Poker Video: Pot-Limit Omaha by michaelsc (Micro/Small Stakes)

great vid. michaelsc!!!!
learned alot

keep em coming

Great video, it addresses a lot of the stuff an intermediate/beginner plo player needs help with. I did accidentally give this 4 stars instead of 5, but that was a misclick.

Keep 'em coming imo.

Great video, it addresses a lot of the stuff an intermediate/beginner plo player needs help with. I did accidentally give this 4 stars instead of 5, but that was a misclick.

Keep 'em coming imo.

You can always adjust your rating later.

Looking forward to watching this one.

Rob

I can only agree, I have enjoyed every single of your videos so far and learned a lot.

I Know DC loves their "series" format, but I for one love the Ghost vids, and this one is no exception. Nice job Michael.

I think it is one of the best video for small stake I have see :-)

Great vid.
What I would like to see in a future video is a review of hands played oop.
For example when to double barrel based on stats, board texture and hand reading.
Or how to play AAxx when getting 3bet but are deep.
And maybe show some plays that you can make oop.

I play .5/1 and 1/2 and when I starting watching your earlier videos, I kept thinking that you were making far far too aggressive bets and loose calls for these stakes (especially on the end), but the more I watch the more I appreciate how difficult it must be to play against a player like you. While I still haven't been able to open it up quite as much as you do, I have found a few spots where I can implement some of your plays, and it has really helped. Another thing that I have really enjoyed about your style is how your aggression leads to such interesting spots, and provides so many good thinking opportunities (much in the same vein as Vanessa's vids), and while I don't always agree with everything it allows me to get a ton out of your videos. Thanks Michael, I really look forward to your future videos.

Great video - awsome background!

This hit the spot. Thank you.

Great video. I'm a 100PLO reg at FTP so this was perfect for me. Same again please!

Great video

I really appreciate your attitude of showing us how you think the game can be beat and how we "should" be playing these stakes and not just how you pound on small stakes players because you have a bigger roll. I took some of the same attitude and playing style to my stakes at 25plo with good results. I think it's a little different at the microstakes since players call a little more, over value hands more, misread hands more and somehow at the same time fold too much and play scared. We just have to be aware of who is doing what and own them accordingly.

At 34min you check raise bluff the river after playing the hand passively. I'm wondering if a smaller amount accomplishes the same thing, like 45 or even less. Does he fold any less often when we raise to a smaller amount? I think we can save 10-15 so we save a little the times he does call. If he folds with the same frequency then we save a good amount for the times he calls. Is this valid logic or does it really matter enough to worry about? I'm a noob, so let me know.

At about 41 min. you play the 9TJQ and the flop comes AKx 2tone. The villain 3bet pre and you have him pretty squarely on AA. You mentioned looking back to that hand and maybe doing some math and putting it in the forum. Any interest in doing that?

Great video

At 34min you check raise bluff the river after playing the hand passively. I'm wondering if a smaller amount accomplishes the same thing, like 45 or even less. Does he fold any less often when we raise to a smaller amount? I think we can save 10-15 so we save a little the times he does call. If he folds with the same frequency then we save a good amount for the times he calls. Is this valid logic or does it really matter enough to worry about? I'm a noob, so let me know.

At about 41 min. you play the 9TJQ and the flop comes AKx 2tone. The villain 3bet pre and you have him pretty squarely on AA. You mentioned looking back to that hand and maybe doing some math and putting it in the forum. Any interest in doing that?

Sorry for taking so long rvtsteve, but I was in Costa Rica for the last week.

The most important thing is having your c/r bluffs the same size as when you have it. The only reason I like to make it a little bit bigger is because if the player isn't paying attention to your bet sizes in general then he might look you up a little weaker than normal if you c/r is much smaller than pot. Of course if he has a 2nd or 3rd nuts then he might look you up anyways, but I think it's important to look as strong as possible to get medium strength hands out of there.

I will put the other hand on the plo forum soon. I definitely think it will be helpful to find out the math on that hand.

I think your call at 38min on the 499JA is spewy against this passive guy; I don't recall he made any big bet up to then, and I doubt he would peel twice on this board and make a river PSB as a bluff, since there are almost no missed draws in his range, while some kind of overpair would just take a showdown in my opinion.

At 45min, your 3bet call OOP with AK84ss doesn't look great either. You did say it was a gamble, but I believe you just took the worst of it with no real gain.

Revisiting this video as I'm moving up into the ss and from the first viewing I've found this vid really informative and inspiring.

After watching the Haj School ep.1 with WoT I'm approaching my video watching totally differently than I did before, improvements imo. For example i took ~2hrs to watch and take 2pages of notes (with plenty I missed I'm sure). Sick video. If anyone wants to break it down or talk about some of the spots with me shoot me a PM.

I'll post a couple spots/questions from my notes in the timeline, (awesome feature btw.)

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Bottom left you flop second nut flush and cbet, obv. for value and I assume because you're cbetting your entire range here, correct?

You then check back the turn and I assume you are doing this with all of your air as well. Since you check to induce river action how often are you bluff raising the same action on the river here? Are you almost always just shutting down with air since people play fairly straight forward on monotone flops? At what point are we just calling the river instead of raising the river for value (or as a bluff) Thi, Jhi flush? How often do you expect a small or even mid-stakes reg to fold a middle flush here in villains spot? I suppose the more often you are raising for value here the better it becomes to raise a bluff as well, but I guess you would need some reads for that. If we have a naked A this seems like it could be a good line and spot for a naked A bluff raise.

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Upper Left:

I assume if he check/shoves the turn here we're pretty much toast as his range has to be QJ, or air I suppose, but getting just 2:1 and blockers to our own boat outs and without a specific read I would find a fold.

My question is, what are we trying to get value from here? What are we protecting our hand from that isn't already there? Not a lot of 2 pair + FD type combos since we have so many of the pairs and the naked Ad. Is checking back the turn ever good for pot control and to induce action on the river?

Bottom left you flop second nut flush and cbet, obv. for value and I assume because you're cbetting your entire range here, correct?

You then check back the turn and I assume you are doing this with all of your air as well. Since you check to induce river action how often are you bluff raising the same action on the river here? Are you almost always just shutting down with air since people play fairly straight forward on monotone flops? At what point are we just calling the river instead of raising the river for value (or as a bluff) Thi, Jhi flush? How often do you expect a small or even mid-stakes reg to fold a middle flush here in villains spot? I suppose the more often you are raising for value here the better it becomes to raise a bluff as well, but I guess you would need some reads for that. If we have a naked A this seems like it could be a good line and spot for a naked A bluff raise.

Yes I'm cbetting entire range on flop and to build the pot. I also check the turn with air and with various flushes. As for bluffing the river after checking the turn, I'm not doing it a ton, but with high blockers I will do it a solid amount. I would be suprised to get 3-bet bluffed by a naked ace of of diamonds against most 1/2 players so I rather raise/fold the river for value. I think mixing up betting the turn and checking it back is good in this spot. It's just good for your overall image so players can't think they can take the pot down every time you check back in position. If the player is very cally then you might want to bet the turn and river for value, but if they are calling light than checking back turn will almost always induce a bet from opponent. It's also definitely a pretty good line for a naked ace bluff, but you still might get snapped by 2nd and 3rd nut flushes. As for if having a ten or jack flush then I would most always be just calling the river unless the river bet looks weak and would raise for value.

Upper Left:

I assume if he check/shoves the turn here we're pretty much toast as his range has to be QJ, or air I suppose, but getting just 2:1 and blockers to our own boat outs and without a specific read I would find a fold.

My question is, what are we trying to get value from here? What are we protecting our hand from that isn't already there? Not a lot of 2 pair + FD type combos since we have so many of the pairs and the naked Ad. Is checking back the turn ever good for pot control and to induce action on the river?

Ya I can find a fold there most of the times, too. The bet is protecting my hand against a backdoor fd and a lower wrap. I think it's fine to check back turn at times here and try to induce a bluff he if he bricks river. The only problem is that I don't see him bluff any 2 pair combo so we can build the pot with a bet if he has a 2 two or top pair with a draw and he c/c the turn. Then we can decide whether or not the bet the river on certain cards if he checks to us. I also hate giving a free card to my opponent if I think they will either c/f or c/c.

your terminology is constantly off. kinda annoying.

startrak, I'm pretty sure these guys appreciate all the construcive feedback that they can get. That said, I think it goes a lot further when it's respectfully and thoroughly explained. It's a good idea to give examples or time stamps for any feedback so that it's easier to know what exactly you are talking about and if there is any way to address your concerns.

I think these guys do a good job at producing videos and teaching poker, that's why we pay for memberships. I think comments like yours can either be better said or not said at all.

ok, point taken. Michael, you say stuff like; im going to check it back here, when youre first to act. you call a 3bet a 4bet, im going to check/call when youre in fact checking it back. its not hard to understand during the hand, but when you use the same language in hypothetical spots it gets a little difficult.

Great vid...How did you get the background for FT?

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QQK7 otb is this a standard fold in plo?

^^ Top right table.

It's really not a strong hand. It's rainbow and queens are not a super strong pair. Mainly though RAINBOW HANDS SUCK!

That said you could argue a limp behind OTB. I wouldn't be raising it though based solely on hand strength.

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spew call