Poker Video: MTT/SNG by DJ Sensei (Mid Stakes)

Time Link to 00:07:24

Now can we profitable call a shove in a tourney like this early if we had the nut flush draw and top pair. Ex. if the J was a spade and the 9 was a diamond instead.

Is this video messed up or is it just me? On the bottom tables, there is some kind of distortion and I cannot see stack sizes. Is anyone else having this problem?

No Problems for me. Nice vid! Like the format , Thanks

Is this video messed up or is it just me? On the bottom tables, there is some kind of distortion and I cannot see stack sizes. Is anyone else having this problem?

Hey Satori how you been? Moved up in stakes? Hope you are running. Sorry for thread hijack.

the AJ hand where german over shoves (idk how to time line comment) im insta calling. i play 26$ MTTs regulary and ur eq is soooo good vs his range. he is doing it more w/ draws, KJ than sets. i think that was a v bad fold

Time Link to 01:04:31

This guy could have KT (of diamonds or not) for sure and be slowplaying the turn so I disagree that there's only A4 in his river raising range. In fact I don't think he has A4 ever since he just calls like Vanessa talked about earlier (flatting 3rd nuts to a 1/10th pot bet) but these goons slowplay the weirdest hands all the time and he could definitely show up with KT, 22 or something here if he raised the river.

Also I don't think a 50/5 bluffraises after we c/r small, bet turn and bet river...

ED- nevermind Dan covered what I said after that

sorry man, but this video is just a pain...
it's very hard to concentrate and listen to you as every thought u have
needs like 5 minutes until get it to words..

I like hte format but I would like you to be more prepared for the stuff your gonna talk about and don'T switch the topics so frequently...

just watched the first 20 minutes thought, maybe its better afterwards...

uhm, you know...

I like hte format but I would like you to be more prepared for the stuff your gonna talk about and don'T switch the topics so frequently...

You are aware this is a sweat video for the first part, right? As in, the tournaments are running live? As in, how the hell do you prepare for stuff you're going to talk about when you have no idea what hands and situations will come up? How do you not switch topics when every 30 seconds you have new hands and new situations?

You want preparation and focus on topics, try a theory video, not a sweat.

yes i am aware..

why so offensive? just speaking my mind,..

well ok, maybe it's just me but I get confused with him changing the topics so often, I agree in sweat sessions there come up situation which my distract from the talk he was about to give but he could still somehow talk the other thing over and get back
to the occuring situation or something..

or at least not switch topics that often, my head goes like, yeah left, uhm, no right, oh no no left... oh no right...

Even against a range including all the KJ combo's we're still only flipping with AJ:
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

20,790 games 0.001 secs 20,790,000 games/sec

Board: Jd 9h 5d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.754% 47.50% 00.25% 9875 53.00 { AdJh }
Hand 1: 52.246% 51.99% 00.25% 10809 53.00 { 99, 55, KdQd, KJs, KdTd, QdTd, J9s, Td9d, 9d8d, KJo }


Against a range without KJ, we're about always behind, even when not including the sets which he will often raise smaller i gues.

Now in the discussion with vanessa also AJ without the diamand was mentioned and that it'd get close then, but it doesnt change much really, I am still including KJ in his range here so we're looking at a somewhat best case scenario (unless we take the sets out of his range ofcourse)

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

28,710 games 0.001 secs 28,710,000 games/sec

Board: Jd 9h 5d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.266% 50.09% 00.18% 14381 50.50 { AhJs }
Hand 1: 49.734% 49.56% 00.18% 14228 50.50 { 99, 55, AdQd, AdTd, Ad9d, Ad8d, Ad7d, Ad6d, Ad4d, Ad3d, Ad2d, KdQd, KJs, KdTd, QdTd, J9s, Td9d, 9d8d, KJo }

so we gain only 3% equity in this scenario...

We really need to be up against a range that includes KJ but not includes sets and J9 to be calling here....

good vid btw

yes i am aware..

why so offensive? just speaking my mind,..

well ok, maybe it's just me but I get confused with him changing the topics so often, I agree in sweat sessions there come up situation which my distract from the talk he was about to give but he could still somehow talk the other thing over and get back
to the occuring situation or something..

or at least not switch topics that often, my head goes like, yeah left, uhm, no right, oh no no left... oh no right...

We crafted this series with both live sweats and detailed replayer analysis for exactly this reason. Live sweats are great for putting yourself in all sorts of situations and being able to discuss each of them, but it can be tough to maintain focus on both the tables you're playing and the commentary you're presenting. With the replayer analysis we're able to go back over some of the more interesting hands and get more in-depth with important concepts.

Also, in all of the future episodes Luke will have someone else (or several someone elses!) helping out with the live commentary as well as the replayer analysis, so it should be a little more focused.

iweargoggles - 27 mins in, yr open with KQ suited UTG and c bet on that board - why did you open UTG with that in the first place? Seems like the guy was floating you imo

That intro is crazy!

That intro is crazy!

I thought it was just me that had an epileptic fit

lol the 'ummm...i have no words' moment was golden

goggles

Time Link to 00:00:20

When you fold the AJ to the shove, you say that in lower-stakes buy-ins, a player is much less likely to shove a draw. However, this gives you very large equity against his made hand range (KJ, QJ, JT) "protecting" against a draw-heavy board. I also think that his made hands that crush you are decreased in frequency because very few people shove a set like that, even on the dangerous board. AA-QQ is also less likely because at the 10-20 level, very few people will flat in the CO vs. a HJ raise because they are legitimately worried about a multi-way pot as well as allowing unfavorable Stack/Pot ratios (even if they do not understand the EXACT concept).

The only thing I dislike about Pokerstove is that it weights every hand as equally likely. Against an unknown in a $26 trny, I think the chances of a set are decreased and the addition of KJ, QJ, JT are increased. Since equity is roughly 50% with an overlay vs. a range that includes every set being shoved and QJ-JT NEVER in range, I feel that this is a quick call.

Time Link to 00:31:59

I often limp the KcQc behind as well, but I often like to raise because villain frequently has a middle pair in this spot when he is playing 17/12. If this is the case, you will frequently take down a pot unimproved vs. a hand that still beats you. Second, even if he does call your C-bet with a set, he will often check the turn, giving plenty of backdoor straight and flush draws good value. I just feel his implied odds are quite low against your hand and you rate to haave pretty good Chip EV.

Furthermore, if he is limping a monster, you better define the hand and avoid ad situations on H-high and Q-high flops given your relative stacks.

iweargoggles - 27 mins in, yr open with KQ suited UTG and c bet on that board - why did you open UTG with that in the first place? Seems like the guy was floating you imo

I think a raise is fine there considering that it was the warmup.

And I hate to be brief but I don't think very many players will flat my bet with 25BBs and pure float me. There really aren't enough combinations of things he's flatting preflop to call with that I beat on the turn anyways. For instance, I think he is far more likely to call the flop with AQ, AJ, AT than JQ, JT, KJ, etc. The aces have some showdown value whereas the others of course do not.

Floating requires a bit more history imo and I don't think we can count on random players doing it when none of their preflop range even has a gutshot.

The only thing I dislike about Pokerstove is that it weights every hand as equally likely. Against an unknown in a $26 trny, I think the chances of a set are decreased and the addition of KJ, QJ, JT are increased. Since equity is roughly 50% with an overlay vs. a range that includes every set being shoved and QJ-JT NEVER in range, I feel that this is a quick call.

It does? So it weighs KQo and 33 equally likely on 334?

I often limp the KcQc behind as well, but I often like to raise because villain frequently has a middle pair in this spot when he is playing 17/12. If this is the case, you will frequently take down a pot unimproved vs. a hand that still beats you. Second, even if he does call your C-bet with a set, he will often check the turn, giving plenty of backdoor straight and flush draws good value. I just feel his implied odds are quite low against your hand and you rate to haave pretty good Chip EV.

Furthermore, if he is limping a monster, you better define the hand and avoid ad situations on H-high and Q-high flops given your relative stacks.

I guess I should've explained that YoungSupremacy is good, so he isn't limp/calling with a lot of the range I want him to.

So with regards to the AJ hand, I'm going with some different assumptions than the rest of you.

1) I think fish like to "protect" their super super strong hands vs. draws.
2) I think fish want to hit their draw before they raise with it (unless it is a really, really nutted draw).
3) I think fish see hands like TPMK as exactly what they are--medium strength made hands. They'd rather callcalllcallcallcallcalllcall with those hands than raise them.

I'm not saying I FULLY assume all of these are true for every player in every hand, but I guess I sort of use it as a guideline when people take fishy lines.

Also, I think it is a close spot regardless which means I usually end up folding.

when vanessa said "neoclassical economic approach to poker" I lost my train of thought.

I loved the content, but I would have a bit of technical nitpicking about the video. Could you try to limit vertical resolution to maximum of 1080? There are a bit of problems playing back videos that exceed FullHD resolutions. Would make it a bit easier for me to watch the next episode.

It does? So it weighs KQo and 33 equally likely on 334?

Looked it up to be sure - no it doesn't, PokerStove is still the stone cold nuts.

Time Link to 00:51:42

This early in the tourney, with all the people that have sat'd in..can we not put the 9d10d, 10dJx, QdJ and the KdJ in his range? There are so many weak players in the field at this point who are shipping what could be a standard cbet.

edit-didn't read the above comments, didn't know they were there..new here.

But, I still feel that the fish love to protect those hands against draws..they are used to being drawn out on by "donks" and get tired of it so the over protect their made hands.

I didn't really like the second part of the video with the replayer.

I feel like Luke was drowned out by the other two who albeit are very talented poker players, have little experience (to my knowledge) playing masses of online tournaments. Despite the fact poker is poker, a lot of the spots that Luke got into play very differently in a tournament than they would in a cash game and his decisions are based on having played many similar situations.

Time Link to 00:10:49

(Upper right tourney) Why don't you c-bet that flop w/10 10? Do we just assume with 2 overs that villain has us beat? Or is it too early in the tourney to fight for this pot?

when vanessa said "neoclassical economic approach to poker" I lost my train of thought.

I gotta remember to use that phrase next time I want to sound like I know something.

Time Link to 00:18:31

That blocking bet is awesome and I think maximizes value brilliantly against this villain type. I have been experimenting with it before I saw this video and I'm happy to see it pop up here. Basically only works against stations that will never be the type to give you difficult showdowns. Neve

Time: 05:50 in the video
On the first level with 100+ BB,
you fold J9o on the button, after one limper.
Isn't this a nice hand to call with on the botton,
when the stacks are so deep?

hanksfor the post

very nice

you do coaching?

Time Link to 00:15:06

Late position raise with K9o early in a tournament? Blind stealing or just bored?

you do coaching?

I know, I'm surprised too!

Late position raise with K9o early in a tournament? Blind stealing or just bored?

We sometimes do things for the video.

Arguments can be made for building an image or something too. K9s is definitely a profitable open of course.

Funny thing about saying that the Great Vanessa is not a tournament player I have signed in to watch her cause i think she is one of the best tournament players in the entire world! Thank you Vanessa for huge inspirations to play more free style!

So with regards to the AJ hand, I'm going with some different assumptions than the rest of you.

1) I think fish like to "protect" their super super strong hands vs. draws.
2) I think fish want to hit their draw before they raise with it (unless it is a really, really nutted draw).
3) I think fish see hands like TPMK as exactly what they are--medium strength made hands. They'd rather callcalllcallcallcallcalllcall with those hands than raise them.

I'm not saying I FULLY assume all of these are true for every player in every hand, but I guess I sort of use it as a guideline when people take fishy lines.

Also, I think it is a close spot regardless which means I usually end up folding.

Interesting to hear your thought process when you talk about your 200 % equity in the tournament, presumably which most of the viewers DON'T HAVE, so doesn't that mean many of us should call if we feel it's reasonably +CEV? I have a decent amount of experience in low stakes MTTs and I just find too often my opponents turn over something I never could have imagined in these spots so I'm generally apt to call.

I'm new to DC but in most of the stuff I've watched so far, it seems the host goes on and on about how good he or she is postflop and therefore shouldn't get into marginal showdown situations, which it seems is so detached from the average viewer. I'm already a pretty tight player but I'm almost afraid to watch more, that I'll be influenced to become even tighter!!

thank you very illuminating analysis...

Even against a range including all the KJ combo's we're still only flipping with AJ:
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

20,790 games 0.001 secs 20,790,000 games/sec

Board: Jd 9h 5d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.754% 47.50% 00.25% 9875 53.00 { AdJh }
Hand 1: 52.246% 51.99% 00.25% 10809 53.00 { 99, 55, KdQd, KJs, KdTd, QdTd, J9s, Td9d, 9d8d, KJo }


Against a range without KJ, we're about always behind, even when not including the sets which he will often raise smaller i gues.

Now in the discussion with vanessa also AJ without the diamand was mentioned and that it'd get close then, but it doesnt change much really, I am still including KJ in his range here so we're looking at a somewhat best case scenario (unless we take the sets out of his range ofcourse)

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

28,710 games 0.001 secs 28,710,000 games/sec

Board: Jd 9h 5d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.266% 50.09% 00.18% 14381 50.50 { AhJs }
Hand 1: 49.734% 49.56% 00.18% 14228 50.50 { 99, 55, AdQd, AdTd, Ad9d, Ad8d, Ad7d, Ad6d, Ad4d, Ad3d, Ad2d, KdQd, KJs, KdTd, QdTd, J9s, Td9d, 9d8d, KJo }

so we gain only 3% equity in this scenario...

We really need to be up against a range that includes KJ but not includes sets and J9 to be calling here....

good vid btw

Loved this vid with this format. Thanks guys I feel like I am learning something new every day.I agree about signing up because of Vanessa as I think she is one of the best around. gl to her in future tournaments...