Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by DosXX (High Stakes)

Very good video; thanks for making it! One small suggestion I'd make is to use a 4 color deck in future vids you make.

I don't have any questions or comments because you explained your reasoning pretty well to begin with.

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Wow, folding 910o here seems way too tight specially against TLW.

Very good video; thanks for making it! One small suggestion I'd make is to use a 4 color deck in future vids you make.

I don't have any questions or comments because you explained your reasoning pretty well to begin with.

Gah! I totally meant to use a 4 color deck, sorry folks!

Wow, folding 910o here seems way too tight specially against TLW.

I'm not sure if my logic came across right in the video, but basically a player like TLW is one of the worst to play marginal hands out of position.

1) He raises a wide range UTG, which actually hurts our equity compared to a player who doesn't raise things like JT/J9 type stuff.
2) He makes our life miserable by getting thin value.
3) He makes our life miserable by bluffing a lot.
4) He makes out life miserable because he is showdown bound.

I tend to play fairly tight against a player like TLW, especially when he is raising UTG in a 5-6 handed game, I don't think we are losing too much value.

The times I look to really open up my range are in position and against poor playing players. This situation is pretty much the opposite.

I really disagree with your reasoning, i think hes fairly easy to play against just for those reasons. Sure our semibluffs go down in fold equity, but our implied odds for making hands are huge imo. He also bluffs a ton, which kinda goes both ways in favour of calling, but i have little problems calling down with a somewhat wide range.

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excellent points about late position isolation plays.

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Could you explain your reasoning why KTo would be an open UTG under most table conditions? It seems everything I have learned up to this point it is a standard fold.

Has this been a winning play for you?

Thanks.

Could you explain your reasoning why KTo would be an open UTG under most table conditions? It seems everything I have learned up to this point it is a standard fold.

Has this been a winning play for you?

Thanks.

I'd like to ask the same question. I sometimes open KTo when the blinds are HUGE fishes and everyone is on the tight side behind me. And 3bet KJo vs utg from the HJ? I think it's a -EV move against most regs, especially against a 24/18 guy. I also dislike the resteal from SB with a3o.

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So if this player was a standard TAG type how would you play this hand post flop?

Great video,Thanks

Could you explain your reasoning why KTo would be an open UTG under most table conditions? It seems everything I have learned up to this point it is a standard fold.

Has this been a winning play for you?

Thanks.

My reasoning is that this is a strong enough hand with enough equity when 3 bet/coldcalled/or the blinds play that I open it. I was curious after you asked the question so I looked in my database. You can see the results of opening K9, KT, and KJ offsuit 3 seats off the button for all my hands. Most are 5/10+. The reason VPIP isn't close to 100 is that a lot of my hands are full ring where these would get folded if someone opens before us.

http://yfrog.com/mtktocapturej

I know the sample is small for individual hands, but that's why I included the KJ and K9, so at least we can see if our results make some sense.

I'd like to ask the same question. I sometimes open KTo when the blinds are HUGE fishes and everyone is on the tight side behind me. And 3bet KJo vs utg from the HJ? I think it's a -EV move against most regs, especially against a 24/18 guy. I also dislike the resteal from SB with a3o.

See my post above for KTo opening UTG. I think the 3bet is close. My reasoning at the time was that if this player was actually 24/18, I would fold, but since most players at these levels don't play that tight, I was working on the assumption that he would end up at about 28/22 or so, which makes my open more defensible. Certainly against some regs it is a very easy 3bet, so I don't think I would go so far to say that against most regs it is -EV. In this specific instance maybe, but folding KJo against regs who play 35/27 is probably a mistake.

The A3o hand is probably -EV hot/cold equity wise. But, the stars were pretty much aligned for me at that table to reisolate wide. The button had been playing extremely fit/fold, so my postflop fold equity is high and I don't worry as much about folding the best hand post flop. And, the loose open limper has to worry about the button behind him when he makes flop and turn peels, so will tighten up as well.

So if this player was a standard TAG type how would you play this hand post flop?

Good question. Probably c/r the flop and go from there. He will have strong ace highs and smaller pairs enough to call me down, especially with the presence of the flush draw. If I get raised on the turn I would be calling the turn to protect against a FSD raise (this board is one I see people FSD raise more often than others) and make a decision on the river, sometimes folding and sometimes calling.

My reasoning is that this is a strong enough hand with enough equity when 3 bet/coldcalled/or the blinds play that I open it. I was curious after you asked the question so I looked in my database. You can see the results of opening K9, KT, and KJ offsuit 3 seats off the button for all my hands. Most are 5/10+. The reason VPIP isn't close to 100 is that a lot of my hands are full ring where these would get folded if someone opens before us.

http://yfrog.com/mtktocapturej

I know the sample is small for individual hands, but that's why I included the KJ and K9, so at least we can see if our results make some sense.

NinaWilliams too wonders if it is profitable to open KTo UTG in a 6max game and folds it in his last Ghost vid.

After looking at your stats, I somehow couldn't believe it. 12BB/hand seemed a little too high. So I filtered for myself. I usually don't open KTo UTG, but for the tiny sample when I did (21 times in about 100k hands), I won 0.14BB/hand in soft lowstakes games. With AA I won 3.19BB/hand. My filter reads: "Position = 3 AND Hole Cards: AA, KJo, KTo, K9o AND Raise First In" (in PT3).

So I suspect you either can see holecards or something is with the filter. Or the fullring hands skewed the results. Can you please refilter for raising KTo UTG for 6max only?

So, you are right, my filter was set for =>3, which certainly affected the results. My filter is now set for: 6 players, position =3, and raise first in.

http://yfrog.com/5yktoutgj

Also, the stat is BB/100 hands, not BB/hand. It's in $/hand, though.

Also, sample size for the number of trials needed for one individual hand like that - I expect it would take much longer to converge.

So, you are right, my filter was set for =>3, which certainly affected the results. My filter is now set for: 6 players, position =3, and raise first in.

http://yfrog.com/5yktoutgj

Also, the stat is BB/100 hands, not BB/hand. It's in $/hand, though.

Sorry, my bad. Mixed it up because I use BB/hand. So that means you average 0.066BB/hand with KTo UTG 6max. Perhaps some other guys could share their experience with this situation?

My reasoning is that this is a strong enough hand with enough equity when 3 bet/coldcalled/or the blinds play that I open it. I was curious after you asked the question so I looked in my database. You can see the results of opening K9, KT, and KJ offsuit 3 seats off the button for all my hands. Most are 5/10+. The reason VPIP isn't close to 100 is that a lot of my hands are full ring where these would get folded if someone opens before us.

http://yfrog.com/mtktocapturej

I know the sample is small for individual hands, but that's why I included the KJ and K9, so at least we can see if our results make some sense.

I think the difference between the games you play in and the games I play in is that if I raise KTo UTG, it could easily be cc by two maybe 3 players. I will often be in mw pots with K high not a great kicker OOP.

Also, the rake is much higher at the lower limits.

That being said, I have been studying a lot of winning players and a common denominator is that they mostly seem to be 30+ VPP. Perhaps playing more hands like these put them in more tough spots and therefore given them more opportunities to learn and refine there game.

I would be curious to see your HJ stats with KTo. It seems when somebody raises UTG it is a tight range, but when they open in the HJ its almost like they are in steal position suddenly. I am curious if you get played back at more from this spot and perhaps have a lower win rate.

Thanks for your reply..It's been a great Vid.

One more thing that I often discuss with students who I suggest to open up their range a little bit. We are not only opening up our preflop range because there are additional +EV hands, but we are widening our ranges in our opponents minds and they will make worse decisions against our collective ranges, which gives our stronger hands an even bigger winrate.

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With an aggressive player to your left like Tuan, how do you adjust your preflop open range? In this spot, for instance, I would fold the K8o. I would also eliminate some of the smaller suited hands.

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I don't think he folds QJ, TJ, QT often enough on the turn. How about check calling turn and check folding river?

I just feel that when you bet the turn and check the river, even a passive player like him takes a shot on the river with his busted straight draws and flush draws.

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Is this really a peel?

Is this really a peel?

I think not, the 5 really isnt that good for you, and if you pair up when the flushdraw fills you sometimes are dead and sometimes they have redraws if you moved ahead. I just fold the flop tbh.

With an aggressive player to your left like Tuan, how do you adjust your preflop open range? In this spot, for instance, I would fold the K8o. I would also eliminate some of the smaller suited hands.

I would take out some hands definitely, probably the ones that don't have as much showdown value. I think opening K8o is probably a mistake there.

I don't think he folds QJ, TJ, QT often enough on the turn. How about check calling turn and check folding river?

I just feel that when you bet the turn and check the river, even a passive player like him takes a shot on the river with his busted straight draws and flush draws.

I don't think your plan to check/call and check/fold makes a lot of sense if you think he is going to bluff when you bet and check/call. If anything, betting the turn would give him less of a reason to bluff the river than if we check the turn.

But, I think that's mostly moot, because I am confident that players don't bet QJ/QT/JT on the river when we check.

I think not, the 5 really isnt that good for you, and if you pair up when the flushdraw fills you sometimes are dead and sometimes they have redraws if you moved ahead. I just fold the flop tbh.

Looking back I knew it was close and I think it should probably be a fold, for the reasons mentioned.

I don't think your plan to check/call and check/fold makes a lot of sense if you think he is going to bluff when you bet and check/call. If anything, betting the turn would give him less of a reason to bluff the river than if we check the turn.

But, I think that's mostly moot, because I am confident that players don't bet QJ/QT/JT on the river when we check.

Here's the hand if people want to discuss but can't review the video right away:
Utg (good laggy-tag) raises, CO (reason the game is going, pretty passive) cold calls, folded to DXX in the BB who 3bets with 88, call, call.

Flop: KA5

DXX bets, CO calls

Turn: KA52

DXX checks, and CO bets

I think we're leaving money on the table if we fold after he takes one shot at this pot, because there's just too many draws out there. I would still like to be convinced if I'm wrong, but I think both lines bet turn c/c river, and c/c turn c/f river are superior. The latter because he'd have to be bluffing twice, which is far less likely. In a relatively big pot, everyone will take one shot at it. There's just too many possible straight and flush draws out there.

Nice vid mate

You defend 77 in the BB vs BTN open, flop is JJ9 or something and you c/c

I think you mentioned later on that you werent 100% happy with how you played this.

I think its pretty important to cr this flop given the weak high card hands he can have like Q7, K5 etc etc that can counterfeit us.

Especially seeing you chose not to 3bet preflop.

I agree it sucks when he calls our cr and pops the turn but i think we are just too easy to play against and lose to much value with hands like this.

Anyway, you play good!!

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What hand do you put your opponent right now ? Isn't it better to check/call and induce bluff from possible flush Draw or KQ ? This hand seems similiar to your river bet with 510 when you were crushed against 78 full house. I also have questions to that 510. You think you played good that hand ? Shouldnt you play there Check/Call ?