Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by Joe Tall (Micro/Small Stakes)

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Max rake is $0.50 for HU games. $0.25 when ($5 < pot < $10), given you see the flop/4th.

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6c 5h for me. Pretty loose defence, standard semibluff on 4th, amirite?

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i actually folded a pair of aces here (obv hated everything about the hand from 5th onwards). should i have paid this one off?

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just 4d5sTs3d for flopped trips, an openender, a not so great lowdraw and a backdoor flush that was no good. sigh...

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T943hhcc

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lol i totally butchered this one (i had Ts9s5d3c). at the time i felt like i had just enough equity to peel my way to showdown, but looking back at it that cannot be quite right. anyone else like a flop check in my place?

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nooooo! why dont you have anything here? i run so bad imo (even when i turn quads)

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Td Js in the hole, rivered a brick, turned my pair of tens into a bluff. really happy with this one
not really sure I like your river bet here when you have exactly what you appear to have and I could have all kinds of better hands.

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Man! You almost made it through the whole hold em round without a mistake. Do you really think he checks back a pair here to fold it? I like checking to induce again as I feel his most likely hands are, in order, Kx, air, Jx. The river is 100% for value and is likely too thin. I'm really surprised to see him show up with Ax here. Seeing that would make me want to not stab a lot when he chks back the flop.

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You say you're planning on b/3betting the river, and I think that's a mistake. I haven't seen what moritz does here, but I'd be very surprised if he raised you with any hand and even more surprised if he called a 3bet with a hand you beat. The good news is that, since he raises you so infrequently, it's not going to matter. The bad news is, if he does raise you, threebetting is super spew.

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A few thoughts: first of all, I think your decision to raise right away is pretty defensible, but since I guess Mortiz thinks you're going to be fastplaying a lot more than a normal player, I'd probably just wait for the turn. I also think you should strongly consider a fold on this particular river with your hand, all of Moritz's semibluffs got there and there just isn't enough pure air in his range to justify a cd imo.

6c 5h for me. Pretty loose defence, standard semibluff on 4th, amirite?

Pretty standard actually. I do have the 9c which is bad for you but you can catch 5678 to continue easily.

i actually folded a pair of aces here (obv hated everything about the hand from 5th onwards). should i have paid this one off?

Gotta look at some maths but folding 6th is probably correct once I pick up a likely 1/2 of the pot, if you call 6th you should be going to the showdown as nothing has really changed.

just 4d5sTs3d for flopped trips, an openender, a not so great lowdraw and a backdoor flush that was no good. sigh...

You can probably bet-fold the river, classic O8-sigh-hand btw.

T943hhcc

I couldn't spit it out but this is the exact type of hand that has not made a high hand to easily scoop the pot on a all low board.

lol i totally butchered this one (i had Ts9s5d3c). at the time i felt like i had just enough equity to peel my way to showdown, but looking back at it that cannot be quite right. anyone else like a flop check in my place?

Since you have no low draw, and there is a flopped low, yes check the flop.

nooooo! why dont you have anything here? i run so bad imo (even when i turn quads)

I play way too good, obv.

Td Js in the hole, rivered a brick, turned my pair of tens into a bluff. really happy with this one
not really sure I like your river bet here when you have exactly what you appear to have and I could have all kinds of better hands.

I am going to agree with you about the river bet. If you look, I went to check first but then didnt give you enough credit as stud player and put you on 0-bluff chance and much high call w/one pair chance. (like most fish do).

For more on river betting in Stud-Hi, check out EP8 of Nightmare on 7st: http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/2031-Episode-Eight

Man! You almost made it through the whole hold em round without a mistake. Do you really think he checks back a pair here to fold it?

No, but I get very small value against his baby flush draws it what I was hoping to spit out, but I hear what you are saying.

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Don't really like your flop peel here. What exactly are you trying to accomplish here. It's not very likely at all that you're going to win UI, even when I have nothing and your pair outs are severely tainted.

Also: Yay me for bluff c/r-ing the turn with the best hand (9c8c)! Got a lot of value out of my 9 hi imo.

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Yeah, that's a pretty standard spot to bluff 3bet. Turns out I had 45 and you would probably have won the pot by keeping the foot on the gas.

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BUT YOU HAVE A TENNNNN!

Yeah, that's a pretty standard spot to bluff 3bet. Turns out I had 45 and you would probably have won the pot by keeping the foot on the gas.

Yeah agree with you and Moritz that i prefer a bluff 3bet there. Even if we don't count the times Moritz has 4 high, he has enough bigger straight and or flush draws to make up for our small equity deficit.

Also I lol'ed a little at "you would probably have won the pot". Moritz, you are a sick puppy.

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I think calling that turn is pretty bad. I can see it being a bit better against someone who is going to barrel his entire range there, but still the 9 is a pretty terrible card even against ATC in that spot and you have a pretty crappy Q. I'd just muck.

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Naked Jack! Sick raise JT!

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Re: K5 on A75ddd

I think c/r here is pretty non-standard and needs a pretty strong read that villain is going to spew back at you a large portion of the time to be correct.

The problem is twofold: first, you're not doing very well against his call down range here, much less his continuing range. Second, your c/c range becomes much too weak on this board and Moritz is going to have an easy time dealing with it.

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K3 on AK4r

I kinda dislike both of your plays in this spot. Moritz does have one of his better 4s, but still I'd be using his hand as the top of my c/c range rather than the bottom of my c/r for value range. My comments from the last hand apply here as well.

Joe,

Your turn raise seems bad imo because Moritz's value range is actually pretty strong here and his bluff range is pretty wide. Also you have a BAD king, which is much different in this spot than something like KQ. I like calling to induce bluffs and betting when checked to on the river.

Your river bet is way too thin once the board pairs. I also think you should probably fold to the raise with a hand this far down your value range. Moritz just doesn't have enough hands that he's turning into a bluff for you to bluff catch with your whole bluff catching range. I think the results are pretty instructive in this case. I mean you say: "uh oh" then you bet/call. LOL

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Folding to the raise because he won't raise a 98 doesn't make sense. A 98 is the best hand he can possibly have. This seems like a super easy check/call to me?

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Re 56 on 9T7

I think I like c/r the flop and barreling although it's pretty close. There are a lot of good turn cards that don't complete your hand but do give Lela a good chance to fold. J,Q,club.

On the turn you've got a pretty interesting decision. If you had a bit weaker hand I think I'd like a donk/bluff (Lets say a hand like Kcx) but as it is, I think c/f is probably best.

Cool vid guys. I thought both of you played pretty well and even JT in the hold 'em didn't butcher too many hands

Seriously though. I learned a lot here and look forward to the next installment. I'd love to be a villain at some point down the line (not too high please)

K3 on AK4r

I kinda dislike both of your plays in this spot. Moritz does have one of his better 4s, but still I'd be using his hand as the top of my c/c range rather than the bottom of my c/r for value range. My comments from the last hand apply here as well.

Joe,

Your turn raise seems bad imo because Moritz's value range is actually pretty strong here and his bluff range is pretty wide. Also you have a BAD king, which is much different in this spot than something like KQ. I like calling to induce bluffs and betting when checked to on the river.

Your river bet is way too thin once the board pairs. I also think you should probably fold to the raise with a hand this far down your value range. Moritz just doesn't have enough hands that he's turning into a bluff for you to bluff catch with your whole bluff catching range. I think the results are pretty instructive in this case. I mean you say: "uh oh" then you bet/call. LOL

Yeah pretty weird hand, but I do think my flop c/r is OK. I like to have some 4s in my c/r range, and this is the best bottom pair I could possibly have. I would probably not have checkraised without the BDFD. Obv I was hoping that JT correctly views me as a spewtard that's checkraising all kinds of nonsense on this board , and if he decides to get stubborn with a Q hi I have him totally destroyed. For the same reason I decided to not believe him on the turn, although that might be kinda bad actually. Dunno, I'm not that good at folding pairs
Also: JT's turn/river line is pretty bad for the reasons you gave.

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I'm pretty sure that this is too tight to fold the 4T6 to a 3-door steal - *maybe* with the rake you can justify it. You can outflop him and win immediately, and even though you both have low cards, I haven't been getting the feeling he has been passing up any ATC steals.

Also, if you are playing this tight with low vs. low door you should almost certainly be 3-betting any hand you do choose to play against him. Would be good to see a discussion of why we 3-bet 3rd and why we won't, and some common balance issues we might come up against with competent opponents.

Sick vid. Mad props to JT and DC for pushing the envelope with content. HU HORSE. Wow. Just wow.

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Isn't 94 is a pretty tight fold here getting 3-1? Though, with the high rake and being OOP against fnupple I can't blame you too much.

I'm pretty sure that this is too tight to fold the 4T6 to a 3-door steal - *maybe* with the rake you can justify it. You can outflop him and win immediately, and even though you both have low cards, I haven't been getting the feeling he has been passing up any ATC steals.

Also, if you are playing this tight with low vs. low door you should almost certainly be 3-betting any hand you do choose to play against him. Would be good to see a discussion of why we 3-bet 3rd and why we won't, and some common balance issues we might come up against with competent opponents.

100% agree. I think I was embarrassed and busy trying to explain my Stud-Hi HU concept while I was playing Razz. Making a live-HU-Mix game vid is not as easy as I thought it would be!

Yeah pretty weird hand, but I do think my flop c/r is OK. I like to have some 4s in my c/r range, and this is the best bottom pair I could possibly have. I would probably not have checkraised without the BDFD. Obv I was hoping that JT correctly views me as a spewtard that's checkraising all kinds of nonsense on this board , and if he decides to get stubborn with a Q hi I have him totally destroyed. For the same reason I decided to not believe him on the turn, although that might be kinda bad actually. Dunno, I'm not that good at folding pairs
Also: JT's turn/river line is pretty bad for the reasons you gave.

Doesn't that weak for a pretty weak checkcall range that will be folding to too many barrels?

This is a pretty wow vid Señor Tall, live sweat mixed limit HU is probably the hardest coaching vid that would could imagine doing, and it's quite amazing you pulled it off. I probably learnt more about poker in this one vid than any other.

Isn't 94 is a pretty tight fold here getting 3-1? Though, with the high rake and being OOP against fnupple I can't blame you too much.

Thanks! I clearly state that in the video. You want to play as close to optimal as possible but when you have a big advantage in the other games, it's more optimal for you to pull out of marginal spots during the games you have no advantage.

Doesn't that weak for a pretty weak checkcall range that will be folding to too many barrels?

This is a pretty wow vid Señor Tall, live sweat mixed limit HU is probably the hardest coaching vid that would could imagine doing, and it's quite amazing you pulled it off. I probably learnt more about poker in this one vid than any other.

Wow, thank you very much.

Folding to the raise because he won't raise a 98 doesn't make sense. A 98 is the best hand he can possibly have. This seems like a super easy check/call to me?

even a bet/call is ok (betting to get paid by J9 or T9 AND to induce a bluff) - folding to th raise doesn't make much sense IMHO, as he can't legitimately raise you with the 98 for value (unless he thinks he has a timing tell that you're betting the T-low), because you are representing a hand stronger than the 98...
Frankly I'm quite sure he bricked 7th...

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actually the rake is $0.50 cents max in any HU match

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Were you calling a 3 bet?

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I would call the c/r on the turn with 9924, as you have the 2nd nut low draw, and although it is rare, it isn't impossible you are ahead for high.

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Why is it tough for your opponent to play against an ace in razz? It seems only slightly better than a 2 or 3.

Why is it tough for your opponent to play against an ace in razz? It seems only slightly better than a 2 or 3.

Because it's Stud Hi.

I would call the c/r on the turn with 9924, as you have the 2nd nut low draw, and although it is rare, it isn't impossible you are ahead for high.

Its really rare/near-0 for high. This is nearly a straight math question which quickly seems really close off the top of my head for 1/2 the pot.