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Mentor: Jk3a (#6) - From Import to Analyze

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Mentor: Jk3a (#6) - From Import to Analyze by jk3a

Jk3a talks about going from Import to Analyze. He breaks down how to use hold'em manager to review your game by going through the process with his student.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 49 minutes long
  • Posted over 2 years ago

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Comments for Mentor: Jk3a (#6) - From Import to Analyze

jonk

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"Fromt Inport" ? What's with the title? Smile

Posted over 2 years ago

glendobbs

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nice! really looking forward to watching this one. One thing i don't do enough is analyse my hands

Posted over 2 years ago

cloudcap

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Forgive my stupid question: How do I add the pot odds stuff to my HUD display? Can't seem to find it.

Posted over 2 years ago

z324739

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EV $ difference was a new trick for me, very educational...

Posted over 2 years ago

Misterjokerboy

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This is something I've never really done before, but looking to do going forward so nice timing for the video. downloading now, thanks for making it

Posted over 2 years ago

jk3a

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Forgive my stupid question: How do I add the pot odds stuff to my HUD display? Can't seem to find it.




you talking about the upper left hand corner stats in the replayer window? I believe they display automatically? I use version 1.09 beta 23a fwiw.

Posted over 2 years ago

xerocat

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I'm convinced jk3a's voice is a natural tilt remedy.

Posted over 2 years ago

z324739

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Forgive my stupid question: How do I add the pot odds stuff to my HUD display? Can't seem to find it.




Live tracking. Try HUD options - site options. Choose ur site and make sure U have crossed track live hands.

Hope this helps.

Posted over 2 years ago

poon8855

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Maybe this belongs in the holdem manger forums, but I dont have the EV difference column in my hands section. Anyone know how to add?

edit: nevermind its under option->hand view column selection

Posted over 2 years ago

lirarmange

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Forgive my stupid question: How do I add the pot odds stuff to my HUD display? Can't seem to find it.



HUD Options -> Player preferences
choose you configuration at the top
Tab "Appearance"
then you have something called "number of pots" set it to 1,2 or 3.

Posted over 2 years ago

Ulkis

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I really liked the actual hands discussed, the theme being "don't pay off".

Posted over 2 years ago

Perdix

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Time Link to 00:33:02

Is this really such a clear and easy fold? I would discount flushes for villain because of his turn check, and because hero checked behind on the turn he too is unlikely to have a flush. Therefore villain could value bet sets or even overpairs on the river, couldn't he? He'd probably bet smaller with those hands though...

Posted over 2 years ago

jk3a

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Is this really such a clear and easy fold? I would discount flushes for villain because of his turn check, and because hero checked behind on the turn he too is unlikely to have a flush. Therefore villain could value bet sets or even overpairs on the river, couldn't he? He'd probably bet smaller with those hands though...



do think it's a fold because of the villain's bet size

Posted over 2 years ago

Perdix

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Time Link to 00:36:57

I agree that villain is defending with every combo of JT, but he definitely should fold naked gutshots to our cbet at least some of the time, shouldn't he? While watching this hand I thought that villain reps very little with his turn raise. 2 pair hands 3bet pre most of the time, JhTh usually raises the flop. That leaves us with a set of 5s and a (stubborn imo) JT.

But I'm just rambling here, wouldn't have changed the results anyway ;-)

Posted over 2 years ago

rodan_lewarx

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Hmm really like some HEM features. Will try the trial version and see if it can replace PT3.

Posted over 2 years ago

bachis

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Time Link to 00:37:45

If we would have called with the AK and the river was a brick are we folding?

Posted over 2 years ago

jk3a

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I agree that villain is defending with every combo of JT, but he definitely should fold naked gutshots to our cbet at least some of the time, shouldn't he? While watching this hand I thought that villain reps very little with his turn raise. 2 pair hands 3bet pre most of the time, JhTh usually raises the flop. That leaves us with a set of 5s and a (stubborn imo) JT.

But I'm just rambling here, wouldn't have changed the results anyway ;-)




def don't expect most to fold JT there

Posted over 2 years ago

jk3a

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If we would have called with the AK and the river was a brick are we folding?



it def could be a fold, most people wouldn't, not sure if I could in game

Posted over 2 years ago

shades

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Really enjoyed this video guys , it wasnt what i was hoping but was still awesome.

If i ask maybe Jk3a you might think of doing this sometime. Theres kind of 2 parts to this , first is the review of our own stats and game using HEM , you briefly covered most of the basics in this video but i was hoping for something a bit more in depth.
The other , which im trying to figure out, is how do i find leaks in my villians games by using HEM. Rather than just looking at the general player tab and the leak section. Im guessing there are a group of common leaks most players have and id like to know how to filter for these leaks which would allow me to take note on the player and be able to make confident moves on him at the tables because ive seen through hands that this is how he plays.
A assume this is something i higher stake players do on a regular occassion.

Posted over 2 years ago

jk3a

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Really enjoyed this video guys , it wasnt what i was hoping but was still awesome.

If i ask maybe Jk3a you might think of doing this sometime. Theres kind of 2 parts to this , first is the review of our own stats and game using HEM , you briefly covered most of the basics in this video but i was hoping for something a bit more in depth.
The other , which im trying to figure out, is how do i find leaks in my villians games by using HEM. Rather than just looking at the general player tab and the leak section. Im guessing there are a group of common leaks most players have and id like to know how to filter for these leaks which would allow me to take note on the player and be able to make confident moves on him at the tables because ive seen through hands that this is how he plays.
A assume this is something i higher stake players do on a regular occassion.




I would start by thinking about areas of your game where you might be/are exploitable and see if you can identify similar stats in other players.

Def a good idea for a vid.

Posted over 2 years ago

KennyCupp13

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Time Link to 00:06:58

The stats that you're listing at this point - are these strictly applicable to 6 max? Or do they apply for full ring as well?

Posted over 2 years ago

jk3a

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The stats that you're listing at this point - are these strictly applicable to 6 max? Or do they apply for full ring as well?



What do you mean applicable? "Standard" numbers for full ring would be different for some of those stats. Did you have any questions about a specific stat or group of stats?

Posted over 2 years ago

KennyCupp13

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What do you mean applicable? "Standard" numbers for full ring would be different for some of those stats. Did you have any questions about a specific stat or group of stats?



Won $ w/o showdown would definitely be something that I'm interested in seeing what would be standard for full ring.

One other question about application of numbers on HEM: On "Cash Games" tab, "Reports" sub tab, it shows "$" and "$ EV adjusted". So, for example, if you have "$1000.00" in your "$" table, and $750.00 in your "$ EV adjusted" table....does that mean you are running above expectation for the hands that went to showdown - i.e. - "running good"? Just want to make sure I'm understanding and evaluating the data correctly.

Posted over 2 years ago

jk3a

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Won $ w/o showdown would definitely be something that I'm interested in seeing what would be standard for full ring.

One other question about application of numbers on HEM: On "Cash Games" tab, "Reports" sub tab, it shows "$" and "$ EV adjusted". So, for example, if you have "$1000.00" in your "$" table, and $750.00 in your "$ EV adjusted" table....does that mean you are running above expectation for the hands that went to showdown - i.e. - "running good"? Just want to make sure I'm understanding and evaluating the data correctly.



As far as W$woSD goes, the closer you can get that to 0 the better. And yes, you are understanding the EV thing correctly.

Posted over 2 years ago

8ch20

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Jk3a

Great Video. I look forward to more like this. I found your coaching style/approach
really helpful.

I am a part timer and I have been studying DC videos (sthief,wiltontilt,tubasteve) all summer. Probably more than I’ve played. Now I am gonna check all yours out.

I recently got HEM on my mac….Knowledge is POWER. Its very exciting and I cant believe I waited so long to get it.

I have a lot of questions but here’s four.

Do you have any thoughts on the 8 articles written for Holdem manager?
Do any of them stand out as really helpful or maybe even dated.
It seems from what little I know that the game is always changing and lower stakes and even microstates may play differently.

Do you have any thoughts on Leak Busters in Holdem manager.
I found Stheifs thoughts on preflop ranges and strategy to be very helpful.
And I saw some complaints about Leak Busters being too simplistic.

I am not really sure how to usefully use the EV filter/graph. If your running better than the ev line are you just running good(lucky good) or out playing people when you have a worse hand or vice versa. How do the EV filters relate to GBucks?

What stats for ones game play HUD are best for micro stakes?
The default is vpip,pfr,steal,3bet%,cbet, fold to cbet, aggro factor, #of hands.
But at the micro stakes there must be some other stats that are specifically good in targeting nits, tags, 4,8,12+multitablers, lags, short stackers, maniacs and part timers.

I really enjoyed your video. I hope you make a lot more of these analysis videos.
Thanks

Posted over 2 years ago

Icehockeyplyr

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Jk3a,

Thanks for the video. I'm a micro stakes player (wanna be grinder). I love the more analytical type videos, like videos done via the hand replayer, pre recorded then reviewed and anything done using HEM, rather than live play video. Very well done and packed with great information to help us new players learn more about our game.

Posted over 2 years ago

8ch20

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If your running better than your adjusted EV thats good. correct?
If your running better than your EV bb/100 thats good as well, correct?
If your Allin EV is 50.4% does that mean you are pushing a lot of coin flips or does this stat need to be coupled with other filters and only good for reviewing specific spots vs specific players. I assume the Allin EV graph doesn't mean that much other than how well you are running unless you filter for specific spots etc.

Sorry for all the questions in my first post. Really enjoyed this video.

Posted over 2 years ago

jk3a

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Jk3a

Great Video. I look forward to more like this. I found your coaching style/approach
really helpful.

I am a part timer and I have been studying DC videos (sthief,wiltontilt,tubasteve) all summer. Probably more than I’ve played. Now I am gonna check all yours out.

I recently got HEM on my mac….Knowledge is POWER. Its very exciting and I cant believe I waited so long to get it.

I have a lot of questions but here’s four.

Do you have any thoughts on the 8 articles written for Holdem manager?
Do any of them stand out as really helpful or maybe even dated.
It seems from what little I know that the game is always changing and lower stakes and even microstates may play differently.

Do you have any thoughts on Leak Busters in Holdem manager.
I found Stheifs thoughts on preflop ranges and strategy to be very helpful.
And I saw some complaints about Leak Busters being too simplistic.

I am not really sure how to usefully use the EV filter/graph. If your running better than the ev line are you just running good(lucky good) or out playing people when you have a worse hand or vice versa. How do the EV filters relate to GBucks?

What stats for ones game play HUD are best for micro stakes?
The default is vpip,pfr,steal,3bet%,cbet, fold to cbet, aggro factor, #of hands.
But at the micro stakes there must be some other stats that are specifically good in targeting nits, tags, 4,8,12+multitablers, lags, short stackers, maniacs and part timers.

I really enjoyed your video. I hope you make a lot more of these analysis videos.
Thanks



I'm sorry I won't be able to answer all your questions as I'm not a HEM expert, but I'll do my best to answer the ones I "know." I've never read the articles nor am familiar with the leak busters.

The EV thing simply shows how well you've done when all the money goes in with cards left to come. For example, you get all in preflop with 100bb stacks at 50nl. If you have exactly 50% equity, then when you win the pot, you've run 50%(100) = $50 above equity in that hand.

On my 6max hud I use vpip/pfr/3bet/f3b/cb/fcb/2b/f2b/steal/c/r flop.

Glad you enjoyed vid thanks for compliments.

Posted over 2 years ago

jk3a

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If your running better than your adjusted EV thats good. correct?
If your running better than your EV bb/100 thats good as well, correct?
If your Allin EV is 50.4% does that mean you are pushing a lot of coin flips or does this stat need to be coupled with other filters and only good for reviewing specific spots vs specific players. I assume the Allin EV graph doesn't mean that much other than how well you are running unless you filter for specific spots etc.

Sorry for all the questions in my first post. Really enjoyed this video.



yes, yes, and I'm not sure what 50.4% means.

Posted over 2 years ago

omgitsfreeyo

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On my 6max hud I use vpip/pfr/3bet/f3b/cb/fcb/2b/f2b/steal/c/r flop.



What is 2b/fold2b?

Posted over 2 years ago

Crackmonkey

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What is 2b/fold2b?



Turn barrel and fold to turn barrel.

Posted over 2 years ago

adrian.alex

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WTSD is not an important stat to have it on your HUD? Or cbet flop cbet turn?

Posted over 2 years ago

jk3a

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WTSD is not an important stat to have it on your HUD? Or cbet flop cbet turn?




wtsd is a good stat, i don't use it much, but nothing wrong with it. the other two are in my hud

Posted over 2 years ago

PrinzVonHapunkt

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Time Link to 00:38:34

Is 99 really a good hand to ship over his 4bet?
Imo some broadway Ace would be better, because you do better against his calling range of the shove.
Because if you think he will be playing back, he will probably call your shove with every PP higher than 99 and some broadways, against which you are flipping and he could aswell be 4bet/folding some air too, but against that you do well anyway - so aren't you wasting the Equity of 99 by shoving it or do you think there will be enough dead money from his air so that we can profitably do this.

Posted about 1 year ago

PrinzVonHapunkt

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Time Link to 00:39:30

do you think against a thinking player this play is still good, because our hand is a little obvious and he might call us off with broadways > KQ -> we lose some big fold equity.

Or are broadways like that already in the range you think he will call our shove with and he squeezes a lot of air that we fold out, so that we don't need the fold equity of those "folded flips".

Posted about 1 year ago

PrinzVonHapunkt

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Time Link to 00:45:26

i think a good question is here: would you bet 3 barrels with a 4 of hears on the turn aswell, because trips or Tpwk is kinda the same hand here don't you think (except that we have better equity against a FD), because there are almost no hands between those in our opponents calling range for 3 streets, because i think the 3rd barrel is only going to be called by higher Kings and maybe 9T sometimes.

Posted about 1 year ago

jk3a

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Is 99 really a good hand to ship over his 4bet?
Imo some broadway Ace would be better, because you do better against his calling range of the shove.
Because if you think he will be playing back, he will probably call your shove with every PP higher than 99 and some broadways, against which you are flipping and he could aswell be 4bet/folding some air too, but against that you do well anyway - so aren't you wasting the Equity of 99 by shoving it or do you think there will be enough dead money from his air so that we can profitably do this.



equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 27.262% 25.81% 01.45% 339398232 19111416.00 { ATs, ATo }
Hand 1: 72.738% 71.28% 01.45% 937428408 19111416.00 { TT+, AQs+, AQo+ }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 37.260% 37.06% 00.20% 236051700 1286694.00 { 99 }
Hand 1: 62.740% 62.54% 00.20% 398352000 1286694.00 { TT+, AQs+, AQo+ }

Posted about 1 year ago

jk3a

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do you think against a thinking player this play is still good, because our hand is a little obvious and he might call us off with broadways > KQ -> we lose some big fold equity.

Or are broadways like that already in the range you think he will call our shove with and he squeezes a lot of air that we fold out, so that we don't need the fold equity of those "folded flips".



some players will def call with KQ type hands but I think even when those guys do call we're still folding out enough air and are "winning" vs KQ

Posted about 1 year ago

jk3a

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i think a good question is here: would you bet 3 barrels with a 4 of hears on the turn aswell, because trips or Tpwk is kinda the same hand here don't you think (except that we have better equity against a FD), because there are almost no hands between those in our opponents calling range for 3 streets, because i think the 3rd barrel is only going to be called by higher Kings and maybe 9T sometimes.



good question. i think Tx is more likely to call river when the turn pairs the K, especially in a small pot, but if we somehow knew what Tx was doing on the river, we could def make an argument for not betting or betting in both cases

Posted about 1 year ago

PrinzVonHapunkt

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Thanks very much for your replies Wink

i think Tx is more likely to call river when the turn pairs the K


Is that because we have to fire 3 barrels more often, because this card is no good barrel card because it doesnt help our perceived Range that much or because the Opponent thinks "yay, 2Pair!"

and in addition to that:

especially in a small pot


Because our ranges are wider (weaker) in small pots?

Posted about 1 year ago

jk3a

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Thanks very much for your replies Wink


Is that because we have to fire 3 barrels more often, because this card is no good barrel card because it doesnt help our perceived Range that much or because the Opponent thinks "yay, 2Pair!"

and in addition to that:

Because our ranges are wider (weaker) in small pots?



mostly the 2pair and that people usually call wider for smaller $$ amounts

Posted about 1 year ago



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