, I just decided to bet a committing amount. If the turn would have been a total blank, I would have bet smaller. Would it be better to just bet bigger on the flop to size up a turn shove on this board or would you still go for 3 streets?

Thanks

When i saw your bet sizing on the turn I immediately thought you had overpair w/o heart. That information should've let krantz have an easier decision to make with 88. Part of the reason he's folding 88 1heart is b/c he's not sure if you're betting the turn with kk+1h, aa+1h (the top of your range) or ak 1h, or no hearts at all. So if 88h calls this turn, he'd have to fold the river to a shove on any bluff/value shove, he can't tell which it'd be so it was better to fold the turn. That turn bet sizing tells decent hand readers exactly what you have. Which makes it easy for them to play perfect against your hand.

When i saw your bet sizing on the turn I immediately thought you had overpair w/o heart. That information should've let krantz have an easier decision to make with 88. Part of the reason he's folding 88 1heart is b/c he's not sure if you're betting the turn with kk+1h, aa+1h (the top of your range) or ak 1h, or no hearts at all. So if 88h calls this turn, he'd have to fold the river to a shove on any bluff/value shove, he can't tell which it'd be so it was better to fold the turn. That turn bet sizing tells decent hand readers exactly what you have. Which makes it easy for them to play perfect against your hand.

Good post.

What do you think of this? (thx joe for the headsup on timestamp link) I have extensive hands and notes on him, his 4bet range from that early position is more likely to be polarized. He's calling 66-tt, his raising range/f3b from early is wide enough for me to be 3betting with almost anything and be profitable. He hasn't seen me 5bet all in my low pockets pf. With that said, he's def never folding jj-aa/ak and it's prob a toss up for him to be calling/4betting with aq for value. He 4bets at 23% or so and I just figured his 4bet range from his position, given my reads are bluffs and jj-aa + big aces. If i was facing a late position open/4bet from this same opponent I'd be folding 44, b/c i know he 4bets 77+ for value in late position blind battles.

On a separate note: teddybear3bets
I was aware that my 3bets would be viewed more tilted towards the value range b/c of the shorty to my left. There were a couple of spots for me to pick up some money pf given that i knew who you were and you probably didn't know i was a dc member and one of Dan's students (i'd prob get a lot less credit and would level myself if i said "hiiii krantz, am i on video" from the beginning). I had 55 when you had 88, and i said to myself i'm folding if you 4bet, and calling the short stack. When you called I figured you had a decent hand and I was sorta tentative about cbetting the TJx flop, but I figured I can rep aq/ak at the very least and you're still probably folding 99 and jamming better, w/o a specific read on me. If you had kq in the same spot would you just jam that flop? I think aq/ak would call in the same situation (if i had aq/ak)

I mean it's hard to dispute that analysis... I just don't think I would have posted it where he might see it :-)

When i saw your bet sizing on the turn I immediately thought you had overpair w/o heart. That information should've let krantz have an easier decision to make with 88. Part of the reason he's folding 88 1heart is b/c he's not sure if you're betting the turn with kk+1h, aa+1h (the top of your range) or ak 1h, or no hearts at all. So if 88h calls this turn, he'd have to fold the river to a shove on any bluff/value shove, he can't tell which it'd be so it was better to fold the turn. That turn bet sizing tells decent hand readers exactly what you have. Which makes it easy for them to play perfect against your hand.

Good post.

um how can a decent hand reader tell what u have if u can infact have AK with one heart. if i had a bluffing/semi bluffing range on the turn i certainly wouldnt be making a smallish bet nor would i be betting small with top set. I think betting a non commiting amount sucks even with total air.
I see no problem with the bet sizing and think the impression has been given through the last few posts that heros bet is actually questionable but no better alternative offered.

nemeelucas wrt the 44 hand. If you reasoned that i was capable of 4betting enough of a polarised range that jamming 44 would be profitable then this sentence 'his raising range/f3b from early is wide enough for me to be 3betting with almost anything and be profitable' cannot be correct. Also I kinda doubt anyone except the most maniacal fish and super nits have 4B% of 23, idk maybe ur sample is bad here or something. FWIW I think 4betting my utg/utg+1 opens with 44 can be profitable at times if it is as a bluff.

big fan of the avatar dog/bear = )

when you play crazy before the video and then change gears, it doesn't really help us (or least me). i don't have your image, and even if i played as crazy as you did pre-video, people wouldn't adjust to me the way they to you.

truthfully, i'd like to see a krantz video on an obscure site where people don't know it's you. that would help alot more.

jay, really enjoyed this video and liked your commentary. both you and some of the guys in the video posting here have alluded to your style shift that occurred mid-session but off-video. a lot of guys beating ssnl (and msnl, too) who are looking to advance are not great dealing with or creating changes in game flow. i think a video focusing on how you execute and anticipate this would be very, very good.

jay, really enjoyed this video and liked your commentary. both you and some of the guys in the video posting here have alluded to your style shift that occurred mid-session but off-video. a lot of guys beating ssnl (and msnl, too) who are looking to advance are not great dealing with or creating changes in game flow. i think a video focusing on how you execute and anticipate this would be very, very good.

+1

also, more boobies

I mean it's hard to dispute that analysis... I just don't think I would have posted it where he might see it :-)

ya is he a member? Then i hope he sees this too.

Poker Stars $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 355568
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): $1048.00
BB: $402.00
UTG: $400.00
MP: $480.00
CO: $606.00
BTN: $1254.90

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is SB with 9 K
2 folds, CO raises to $12, BTN calls $12, Hero calls $10, BB calls $8

Flop: ($48.00) 2 6 J (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $36, CO folds, BTN calls $36, Hero raises to $144, BB folds, BTN calls $108

Turn: ($372.00) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $180, Hero calls $180

River: ($732.00) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $500, Hero raises to $712 all in, BTN calls $212

Final Pot: $2156.00
Hero shows 9 K (a flush, Ace high)
BTN mucks 7 5
Hero wins $2153.00
(Rake: $3.00)

Kind of a cooler but I like how I got the stacks in.

ya is he a member? Then i hope he sees this too.

Poker Stars $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 355568
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): $1048.00
BB: $402.00
UTG: $400.00
MP: $480.00
CO: $606.00
BTN: $1254.90

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is SB with 9 K
2 folds, CO raises to $12, BTN calls $12, Hero calls $10, BB calls $8

Flop: ($48.00) 2 6 J (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $36, CO folds, BTN calls $36, Hero raises to $144, BB folds, BTN calls $108

Turn: ($372.00) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $180, Hero calls $180

River: ($732.00) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $500, Hero raises to $712 all in, BTN calls $212

Final Pot: $2156.00
Hero shows 9 K (a flush, Ace high)
BTN mucks 7 5
Hero wins $2153.00
(Rake: $3.00)

Kind of a cooler but I like how I got the stacks in.

im hero, he's btn

um how can a decent hand reader tell what u have if u can infact have AK with one heart. if i had a bluffing/semi bluffing range on the turn i certainly wouldnt be making a smallish bet nor would i be betting small with top set. I think betting a non commiting amount sucks even with total air.
I see no problem with the bet sizing and think the impression has been given through the last few posts that heros bet is actually questionable but no better alternative offered.

nemeelucas wrt the 44 hand. If you reasoned that i was capable of 4betting enough of a polarised range that jamming 44 would be profitable then this sentence 'his raising range/f3b from early is wide enough for me to be 3betting with almost anything and be profitable' cannot be correct. Also I kinda doubt anyone except the most maniacal fish and super nits have 4B% of 23, idk maybe ur sample is bad here or something. FWIW I think 4betting my utg/utg+1 opens with 44 can be profitable at times if it is as a bluff.

big fan of the avatar dog/bear = )

hehe, i hope we get to play a bit diff next time we see each other then.

well imo, it's still correct b/c it means i'm stacking off with value hands to your 4bets, and just simply folding the rest.

"um how can a decent hand reader tell what u have if u can infact have AK with one heart. if i had a bluffing/semi bluffing range on the turn i certainly wouldnt be making a smallish bet nor would i be betting small with top set. I think betting a non commiting amount sucks even with total air.
I see no problem with the bet sizing and think the impression has been given through the last few posts that heros bet is actually questionable but no better alternative offered"

This works for you a lot better than it does for spewkid, I can see you betting the same on ak+1h boards here, i don't see him doing it (although i think to you ak+1h or aa+1h here is pretty much the same to you) I think you're stacking off with that hand on this board in a 3bet pot no matter what, you'd just like to have aa+1h more, but you won't hate having ak+1h here. Maybe that's the difference.

I think people haven't offered a better alternative b/c it depends on hero's images + opp perception of his image in a 3bet 3 barrel pot vs the likely range of hands he has in a 3bet 2 barrel all in by the turn pot.

hehe, i hope we get to play a bit diff next time we see each other then.

well imo, it's still correct b/c it means i'm stacking off with value hands to your 4bets, and just simply folding the rest.

"um how can a decent hand reader tell what u have if u can infact have AK with one heart. if i had a bluffing/semi bluffing range on the turn i certainly wouldnt be making a smallish bet nor would i be betting small with top set. I think betting a non commiting amount sucks even with total air.
I see no problem with the bet sizing and think the impression has been given through the last few posts that heros bet is actually questionable but no better alternative offered"

This works for you a lot better than it does for spewkid, I can see you betting the same on ak+1h boards here, i don't see him doing it (although i think to you ak+1h or aa+1h here is pretty much the same to you) I think you're stacking off with that hand on this board in a 3bet pot no matter what, you'd just like to have aa+1h more, but you won't hate having ak+1h here. Maybe that's the difference.

I think people haven't offered a better alternative b/c it depends on hero's images + opp perception of his image in a 3bet 3 barrel pot vs the likely range of hands he has in a 3bet 2 barrel all in by the turn pot.

Oh, and it's a bear, he told me he's offended you called him a dog =(

when you play crazy before the video and then change gears, it doesn't really help us (or least me). i don't have your image, and even if i played as crazy as you did pre-video, people wouldn't adjust to me the way they to you.

truthfully, i'd like to see a krantz video on an obscure site where people don't know it's you. that would help alot more.

I was pretty much on his tables since he sat down, he wasn't that crazy early, just taking down pots in good spots. His plays were credible early, and then he just started having hands mid session. Way to run good, esp 35 v aq. The guy you beat is bad, and now mid stakes is going to have a harder time seeing that 500$.

Very nice video guys. I think this one of the best videos you have ever made at these stakes Jay. I can't speak for the rest of the crowd but I think the instructional value goes way up when you "play normal."

I think the AA hand was very interesting and the the discussion that DD forced out was great. I do think there is something to be learned on the side of your opponent and I disagree that this is somewhere between "a slightly misplayed hand and a cooler." He basically allowed himself to fall victim to the classic way that tough LAGs exploit their opponents i. e. attack lots of small pots but have the goods when all the monies get shipped.

I think the preflop is not great but whatever since Jay has been active. The flop is where the problem lies. The check minraise is so super strong and I really wonder if when Jay says "I can have anything," he really means it. It just strikes me as a pretty big stretch that a decent player will flat a 4 bet and CR off 1/2 his 200 BB stack with a hand that has no equity when called or jammed on. I think the flop raise size is pretty interesting but even in the best case scenario for us Jay has a FD/2 overs and our 99 hand is flipping. He is a huge dog against Jays actual range which will be full of monsters to offset the very rare bluffs and the coin flips. I really don't think I am being results oriented but if I was the guy with 99 here I would for sure be thinking way more about this than a "slightly misplayed hand."

The check minraise is so super strong and I really wonder if when Jay says "I can have anything," he really means it. It just strikes me as a pretty big stretch that a decent player will flat a 4 bet and CR off 1/2 his 200 BB stack with a hand that has no equity when called or jammed on.

hmm, you know what? i don't know if i can dispute this. v good point.

hmm, you know what? i don't know if i can dispute this. v good point.

surfdoc > krantz obv

more 6max low/midstakes vids plz Jay! oh, and also a little bit less crazy image plz haha

I was pretty much on his tables since he sat down, he wasn't that crazy early, just taking down pots in good spots. His plays were credible early, and then he just started having hands mid session. Way to run good, esp 35 v aq. The guy you beat is bad, and now mid stakes is going to have a harder time seeing that 500$.

he 4bet jammed 23hh into my fist 3bet and ran into my JJ. He also made a v light calldown with king high vs me which didnt make any sense i can see. I have the 'show cards when all in' thing turned off so i guess only some people saw these pots. (btw, turning on showing cards is surely -ev in general?)

Very nice video guys. I think this one of the best videos you have ever made at these stakes Jay. I can't speak for the rest of the crowd but I think the instructional value goes way up when you "play normal."

I think the AA hand was very interesting and the the discussion that DD forced out was great. I do think there is something to be learned on the side of your opponent and I disagree that this is somewhere between "a slightly misplayed hand and a cooler." He basically allowed himself to fall victim to the classic way that tough LAGs exploit their opponents i. e. attack lots of small pots but have the goods when all the monies get shipped.

I think the preflop is not great but whatever since Jay has been active. The flop is where the problem lies. The check minraise is so super strong and I really wonder if when Jay says "I can have anything," he really means it. It just strikes me as a pretty big stretch that a decent player will flat a 4 bet and CR off 1/2 his 200 BB stack with a hand that has no equity when called or jammed on. I think the flop raise size is pretty interesting but even in the best case scenario for us Jay has a FD/2 overs and our 99 hand is flipping. He is a huge dog against Jays actual range which will be full of monsters to offset the very rare bluffs and the coin flips. I really don't think I am being results oriented but if I was the guy with 99 here I would for sure be thinking way more about this than a "slightly misplayed hand."

I hate the guys 4-bet preflop. In fact I can't think of a single hand I would hate 4-betting there more than 99. As played he bet/call is close but I agree with Surf as far as you can't really ever be pure bluffing with that flop check raise unless you are just completely retarded--which you are not.

(btw, turning on showing cards is surely -ev in general?)

I agree with this statement. I also think that nowadays with all those data-mining sites on the net I don't wish to disclose any more information about my hands to observers then I have to.

Very nice video guys. I think this one of the best videos you have ever made at these stakes Jay. I can't speak for the rest of the crowd but I think the instructional value goes way up when you "play normal."

I think the AA hand was very interesting and the the discussion that DD forced out was great. I do think there is something to be learned on the side of your opponent and I disagree that this is somewhere between "a slightly misplayed hand and a cooler." He basically allowed himself to fall victim to the classic way that tough LAGs exploit their opponents i. e. attack lots of small pots but have the goods when all the monies get shipped.

I think the preflop is not great but whatever since Jay has been active. The flop is where the problem lies. The check minraise is so super strong and I really wonder if when Jay says "I can have anything," he really means it. It just strikes me as a pretty big stretch that a decent player will flat a 4 bet and CR off 1/2 his 200 BB stack with a hand that has no equity when called or jammed on. I think the flop raise size is pretty interesting but even in the best case scenario for us Jay has a FD/2 overs and our 99 hand is flipping. He is a huge dog against Jays actual range which will be full of monsters to offset the very rare bluffs and the coin flips. I really don't think I am being results oriented but if I was the guy with 99 here I would for sure be thinking way more about this than a "slightly misplayed hand."

agreed with this analysis, but in jay's defense, it's a lot harder to come up with such a complete analysis like this during live play. although, I feel that the villain here played his hand REALLY badly especially deep.

I guess I missed Jay 4b all in with 23h early on. Imo though, I think most good thinking players like to error on the aggressive side when they first arrive at a table. Basically, why should they adjust for their image before you show that you have made adjustments? I think this is advantageous for jay b/c he'll just get to SD anyway and start making adjustments quicker than his opponents and overall cash in on their mistakes. I think that's a point that needs to be clarified though, and Jay shouldn't start mimicking regulars at 2/4 just b/c he's making a video at 2/4. I guess 4betting 23h aside, i didn't see anything wrong with the spots he took down what seemed to be free money.

agreed with this analysis, but in jay's defense, it's a lot harder to come up with such a complete analysis like this during live play. although, I feel that the villain here played his hand REALLY badly especially deep.

I guess I missed Jay 4b all in with 23h early on. Imo though, I think most good thinking players like to error on the aggressive side when they first arrive at a table. Basically, why should they adjust for their image before you show that you have made adjustments? I think this is advantageous for jay b/c he'll just get to SD anyway and start making adjustments quicker than his opponents and overall cash in on their mistakes. I think that's a point that needs to be clarified though, and Jay shouldn't start mimicking regulars at 2/4 just b/c he's making a video at 2/4. I guess 4betting 23h aside, i didn't see anything wrong with the spots he took down what seemed to be free money.

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given that those hands show jays play half an hour earlier than the 99 hand it is kind of o.t.t. for people to be saying the guys 99 was played the worst way possible blah blah.
I think a few people at the table noticed that krantz had started to tighten up a bit and i know a few of us were guessing that the video had been started at that point... but if i'd picked up 99 in that spot 30mins earlier i would have def considdered 5betting it for str8 value and calling off.
I agree that Jay playing unlike every solid 2/4 reg is a good thing for the video and his critiques of them is probably what a lot of people and definately I want to see.

nemec - i cant/too lazy to figure out how to pm on here. ged2001 at hot mail dotcom =D

Where can I get this PS - theme? I like the colors!

jay, really enjoyed this video and liked your commentary. both you and some of the guys in the video posting here have alluded to your style shift that occurred mid-session but off-video. a lot of guys beating ssnl (and msnl, too) who are looking to advance are not great dealing with or creating changes in game flow. i think a video focusing on how you execute and anticipate this would be very, very good.

+1

also, more boobies

are there any HUNL vids dealing specifically with game flow ?

+1 for boobies

are there any HUNL vids dealing specifically with game flow ?

+1 for boobies

in pr1nnyraiding 2 there are two videos that attempt to visualize game flow