---

Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by Joe Tall (Micro/Small Stakes)

http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/2631-Episode-Two?seek=523

Without knowing OTRs hand, he should raise me here, that gives him all the spade outs on 6st usually. Now, I have two pair here and it will not work but most of the time I will not have two pair and it will.

http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/2631-Episode-Two?seek=546

I talk about the river concepts here: http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/2031-Episode-Eight

I would also c/r naked A/A here as Jeremy should fold a two pair here most of the time.

So if were check raising a naked AA, against his probably two pair but possible flush, then does that mean we should probably call with our two pair if he bet/3bets us, but obviously fold when we just had the Aces? I am not sure if that just seems a little too optimistic, but against a smart aggressive player who can turn his smaller two pair into a bluff, it seems like the pots so big we should call even a b/3b. Thanks for your thoughts, good video!

4Card

Time Link to 00:01:35

fwiw not standard for me. Your c/c range should probably include some hands you can show down easily, otherwise a smart aggressive opponent is going to put you into a lot of really difficult spots oop.

Time Link to 00:05:16

I FOLDED A PAIR!!! TOP PAIR!!!

Time Link to 00:12:34

I made queens up here. How'd I do?

Time Link to 00:15:01

6th street Joe.

Time Link to 00:18:14

3betting 2 pair there seems pretty thin. I'd have to stove it, but it seemed like an snap just call to me, especially since one of your most likely draws is completed by the 4. The 4 also doesn't make you a ton of worse two pairs.

Time Link to 00:30:57

Fwiw Joe, I owned you really hard on the flop here with 85, and THIS is the reason you shouldn't be 3betting this hand (or any hand really on this board texture), especially against a player like me.

2 points: 1. You'r e waiting for the turn with some portion of your very strongest hands. I know this. I also know you're threebetting hands like this so I can cap lead a relatively wide range very successfully against you.

2. You do much better preserving your implied odds in this spot and inducing bluffs. Not only will I not give you credit for a straight (JoeTall always fastplays his straight draws ldo), you'll pick up all those bets when I barrel whatever random draw or non-draw air that I decided to c/r with.

Fwiw Joe, I owned you really hard on the flop here with 85, and THIS is the reason you shouldn't be 3betting this hand (or any hand really on this board texture), especially against a player like me.

2 points: 1. You'r e waiting for the turn with some portion of your very strongest hands. I know this. I also know you're threebetting hands like this so I can cap lead a relatively wide range very successfully against you.

2. You do much better preserving your implied odds in this spot and inducing bluffs. Not only will I not give you credit for a straight (JoeTall always fastplays his straight draws ldo), you'll pick up all those bets when I barrel whatever random draw or non-draw air that I decided to c/r with.

Good stuff. However, it's impossible to 'own' someone when your equity is coin flipping. If my bets go in at 50/50, they go in at 50/50. Not raising for your other points makes great sense.

I made queens up here. How'd I do?

Perfect. Had you made 5s up, you should raise 4th as

1. your hand is obv quite vulnerable
2. your board looks like straight draw where you hold deception
3. vs my possible flush draw or if I do actually have a pair, your equity is good (not great)

Time Link to 00:38:38

Pretty sure that this is just a call on the river, especially if you are calling the 4-bet. It's pretty hard to imagine he is check-raising & calling with an 8 or a worse 7 twice as often as he has a better hand than you have here.

Time Link to 00:41:29

Any made T is a favourite here over your draw + J high.

Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
A28T6T 55.90% 872 0
234KaJ 44.10% 688 0

Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
578T6T 60.13% 938 0
234KaJ 39.87% 622 0

However, his spot is really shitty here if he is paired because he "has to" raise you or reveal his hand strength and allow you to easily call any river bet/bet for value really accurately.

Time Link to 00:35:04

I decided to not threebet anything preflop at some point in the match... why doesn't this lhe concept work in 08?

Time Link to 00:36:38

Since you called me out, you got BLUFFED here!

Time Link to 00:38:46

SPEWWWWWWWWW

Time Link to 00:53:33

It's pretty tough for him to have a FH here as you have a ton of blockers, I guess you don't think he will fold any flush to a 3-bet? Couldn't this also be a busted straight looking to get you off a chop.

Since you called me out, you got BLUFFED here!

Huh? how can I get bluffed there when I bluff bet. There is no chance I have any equity.

SPEWWWWWWWWW

I should only 3-bet intending to fold to a 4-bet. Non-video, I would have done this. But that being said I should have a 75 to 3-bet, yes.

It's pretty tough for him to have a FH here as you have a ton of blockers, I guess you don't think he will fold any flush to a 3-bet? Couldn't this also be a busted straight looking to get you off a chop.

He doesnt have to have a FH to beat me. And he never folds a flush, never ever. He did have the last hand you mention however!

It's pretty tough for him to have a FH here as you have a ton of blockers, I guess you don't think he will fold any flush to a 3-bet? Couldn't this also be a busted straight looking to get you off a chop.

I had QTxx. I think your river bet is way way too thin given the card that came, honestly. Nothing good happens when you bet this river as evidenced by this hand.

Time Link to 00:45:34

I had 647 rainbow. Seems too coordinated to just fold right away since a lot of your range is split 3s.

Time Link to 00:50:48

I dunno. Being silly. Your hand's pretty face up, but I probably should just bluff 3bet 45 and nothing else considering how rarely anyone folds anything there.

Time Link to 00:58:10

You said yourself that you're c/f your open pair of nines there. What value is there in betting the river when my hand is so face up?

I should only 3-bet intending to fold to a 4-bet. Non-video, I would have done this. But that being said I should have a 75 to 3-bet, yes.

Wait... I may be wrong here but if you can 3bet/fold to a four correctly here you're saying that you should 3bet 75, but isn't my ideal range in this spot when I c/r: 84xxx, 74xxx, 64xxx, 54xxx

75 only beats 1/4 of these hands. What am I missing?

Also, you've told me I should be c/r an 8 perfect on 7th. So your betting range should look something like 95xxx, 94xxx, 87xxx, 86xxx, 85xxx, 76xxx, 75xxx, 64xxx? Not sure if you should be betting your nines there, actually. What should my calling range be when you bet? 86xxx-98xxx?

In any case if I think I have to assume that, even if you're betting your nines, you're folding the worst of them to a c/r. So I'd guess it's a pretty close spot with 8-perfect in my spot and I think you need a 74 to even think about 3betting.

min. 9
why don't we keep on betting 7th? our hand could be a busted flushdraw and he is not going to bet onepair but might/will call a bet.
~~ I just think that he is going to c/b a lot of his range here.
obv. it is good to balance our c/r bluffing frequency. I'd like to know what your general gameplan on 7th street is (with this hand) and why you chose this action.
I also think that calling a 3bet on the river is rather bad because he will not be doing this as a bluff often enough imo given your boardtexture.
I got to watch episode 8 of your stud series.

min. 9
why don't we keep on betting 7th? our hand could be a busted flushdraw and he is not going to bet onepair but might/will call a bet.
~~ I just think that he is going to c/b a lot of his range here.
obv. it is good to balance our c/r bluffing frequency. I'd like to know what your general gameplan on 7th street is (with this hand) and why you chose this action.
I also think that calling a 3bet on the river is rather bad because he will not be doing this as a bluff often enough imo given your boardtexture.
I got to watch episode 8 of your stud series.

JoeTall didn't realize he made aces up. He was "bluffing". This hand pretty much sums up how I ran in this match.

You said yourself that you're c/f your open pair of nines there. What value is there in betting the river when my hand is so face up?

None. I was wrapping up and fiddling with software I just said it without thinking.

I had 647 rainbow. Seems too coordinated to just fold right away since a lot of your range is split 3s.

Agreed.

I had QTxx. I think your river bet is way way too thin given the card that came, honestly. Nothing good happens when you bet this river as evidenced by this hand.

Yeah, going to have to agree after looking this one over.

I dunno. Being silly. Your hand's pretty face up, but I probably should just bluff 3bet 45 and nothing else considering how rarely anyone folds anything there.

Spew, yep.

Wait... I may be wrong here but if you can 3bet/fold to a four correctly here you're saying that you should 3bet 75, but isn't my ideal range in this spot when I c/r: 84xxx, 74xxx, 64xxx, 54xxx

75 only beats 1/4 of these hands. What am I missing?

Also, you've told me I should be c/r an 8 perfect on 7th. So your betting range should look something like 95xxx, 94xxx, 87xxx, 86xxx, 85xxx, 76xxx, 75xxx, 64xxx? Not sure if you should be betting your nines there, actually. What should my calling range be when you bet? 86xxx-98xxx?

In any case if I think I have to assume that, even if you're betting your nines, you're folding the worst of them to a c/r. So I'd guess it's a pretty close spot with 8-perfect in my spot and I think you need a 74 to even think about 3betting.

You should pay me off with your 98, I would think you would so I should b/f. You should c/r your smooth 8 for sure, 85, you are check-calling a 86 or better (assume you paired the 4 on 6th, imo). However, I shouldn't 3-bet w/o a 75, I think 74 is an easy 3-bet.

Time Link to 00:40:09

less than 2.5:1 bad call if you make here imo. I dont like these calls and i said the same in some of your razz videos. I would be suprised to see somebody show a profit in these spots defending Ks and Qs. Js and Ts are a bit diff. but Ks and Qs are folds. If he was a raising a T or a 9 it would be a little bit diff. but i deff. still wouldn't be calling w/ 28 down. The hands i would play to possible some Ts and 9s are 7x combos and lower. You have to hit good 2 out of the next 2 streets if he is a competent razz player, and I mix in calls here w/ some of my bluffs if you hit good and i hit bad. then i get to price you out of hands on 5th that i hit good and you fail.

I agree w/ you in that i think razz is your worst game, but i have to admit you are a beast at stud hi and stud 8.

Time Link to 00:46:56

I think i would have called here, just because your getting 13:1....do you think you will win 1/13 of those? I think you will prob win at least 1. Yes he can obv. have a full house but the fact that we have 1 of his 2s i think helps a tiny bit. There also really isn't any reason for us to think he wouldn't raise there w/ a worse flush, like a Q high flush as our board only shows T high clubs possibly. Not sure though you are the stud pro not me.

I agree w/ you in that i think razz is your worst game, but i have to admit you are a beast at stud hi and stud 8.

Have you seen him play LHE?

Have you seen him play LHE?

I meant to insert a smiley here. Absolutely just kidding with Joe. His tallness brings out my insecurity.

How much action are you seeing nowadays at the HU HORSE tables? and how do the two coaches you have played so far compare to average level of competition?

How much action are you seeing nowadays at the HU HORSE tables? and how do the two coaches you have played so far compare to average level of competition?

Not much action at the HU HORSE. Every coach played in this series was 100x better than typical opponents.