Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by Joe Tall (High Stakes)

Really tough video to make this time, I got random spots of action from various opponents. One really great opponent in this video who plays a Stud8 hand like I've never seen before. But I was across 3 tables to try to keep action going to record the video, what happened was I got opponents all at once! Hope that didnt distract too much.

-Joe

Another top video JT.

Time Link to 00:23:38

joe, don't you have a live hand in both directions here? You have outs, maybe the best hand, and a live low + pair draw. I don't know, but folding there with one card to come seems really nitty. Even if you are behind, you have so many cards to catch up. Help me. I think i am making big mistakes at times.

Fantastic series, looking forward to next vid vs the reg. Nice adjustments vs the maniac, but I wonder: why you didn't fold more of the trashier hands pre- in omaha hi-low given that you could count on getting action every hand?

fwiw bert is a very spewy nl player. Can you discuss a bit why you want to be tighter from the button in o/8 compared to lhe?

Time Link to 00:27:47

Given you have Q hi on the flop and a pair on the turn, and that he has been check-raising you sooo much on the turn, checking back the turn here would be my natural line - especially as he has shown that he can stab at rivers in O8. Is this bad?

Time Link to 00:28:15

You have a bad timing tell with marginal/weak hands on 3rd/predraw. You often take a longer pause before opening pre with a weak hand; you automatically steal with your "no-brainer/strong" hands whilst continuing to talk but you wait until you have finished talking with the weaker ones. It seems to also be inducing aggression on his part.

Time Link to 00:30:56

ProPokerTools Razz Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
A4JQ 43.19% (259,048 wins, 153 ties)
(8-8-)K3 56.81% (340,799 wins, 153 ties)

ProPokerTools Razz Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
A4JQ 45.17% (270,929 wins, 194 ties)
(T-5-)K3 54.83% (328,877 wins, 194 ties)

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600,000 trials (Randomized)
A4JQ 43.78% (262,612 wins, 120 ties)
(T-T-)K3 56.22% (337,268 wins, 120 ties)

You have a bad timing tell with marginal/weak hands on 3rd/predraw. You often take a longer pause before opening pre with a weak hand; you automatically steal with your "no-brainer/strong" hands whilst continuing to talk but you wait until you have finished talking with the weaker ones. It seems to also be inducing aggression on his part.

You linked me to a holdem hand, btw.

What you really mean is:

"You have a bad timing tell when you are making a live-video for a series on DC, and are making sure you do not mis-speak, say 'um' or say 'like' too much. Especially when you have another table running so if the maniac leaves you can get another table up to finish off the video."

Given you have Q hi on the flop and a pair on the turn, and that he has been check-raising you sooo much on the turn, checking back the turn here would be my natural line - especially as he has shown that he can stab at rivers in O8. Is this bad?

Yeah, that might be a good line for this spot, get to showdown cheap as possible.

ProPokerTools Razz Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
A4JQ 43.19% (259,048 wins, 153 ties)
(8-8-)K3 56.81% (340,799 wins, 153 ties)

ProPokerTools Razz Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
A4JQ 45.17% (270,929 wins, 194 ties)
(T-5-)K3 54.83% (328,877 wins, 194 ties)

ProPokerTools Razz Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
A4JQ 43.78% (262,612 wins, 120 ties)
(T-T-)K3 56.22% (337,268 wins, 120 ties)

Who needs PPR?

Time Link to 00:36:17

You should not stop raising here as you have him board-locked.

Time Link to 00:38:45

Do you not feel a check-call lets him put in an extra bet with worse here and saves you from being raised by better? If you think there is value, you can check-raise-fold?

You linked me to a holdem hand, btw.

What you really mean is:

"You have a bad timing tell when you are making a live-video for a series on DC, and are making sure you do not mis-speak, say 'um' or say 'like' too much. Especially when you have another table running so if the maniac leaves you can get another table up to finish off the video."

This is exactly what I meant. I was only mentioning as I think villain's actions were being somewhat affected by it, and it was possibly affecting game-flow.

joe, don't you have a live hand in both directions here? You have outs, maybe the best hand, and a live low + pair draw. I don't know, but folding there with one card to come seems really nitty. Even if you are behind, you have so many cards to catch up. Help me. I think i am making big mistakes at times.

Our opponent raises 3rd xx7 vs my (43)6 I elect to just call. (he either has a low hand or junk, if I jam and miss I tie myself to the pot when I my equity is crushed on 4th.)

I 'hit'(43)63 and he goes xx72, he bets, I raise he calls. I hit again (43)632 and he hits an xx72A and he leads, right now I have his range at:

ProPokerTools Stud Hi/Lo Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
4d3d|6s3c2d 52.35% (196,637 scoops, 310,800 wins hi, 11 ties hi, 267,524 wins lo, 682 ties lo)
*s*s, 22-AA, A*, LL|7h2sAs 47.65% (168,563 scoops, 289,189 wins hi, 11 ties hi, 193,165 wins lo, 682 ties lo)

Then I brick 6th and he hits a card I need:

ProPokerTools Stud Hi/Lo Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
4d3d|6s3c2dQc 30.69% (73,976 scoops, 212,330 wins hi, 0 ties hi, 127,149 wins lo, 0 ties lo)
*s*s, 22-AA, A*, LL|7h2sAs5h 69.31% (305,755 scoops, 387,670 wins hi, 0 ties hi, 346,814 wins lo, 0 ties lo)

That's my overall equity with one card to come and giving him a very wide range.

If I cut out the suited-hands and the pairs (more likely holding):

ProPokerTools Stud Hi/Lo Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
4d3d|6s3c2dQc 28.85% (62,565 scoops, 205,819 wins hi, 0 ties hi, 121,021 wins lo, 0 ties lo)
A*, LL|7h2sAs5h 71.15% (316,378 scoops, 394,181 wins hi, 0 ties hi, 371,973 wins lo, 0 ties lo)

Going to say it's a tight but good fold, my RIO are high. (calling poorly on the end when I make a weak-naked low)

You should not stop raising here as you have him board-locked.

Yeah, I was sooooo weirded out by the last hand that I failed on that river, agreed.

Do you not feel a check-call lets him put in an extra bet with worse here and saves you from being raised by better? If you think there is value, you can check-raise-fold?

Normally yes, but after that Stud8 action, I thought my opponent may be major-tilt-spewing, when you think this, make sure bets go in and be prepared to pay off some raises. It's higher variance for sure, but you have to see more showdowns in such situation. (until you think he's adjusted for sure)

have watched 5 min. so far and you are pretty awful, at least at O8.

ex: capping J47hh flop with Axhh and no low draw.

ex: calling 3bet pf with 8852 or something like that and instafolding on KK5 flop

ex: rr pf with AQKJ (????) and c/r on 842 flop with a FD (lol)

this is pretty awful

have watched 5 min. so far and you are pretty awful, at least at O8.

ex: capping J47hh flop with Axhh and no low draw.

ex: calling 3bet pf with 8852 or something like that and instafolding on KK5 flop

ex: rr pf with AQKJ (????) and c/r on 842 flop with a FD (lol)

this is pretty awful

This is HU poker the ranges are wide, quite often the high only will scoop the pot.

Please leave a time-stamp or better yet, Watch this short video, and leave a time link!

That will be much easier to find the hand and answer your questions, thanks.

I don't know, maybe this is just me. But in LO8 it is often difficult to see what his hand was and who shipped what part of the pot. Have you ever considered turning the dealer messages on such that they say "player1 won the lo with xxxx..."? I think it'd help a lot if we could just see it right there.

I don't know, maybe this is just me. But in LO8 it is often difficult to see what his hand was and who shipped what part of the pot. Have you ever considered turning the dealer messages on such that they say "player1 won the lo with xxxx..."? I think it'd help a lot if we could just see it right there.

I thought the same. I think turning on animations would be as useful.

Time Link to 00:30:15

Isn't a turn bet here really good for protection? It's a small pot, but you're always good for high, he doesn't seem to have a low with redraws so you're not worried about being freerolled too bad and can put pressure on bare FDs/AKT6 kind of hands which have ok but not great equity vs you.

Isn't a turn bet here really good for protection? It's a small pot, but you're always good for high, he doesn't seem to have a low with redraws so you're not worried about being freerolled too bad and can put pressure on bare FDs/AKT6 kind of hands which have ok but not great equity vs you.

Not much to protect after checking the flop, it would be for value, which is thin against a calling range in this small pot.