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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by Grindcore (Micro/Small Stakes)

first, haha- 260mb, thats a huge file??
cheers looking forward to viewing this!

The wmv link goes to the same file as 5th episode.

18 Minutes in and already had a few head asplode moments, lol

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[x] bööönch of waiting lists.

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I'm surprised you didn't recognize the obvious donk slowplay line right away and folded the river. He is soooo likely to c/f the river with QJ, A5 (might c/c), JT whatever he's peeling. It's also less likely that he's peeling QJ JT and whatever because the K is on board and he can't make top pair with those hands. His leading range on the river is exactly 7x, Kx and pairs QQ and lower - and he is neeeeeever folding to a raise imo.


Also, what are your thoughts behind choosing the turtle avatar and what effects do you think that has on metagame?

I'm surprised you didn't recognize the obvious donk slowplay line right away and folded the river. He is soooo likely to c/f the river with QJ, A5 (might c/c), JT whatever he's peeling. It's also less likely that he's peeling QJ JT and whatever because the K is on board and he can't make top pair with those hands. His leading range on the river is exactly 7x, Kx and pairs QQ and lower - and he is neeeeeever folding to a raise imo.

Yeah he folds QJ JT on the turn, but not A high I think. But you're right, with A high he probably doesn't lead the river, should have folded there. One thing I didn't say in the video was his flop c/c timing. People usually don't think that long before they c/c a king there. It's more likely air or 7x.

I think if the turn wasn't a 7 and I took the same line, I'd have folded river because now 7x is more likely. But "nobody ever has quads", which is probably why I fell for it.

Also, what are your thoughts behind choosing the turtle avatar and what effects do you think that has on metagame?

Though I haven't done it in a DC video yet, changing your avatar to happy before overbetting is awesome, and with the turtle this will be most visible. If you confuse him first, he retracts his head, and when you then change to happy, his head pops out for an extra dramatic effect (most other avatars only change the mouth and you barely notice). No other avatar can level people into folds like that.

Though I haven't done it in a DC video yet, changing your avatar to happy before overbetting is awesome, and with the turtle this will be most visible. If you confuse him first, he retracts his head, and when you then change to happy, his head pops out for an extra dramatic effect (most other avatars only change the mouth and you barely notice). No other avatar can level people into folds like that.

Do I sense a turtle invasion after this comment?

nice one.

getting famous lol

Though I haven't done it in a DC video yet, changing your avatar to happy before overbetting is awesome, and with the turtle this will be most visible. If you confuse him first, he retracts his head, and when you then change to happy, his head pops out for an extra dramatic effect (most other avatars only change the mouth and you barely notice). No other avatar can level people into folds like that.

Quoting myself here. In one of my old videos on PokerSavvy Plus for those who have membership there, Elements of a Winner part 3, 12:40 table 2, enjoy

is it really that hard to not time out? you say its the software yet you have the time button clicked, you can see the timer counting, and still fail to make plays and then say "you would have done something else". make the correct play, and explain it after the fact.

Though I haven't done it in a DC video yet, changing your avatar to happy before overbetting is awesome

Lol! And I always thought I'm creative for doing that every time I overbet.

Finally! And YES! This kind fo vid is what i was hoping for !

is it really that hard to not time out? you say its the software yet you have the time button clicked, you can see the timer counting, and still fail to make plays and then say "you would have done something else". make the correct play, and explain it after the fact.

Yes it is really hard. Multitabling and talking at the same time is alot harder than just playing or just watching and thinking along. Speaking thoughts when you think much faster than you can talk is also hard, atleast for me. And on iPoker, where I normally play, you get 30 seconds per decision, which is more than on FTP. I was also playing without sound so I didn't hear the warning beeps, I'll make sure to change my audio configuration for future sweat sessions.

I also prefer 2 tables for video making, but there was demand to seeing me play alot of standard spots, so I did 4 tables for this one.

The wmv link goes to the same file as 5th episode.

any update on this?

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Did you notice the hand going on on table 2? 3bet pot, flop goes check check, turn the 3bettor bets $3 in $40 or something, then he overbets pot on the river? What do u think about that hand? KK only ?

great episode!!!

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you note that villain is an unknown and still c/c the river w/KJ.

From your experience do you think unknown villains are not capable of value-betting their A-x hands on this board texture? I ask because I have trouble calling down like you did in this spot.

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Feel like I need to clarify my question a bit more:

Against an unknown villain, what leads you to determine that he's bluffing a third barrel here over value-betting an A-x or potentially even a set?

any update on this?

MP4 is the same (or better) quality as WMV and smaller filesize. Google VLC player if you can't open mp4 files.

You should try the frog avatar then

You should try the frog avatar then

Yeah, that was my 2nd choice. But the turtle has a better confused look imo, and my favourite childhood stuffed animal was a turtle too.

Yeah, that was my 2nd choice. But the turtle has a better confused look imo, and my favourite childhood stuffed animal was a turtle too.

Best confused avatar is the penguin

ainec

Yeah but it doesn't have the same effect when you change it to happy from confused. His shell also protects him from barrels and when he has the nuts he also always get payed because they expect him to slowplay it. And there's also a turtle species called snapping turtle. Turtle wins imo.

Yeah but it doesn't have the same effect when you change it to happy from confused. His shell also protects him from barrels and when he has the nuts he also always get payed because they expect him to slowplay it. And there's also a turtle species called snapping turtle. Turtle wins imo.

Can't argue with this logic!

zombie avatar has the best confused look imo.

Did you notice the hand going on on table 2? 3bet pot, flop goes check check, turn the 3bettor bets $3 in $40 or something, then he overbets pot on the river? What do u think about that hand? KK only ?

You messed up the timelink I think. Please timelink to the start of the hand. I manually searched 2 minutes before and after your timelink and still couldn't find the described hand.

The wmv link goes to the same file as 5th episode.

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Both the 4th and 5th Eps point to the same WMV link. Would someone pls correct this. Which is which?

Feel like I need to clarify my question a bit more:

Against an unknown villain, what leads you to determine that he's bluffing a third barrel here over value-betting an A-x or potentially even a set?

Just make your best guess. But put yourself in villains shoes. If you're on the river with A9, are you really betting? Do you think a jack will really call? Alot of people will check back there with Ax atleast some % of the time, and all straight draws and spades missed. There's also not really a difference between KJ and A9 of spades there, which you could easily get to the river with in the same fashion. Though you probably find the call with A9 easier. Also don't underestimate potodds. You only need to be good 29% of the time to call there.

At 42:30 or so you make a note that "Long Nguy3n" check-calls the flop with TP as preflop raiser, but he wasn't the preflop raiser, the guy with 55 was.

I always hated iPoker for their overlong timebank and players like you btw... It's just so f***ing tilting to play against some people who take 10+ seconds to think in like every third time they have to make a decision. That's what I like about Ongame, their ultra-short (something like 10sec?) timebank for each action is great imo.

Also, the more time I have, the more I level myself to make stupid -EV calls.

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With 77 here, you say if he check-shoves, you would snap it here. Why?

What range do you put him on for that play and why do you think 77 does well against that range or against this particular villain and his image?

MP4 is the same (or better) quality as WMV and smaller filesize. Google VLC player if you can't open mp4 files.

Downloading that now. I figured vlc would play it. VLC plays betamax doesn't it?

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What a strange way to think about doubling up a fish. I've never considered it that way before. But wouldn't you want to rather double up a fish on your right than on your left? Can you expand on ths topic a bit more?

Downloading that now. I figured vlc would play it. VLC plays betamax doesn't it?

VLC plays about anything. There's really no reason to ever download the wmv format if you can play back mp4 imo.

With 77 here, you say if he check-shoves, you would snap it here. Why?

What range do you put him on for that play and why do you think 77 does well against that range or against this particular villain and his image?

Any pair, any gutter, random overs... Note his stacksize, it's perfect for shoving, less than pot. I'm not even making a crying call when he shoves, I'm probably ahead. If we're 100bbs deep and he checkraises to the same ammount that would be a shove here I just fold.

Just make your best guess. But put yourself in villains shoes. If you're on the river with A9, are you really betting? Do you think a jack will really call? Alot of people will check back there with Ax atleast some % of the time, and all straight draws and spades missed. There's also not really a difference between KJ and A9 of spades there, which you could easily get to the river with in the same fashion. Though you probably find the call with A9 easier. Also don't underestimate potodds. You only need to be good 29% of the time to call there.

do you make the call without holding a blocker (you have the Kd) to the runner runner flush as well?

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Both the 4th and 5th Eps point to the same WMV link. Would someone pls correct this. Which is which?

All,
I apologize as today was a travel day for me and I just sat down. I have fixed the link for Episode 4 (it was going to episode 5) so now all should be able to get two separate wmv's. Enjoy.
-Rusty

excellent video. you make it look so easy. is it more a result of work away from the tables, or playing fewer tables w/ greater focus?

excellent video. you make it look so easy. is it more a result of work away from the tables, or playing fewer tables w/ greater focus?

Probably both, and having alot of experience now obviously helps too.

do you make the call without holding a blocker (you have the Kd) to the runner runner flush as well?

Yes, that's only a tiny bit of equity different. The call is not that close I think.

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He's not the PFR

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Very interesting hand on table 4. When he barrels, the turn, his value range is super narrow, and if he is aggressive he should fire the river. Given the context, how big a bet would you have called, on the river ?

Also , I think Improva, talked about this specific situation in the video in which he used the StoxEv model.....

Thanks.

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http://memegenerator.net/Instances/936/Apathy-Dog-VALUE-BET-3RD-PAIR-CHECK-BACK-TOP-PAIR.jpg

really really appreciate this video. imo you have a really good thought process that is explained well. i play 100-400nl FR on stars and i learned a crapload on your videos. thanks!!!

Time Link to 00:25:51

table 2 quad 7 hand:
Would you put a pocket pair (specificaly 88-TT) in his range at the turn?

Very interesting hand on table 4. When he barrels, the turn, his value range is super narrow, and if he is aggressive he should fire the river. Given the context, how big a bet would you have called, on the river ?

Also , I think Improva, talked about this specific situation in the video in which he used the StoxEv model.....

Thanks.

Maybe I'll call 1/3rd pot, and I wouldn't be happy about it as people don't bluff wit that size and he's not valuebetting J9 there. I don't think I had reads to justify a 3rd call there. Raising river is alot better than calling.

table 2 quad 7 hand:
Would you put a pocket pair (specificaly 88-TT) in his range at the turn?

Yes, why not? He's loose passive.

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On table 4, you mentioned about c/r with KJ as top pair on this draw heavy board. I think most TAG's here will c/r with mostly sets and big draws, and occasionally air. TP type hands they'll almost always c/c. So are you usually c/r TPGK and TPTK type hands for value in these spots 100bb's deep? Obviously this balances your c/r range since villains will get owned trying to bluffcatch with JT/99/88 type hands.

You also mentioned about c/r and getting it in would be "standard" for you 100bb deep. Do you really think villains in this spot are 3bet shoving the flop light enough to make this +EV? Please just elaborate a little bit about how to handle different parts of our range in this spot since I think most TAG regulars are at least somewhat uncomfortable vs other regs when defending their blind.

On table 4, you mentioned about c/r with KJ as top pair on this draw heavy board. I think most TAG's here will c/r with mostly sets and big draws, and occasionally air. TP type hands they'll almost always c/c. So are you usually c/r TPGK and TPTK type hands for value in these spots 100bb's deep? Obviously this balances your c/r range since villains will get owned trying to bluffcatch with JT/99/88 type hands.

No, I usually lead these flops where villain is likely to check back. If I check it's because I think villain cbets too much and I wanna punish him for that by checkraising wet flops, or because I've been c/r bluffing him alot on other board textures and since my image will be bad, I'm looking to checkraise a flop for value asap.

You also mentioned about c/r and getting it in would be "standard" for you 100bb deep. Do you really think villains in this spot are 3bet shoving the flop light enough to make this +EV? Please just elaborate a little bit about how to handle different parts of our range in this spot since I think most TAG regulars are at least somewhat uncomfortable vs other regs when defending their blind.

No it's not standard, I kinda phrased that badly. Standard is leading. However, if I c/r and get shoved on (or he 3bets pot committing) I'm getting it in, c/r/f is horrible without reads. Here I think we're too deep to get it in, so I'd have to c/r/f, which sucks, so I'm either gonna c/c or lead.

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In this QQ hand 3 way vs regulars, I am not sure I like your ch/call as if he has air he is betting a lot of turns when you can't continue and he is rarely betting here for value with hands that we beat without large amounts of equity.

meaning i like b/f better.

that said, what would you do if it was heads up?

In this QQ hand 3 way vs regulars, I am not sure I like your ch/call as if he has air he is betting a lot of turns when you can't continue and he is rarely betting here for value with hands that we beat without large amounts of equity.

meaning i like b/f better.

that said, what would you do if it was heads up?

HU I'd also often c/c for exactly the same reasons I check here. Also HU he'll bluff 100% of his air because there's no 3rd player behind. HU he'll also be more likely to raise the flop than when there's a 3rd player behind him so cbetting doesn't become better necessarily.

Betting that flop is begging to get raised. If you don't have a c/c range there you're gonna get owned as villain can raise your cbets blindly and also bluff at all your checks.

Yes it is really hard. Multitabling and talking at the same time is alot harder than just playing or just watching and thinking along. Speaking thoughts when you think much faster than you can talk is also hard, atleast for me. And on iPoker, where I normally play, you get 30 seconds per decision, which is more than on FTP. I was also playing without sound so I didn't hear the warning beeps, I'll make sure to change my audio configuration for future sweat sessions.

I also prefer 2 tables for video making, but there was demand to seeing me play alot of standard spots, so I did 4 tables for this one.

I really like the detailed explanations of your thought process during the hands. I'm not sure if it is too late to suggest this, but you may want to try Poker Stars for your next 4-table vid. The time bank there is MUCH longer than FTP's, so you won't feel so rushed or time out.

Another quick suggestion: Could you please try and identify who you are talking about and/or which table more clearly? I get confused sometimes when you say "this guy," or "here I decided to check..." and there are a few different hands going on at once. Maybe assign table numbers or something?

Thanks for a great video. I have a question about your own HUD stats. I watched your PS+ videos where you mention that your VPIP is often around 20, even below. Here your average VPIP on 4 tables would be something over 30. Is this due to the specific tables (a lot of donks), the fact that you're looking for interesting spots for the video or has your style just changed?

Best regards

Thanks for a great video. I have a question about your own HUD stats. I watched your PS+ videos where you mention that your VPIP is often around 20, even below. Here your average VPIP on 4 tables would be something over 30. Is this due to the specific tables (a lot of donks), the fact that you're looking for interesting spots for the video or has your style just changed?

Best regards

I play ~22 vpip 6handed, but 28 vpip filtered for 6max. That's as a result of shorter handed play (in reality the average ammount of players at a table is around 5). The larger my edge on the players at the table, the more hands I can open profitably, hence my VPIP also increases when I drop down from mid/high stakes to small stakes. If I make a play just to get in a spot but where I'd normaly fold (which I did several times in the series), I mention it every time in the video I think.

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(QQ vs the regs oop)

Grindcore, you mention stack sizes. I guess 100bb deep you would c/c as well ?

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hi on the hand q10s bvsb u open 4x and call his min-raise i like a lot that(vs this kind of player).but i really don't undestand why u jam the flop because i think when this kind of player min-raise and cb bet big they aren't bluffing so i will just call and fold to his jam at the turn if i did't hit my flush.
is that correct?
sorry for my enghlish...
anyway good vide

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hi in the hand q7s u are in the big blind vs two small stack i like ur open 4x and not 5x but on a jxxflop vs 2 donk that have that stack i will bet around 7.7 or 8 becouse they will fold more than a small bet becouse i think they bluff a lot on that kind of hand and board.

Time Link to 00:55:49

Hey GC, love your series.

On The Q8o hand after getting flat called by the tight player when you cold 4bet and again after cbetting the AKTr board, you planned to 2 barrel the 9h turn hoping to get him off hands like AQ. I don't have any experience playing ultra deep like this, but how often would you expect a tight player to take this line with AQ here and then fold to the 2 barrel? If you have a strong perceived range, he could flat again with his GS to the nuts, and if you had a range with a lot of air due to your poor image, he should flat call for value to keep your air in with his top pair. So the way I see it, he should never get to the turn with AQ and choose to fold it...Does that make sense?

With your bad image, Wouldn't you expect villain to continue often with marginal hands and even raise stronger hands that you have 4 outs against? Is this less likely because you're so deep?

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KJs:

I like your plan (betting turn - shoving river to make his weak holdings to fold there).
But after timing out, why in the hell you bluff the river?
I mean,
after not 2ndbarelling the A-turn, he often has SD-Value.
Do you think that after checking back the turn, you have now on the river enough FEQ?
I am not sure....

Time Link to 01:11:22

I think that in exactly this spot a delayed float is way better than a float on turn for your overall gameplan.

Reason:
His perceived range after C/raising this dry flop where he could not rep anything/much and now checking turn is just air.
So I would checkback here my toprange and my bluffcatchingrange.
To balance this, I love also to check back here my floats (my air) to take it down >95% on the river with a 1/3-PS-Bet.
This riverbetsize would be also my betsize with my toprange and any madehands to induce maybe some spazz + get some curiosity/frustrated calls....

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QQ:

You said that he has on the river never a jack.

Why not?
Imo a check back from him with a jack would be nice on the turn b/c after only C/Called the Drawheavy board as PFA our range is capped:
You have neither FDs most of the time (where he should protect), nor you have 2Pair+ (where he also should protect and could extract value).
Your oerceived range is very weak and will C/Fold turn most of the time.
So a CB on turn with a jack is imo for him not too bad.

at min 20, you call the 3bet IP with KQo, is that profitable?

at min 20, you call the 3bet IP with KQo, is that profitable?

Please leave a time-stamp or better yet, Watch this short video, and leave a time link!

That will be much easier for the coaches to find the hand and answer your questions, thanks.

Please leave a time-stamp or better yet, Watch this short video, and leave a time link!

That will be much easier [b]for the coaches to find the hand and answer your questions[b], thanks.

lol,
for what is`s worth when there is no more the caoch here D:

will there ever be a next part`?

is it really that hard to not time out? you say its the software yet you have the time button clicked, you can see the timer counting, and still fail to make plays and then say "you would have done something else". make the correct play, and explain it after the fact.

+1 definitely good stuff inside but the fact you timed out so many hands made me tilt hard.

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I don't understand PF raise sizes:
UTG = 4x
MP = 3.5x
CO = 3x
Btn = 2.5x

Surely it should be the other way around since we make most of our money from playing in position? For example if I am on button with 78s I would rather raise big to build pot so I can outplay villain in position and take down bigger pot when they miss and c/f flop.

I don't understand PF raise sizes:
UTG = 4x
MP = 3.5x
CO = 3x
Btn = 2.5x

Surely it should be the other way around since we make most of our money from playing in position? For example if I am on button with 78s I would rather raise big to build pot so I can outplay villain in position and take down bigger pot when they miss and c/f flop.

A general concept that applies to almost every spot in poker:

The more often a certain action is for value, the larger you want to make it. The more often a certain action is as a bluff, the smaller you want to make it. If it's obvious we have a strong hand, we might as well make it larger to price out draws etc, and if we're weaker we want to lose less money when we get called. UTG you raise tight, so it's often a value raise, so our size should be larger. On the button we're usually stealing, so we want to make it smaller.

Generalities aside, if we are raising tight from UTG because we're OOP etc, then making it 2.5 allows our opponents to call cheaply with speculative hands that can crack our narrow range and easily outplay in position too. The postflop stacks are also relatively deeper as there's less in the pot, so hands like unimproved AA go down in value and sets/straights go up in value, which increases the value of the hands that are calling us while decreasing the value of the hands we're raising ourselves.

Also on the button, when we raise, we want our opponents to fold. We don't want to get called. You only want to get called if you're raising tight. If your button raising range is so tight that you want to get called, you should loosen up. Against many opponents it's +EV to steal with any 2 cards because they fold so much. If we make it 2.5 and they fold, we win the blinds. If we make it 4 we win the blinds too. If we make it 2.5 and we get 3b we lose 2.5 when we fold, instead of 4. Sure 4 gets slightly more folds, but not enough to compensate for the loss we suffer the fewer times they don't fold.

I have had the mind set that we make the most money on the button. So we want to make money by raising and getting called and then winning the pot post flop when villain misses, rather than just to steal blinds. (I play uNL)

Why is this wrong?

P.S thanks for replying

In HEM, put a filter on facing unopened (filters, edit, untag all the other facing ones), and check your winrate by position. If you take down the blinds 100% of the time from the button and never get called, your winrate will be 150bb/100. Your actual winrate will be lower (unless your sample is too small and you ran good)... That's because you get called or 3b and profit less. Unless your opponents are really bad postflop (like fish callingstations), in which case we want to be playing tighter (as we can't bluff them to win, we need to valuebet and to valuebet you need a hand), and when we're mostly valueraising our raise size should increase again, which increases the callingstation's mistake. At microstakes such a situation (very bad players in the blinds) will occur quite often, so raising larger there is fine. But my series doesn't focus on how to beat fish at uNL. It's geared towards players already beating uNL (or small and even midstakes) with a standard weaktigh "solid" ABC strategy, to help them beat other regulars by deviating from the standard game. At NL100+ the odds of the player in the blind being too tight are much larger than the odds of him being a fish callingstation, so your strategy should be based around that, which is 2.5x.

Time Link to 00:13:25

T9s on JT6r2 board

you said its a good spot to 2barel or c/c but I dont understand why you would do that.

my thought:
bb is a fish so he will call light preflop obv and on the flop. So cbetting the flop for value vs him is good because he can call worst Tx, 6x, 77,88,99, 89, Q9.
Once he called the flop, I dont think passive vilain will bluff a lot after checked to so why are you c/cing?
And you said that with AT here, you would 2barel but again, I dont see lots of worst hands that call turn and the 2barel doesnt fold better hand imo..

Can you explain me why a 2nd barel is good here?

T9s on JT6r2 board

you said its a good spot to 2barel or c/c but I dont understand why you would do that.

my thought:
bb is a fish so he will call light preflop obv and on the flop. So cbetting the flop for value vs him is good because he can call worst Tx, 6x, 77,88,99, 89, Q9.
Once he called the flop, I dont think passive vilain will bluff a lot after checked to so why are you c/cing?
And you said that with AT here, you would 2barel but again, I dont see lots of worst hands that call turn and the 2barel doesnt fold better hand imo..

Can you explain me why a 2nd barel is good here?

If I double barrel 2nd pair, I'll bet like 50% pot. Maybe even 40%. Fish won't fold any pair to it, and will also keep calling any draw (AQ KQ K9 Q9 98 87). You're definitely ahead of their callingranges in those spots. The drawier the flop, the better the bet becomes. c/c is good to let him bluff his draws and A high calls etc. I can't remember the session but when I looked at the hand in the video I heard myself saying I had a read on the guy that he autobets (or vbets razor thin), so he'd likely be betting any pair when checked to, which makes a c/c good as he'll bet 6x and 88 etc.

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96s on table 3:

You said you should have bet the flop 4ways

why do you want to bet it ? I mean there is 3 other players in the pot so you will get a call often in this spot and I dont think people will call with worst here a lot. AT-T8 are possible, a better 9 also.. What would you do on the turn after get called on the flop? are you betting again for value/protection or ck back to try to get to showdown ?

96s on table 3:

You said you should have bet the flop 4ways

why do you want to bet it ? I mean there is 3 other players in the pot so you will get a call often in this spot and I dont think people will call with worst here a lot. AT-T8 are possible, a better 9 also.. What would you do on the turn after get called on the flop? are you betting again for value/protection or ck back to try to get to showdown ?

The video is really old so I don't remember my reads or anything, but if I bet there I'm betting around half or 1/3rd pot, just to fold out random overcards etc. Whether I'll continue on the turn depends on the action and the turncard. I'll probably end up 3barreling quite a bit if I feel they show weakness.

If I had good reasons to think button would autobet when checked to, checking is far superior though. But BU might be more straight forward in a multiway pot than HU.

"Shit(timebank). Oh now I have the nuts!" LMAO. You need to teach me that one!

Time Link to 00:54:56

hi when you 4 bet with q8 off if you was in villians position with the ak,how would have you played the hand,would have done anything differently then he did in the hand?

excellent

wow watching this now, can`t believe how terrible players were back then.

Time Link to 00:09:33

I think c/c turn here with 46dd is better or shove river on all cards except a 8 and all spades (except 6 of spades) because his range has pbb a lot of busted draws/4x/55-77-8x,56,67,9T,TJ and I don't think he will fold something he didnt fold on flop on the turn.

Great video! I definitely prefer the 4 tabling format and seeing your true game as apposed to playing certain hands just "to get into spots". Thx