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Ghost: jk3a (#3) by jk3a

Jk3a continues ghosting as he plays 4 tables of 25nl. He discusses concepts of playing outside the box and beyond hand charts, how do you win after the flop?

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  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 55 minutes long
  • Posted about 3 years ago

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perderai

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Great video!!!

Loved the hero call with TT around 46:00 Wink

Posted over 3 years ago

udownwithvpp

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caderousse

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Loved it! Give this guy a series already!

Posted over 3 years ago

Roogle

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good video but you need to stop running bad :-D

Posted over 3 years ago

Alexandre

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Great video!!!

Loved the hero call with TT around 46:00 Wink



Ya that was great but when one thinks of it, it isn't such a bad call. On such a scary board the only hands a player is valuebetting is straights, flushes and probably flopped trips. There was a chance the guy turned a pair of aces but I don't think anyone will valuebet shove the river with a pair of aces, especially since he can't really have AK/AQ.. But then again the guy was a complete lunatic who spewwed away all his chips to jk3a and the guy next to him (Kilmuschka or something) Smile.

Nice video, the only downside is that I can't stand pokerstars software.. Move to FTP and make a series Smile.

Also, I personally prefer the ghosting videos instead of the ones where audio is added later. I still (as I've stated somewhere on DC before) that a video with live play and added commentary afterwards would be really interesting.
For example, use the live recording until a interesting spot comes up that when you view the video a second time you think you could've played better. Pause the video, add your (new) thoughts and continue with the live commentary.

Posted over 3 years ago

Paracelse

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About the hero call against the fish, i think generally fish don't value bet enough, but they merge their range.
With good hands they try to get to showndown and don't bet becausethey are afraid we have the nuts, and with weak hand with showndown value they bet because they don't know what else to do.
In the TT hands i don't think a fish will value bet an ace or even 2 pair but i think he can very well show up with a J. It's still an easy call though. imo

Posted over 3 years ago

MiheljoX

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ThatDeviant

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Nice.

I fold a lot more than you do to loose-passive players betting on the turn and river. Guess I could increase my winrate by finding some spots to call down with marginal hands.

Posted over 3 years ago

udownwithvpp

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46:42 Good call with TT. Even if he shows up with a better hand there I like calling against that type of villain just because he clearly has fps and against those people I'd hate folding TT on the river the way the hand went down. When he leads out on the flop and you raise him I think he feels pretty obligated to call your raise and bluff any scarecards that come. Still definitely not an easy call, and I wouldn't be thrilled with having to call.

'About the hero call against the fish, i think generally fish don't value bet enough, but they merge their range.'

Paracelse I wouldn't expect anyone to shove a hand like JT-KJ, or even QQ-KK on the river. Against a different type of villain I think the TT is an easy fold, but against most other types of people they're not going to take such a crazy line in the first place.

Posted over 3 years ago

danzasmack

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jay kay three ayyyyyyyyyyyyyy



exactly what I've been trying to say all along.

Posted over 3 years ago

ThatDeviant

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I thought this was an Omaha vid when I looked at the screenshot.

Posted over 3 years ago

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Loved it! Give this guy a series already!



+1

Posted over 3 years ago

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I thought this was an Omaha vid when I looked at the screenshot.




this ^^^^

Posted over 3 years ago

shark_fishin

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wow, what made you call down with the 55 @ 30 mins, that seemed pretty 1337

great vid btw, good job.

Posted over 3 years ago

jk3a

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wow, what made you call down with the 55 @ 30 mins, that seemed pretty 1337

great vid btw, good job.




the b/c - donk line is usually weak. not always obv, but often.

Posted over 3 years ago

oneillsurfer03

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The 88 hand on towards the end in that spot I think if you shove he looks u up given stack sizes. But in my expierience @ these stakes that means he has air or a draw generally. So @ 25nl i am shoving that turn to get value from 7's 66 and flush draws. I think hands that beat u make up a small part of his range.

Posted over 3 years ago

50505

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First video I watched since I became a member. Loved the video. I do like the videos with live comments. That is one of the many reasons that I left CardRunners as they were doing most videos with comments later which brings in to many thoughts, ideas and comments you probably wont do playing live

Posted over 3 years ago

jk3a

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The 88 hand on towards the end in that spot I think if you shove he looks u up given stack sizes. But in my expierience @ these stakes that means he has air or a draw generally. So @ 25nl i am shoving that turn to get value from 7's 66 and flush draws. I think hands that beat u make up a small part of his range.




I think you make a good argument for checking the turn Smile Because if alot of his range is air/draw, we can play the river pretty well depending on what card comes. Like I said in game, shipping the turn is ok, but knowing what's best is tough to say without more reads on his c/r range.

Betting the turn to protect/get value from 7x is not really enough reason to bet imo. He'll have Qx/KK+/Full Houses/99-JJ when we ship the turn too often.

Posted over 3 years ago

ackid

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Jk3a,

Nice vid man.

Can you explain the reasoning behind raising a lesser amount in lp and raising more in ep?

Thanks.

Posted over 3 years ago

Mortimo

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Great video!

Little unethical of that guy to type in "call" in that big pot vs kyrre888, so I would give him a friendly warning, for the future.

Posted over 3 years ago

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Jk3a,

Nice vid man.

Can you explain the reasoning behind raising a lesser amount in lp and raising more in ep?

Thanks.


Not speaking for jk3a obv (nice video btw - enjoyed it) - but betting more in EP because you don't want multiple callers and a multi-way pot...late position you have less people to discourage with marginal hands and you actually don't mind if the SB/BB call with more marginal hands if you can get heads up against them. For example AKs Vs one Random hand PF is about 67% favourite, AKs Vs 3 random hands PF is down to 41%.

Posted over 3 years ago

ClicktyClick

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didnt you overplay the 56s hand in the beginning a bit?

Posted over 3 years ago

Pickaface

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Man I love your playing and teaching style. Please make more micro vids!

Posted about 3 years ago

Trysse

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You sound so Zen man.
I was hovering over my chair the entire vid Smile

Really enjoyed watching!

Posted over 2 years ago

jk3a

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You sound so Zen man.
I was hovering over my chair the entire vid Smile

Really enjoyed watching!



Smile ty

Posted over 2 years ago

Rockhoe14er

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Hey JK3a
Great video i really enjoyed it. I have a question about the TT hand. You say that you really need to evaluate how thinly these fish can value bet. Can you explain this to me. Are you assuming that they really can't value bet and when they take lines such as this that most of their range contains bluffs? So if he had an A he most likely would ck/call the river? I guess i'm just confused what you mean by "how thinly can they value bet"

Thanks again for the video i really enjoyed it.

Posted over 2 years ago

jk3a

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Hey JK3a
Great video i really enjoyed it. I have a question about the TT hand. You say that you really need to evaluate how thinly these fish can value bet. Can you explain this to me. Are you assuming that they really can't value bet and when they take lines such as this that most of their range contains bluffs? So if he had an A he most likely would ck/call the river? I guess i'm just confused what you mean by "how thinly can they value bet"

Thanks again for the video i really enjoyed it.




yea, most of them are terrible value bettors

Posted over 2 years ago

Rockhoe14er

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yea, most of them are terrible value bettors



but in what way are they terrible value betters?

Posted over 2 years ago

jk3a

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but in what way are they terrible value betters?



they check alot of hands they should bet therefore making their value:bluff frequency heavily weighted toward bluff

Posted over 2 years ago

PrinzVonHapunkt

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Time Link to 00:17:59

What if we had 88 here instead?
Would that make any difference, because we are not beating 88 and 99 anymore?

My answer would be that we should do the same thing if the guy is ch/raising here with some broadway hands and draws aswell, because you seem to be so aggressive, and those hands we don't beat anymore are not that big of a part of his range then.

but on the other hand I don't know if the typical microlimit "seminit"-TAG like this one (17/16 with 75 cbet%) will ch/r broadways here, because he will most likely be giving up with them when he checks, because of his high cbet percentage. I think the only thing he could ch/r here is some sort of 2 (only A2s comes to mind, or maybe 22) or 77 so i would actually fold the TT in this example against this opponent, because i don't think he actually cares about Co vs Btn dynamics and just cbets Broadways and draws when he wants to continue in the hand.

to clarify my post a little bit Wink :
The first part is about the scenario you described and the second is describing what is going on in this example.

really great video btw.

Posted about 1 year ago

PrinzVonHapunkt

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Time Link to 00:19:07

a few seconds after this hand you say that if a tight guy ch/r 2 people on this board ...
no real question, just want to follow your thoughts better:
why is the board here a factor for your decisionmaking?
Because a lot of his calling range pf is pocketpairs -> this is lowcard flop -> many sets?
Or because there are no draws that he could have that ch/r here? -> If you don't think that he calls pf with 89 or 45 and that's the other thing - if he would even ch/r those and not ch/c, same thing with flush draws, except maybe something like a broadway Nutflushdraw, and even against that you don't look so good equity-wise.

But then again -> don't you think that a lot of guys donk flops like this that offer some draws into 2 people with their sets, because they want to protect their hand or do you think this board is not drawy enough for that?

Posted about 1 year ago

jk3a

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What if we had 88 here instead?
Would that make any difference, because we are not beating 88 and 99 anymore?

My answer would be that we should do the same thing if the guy is ch/raising here with some broadway hands and draws aswell, because you seem to be so aggressive, and those hands we don't beat anymore are not that big of a part of his range then.

but on the other hand I don't know if the typical microlimit "seminit"-TAG like this one (17/16 with 75 cbet%) will ch/r broadways here, because he will most likely be giving up with them when he checks, because of his high cbet percentage. I think the only thing he could ch/r here is some sort of 2 (only A2s comes to mind, or maybe 22) or 77 so i would actually fold the TT in this example against this opponent, because i don't think he actually cares about Co vs Btn dynamics and just cbets Broadways and draws when he wants to continue in the hand.

to clarify my post a little bit Wink :
The first part is about the scenario you described and the second is describing what is going on in this example.

really great video btw.



after 2 years of hindsight Smile I'll say that getting all in with 88-TT vs a c/r is prob not great. I think it's likely best to call the c/r and fold to most big turn bets on most cards.

Posted about 1 year ago

jk3a

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a few seconds after this hand you say that if a tight guy ch/r 2 people on this board ...
no real question, just want to follow your thoughts better:
why is the board here a factor for your decisionmaking?
Because a lot of his calling range pf is pocketpairs -> this is lowcard flop -> many sets?
Or because there are no draws that he could have that ch/r here? -> If you don't think that he calls pf with 89 or 45 and that's the other thing - if he would even ch/r those and not ch/c, same thing with flush draws, except maybe something like a broadway Nutflushdraw, and even against that you don't look so good equity-wise.

But then again -> don't you think that a lot of guys donk flops like this that offer some draws into 2 people with their sets, because they want to protect their hand or do you think this board is not drawy enough for that?



think the board makes it such that he can have all the sets. the flush draw present certainly gives him some hands that we might beat, but when a guy that tight c/r 2 players, 1 of whom is short, he mostly has the nuts

Posted about 1 year ago

PrinzVonHapunkt

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after 2 years of hindsight I'll say that getting all in with 88-TT vs a c/r is prob not great. I think it's likely best to call the c/r and fold to most big turn bets on most cards.



thanks very much for your replies on this old thread Wink

Am I right to think that you would call here, because a raise / shove would just fold out his overcards and maybe some hands we beat while obviously keeping his stronger hands in and you would fold to the big turn bet, because most guys will not follow through with a second barrel there with air/draws after you bet and called the ch/r?

What do you think does he ch/r here at all? I just can't come up with a reasonable range for him.
My assumption would be some Broadways as well as FDs and maybe A2s and 77.

Posted about 1 year ago

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thanks very much for your replies on this old thread Wink

Am I right to think that you would call here, because a raise / shove would just fold out his overcards and maybe some hands we beat while obviously keeping his stronger hands in and you would fold to the big turn bet, because most guys will not follow through with a second barrel there with air/draws after you bet and called the ch/r?

What do you think does he ch/r here at all? I just can't come up with a reasonable range for him.
My assumption would be some Broadways as well as FDs and maybe A2s and 77.



yes

occasional bluff and some really strong hands

Posted about 1 year ago

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About the hero call against the fish, i think generally fish don't value bet enough, but they merge their range.
With good hands they try to get to showndown and don't bet becausethey are afraid we have the nuts, and with weak hand with showndown value they bet because they don't know what else to do.
In the TT hands i don't think a fish will value bet an ace or even 2 pair but i think he can very well show up with a J. It's still an easy call though. imo




I think this is very true. A good example is when the guy c/r 99 on Q72tt at the end of the video. I would expect him to c/c a queen most the time.

Question to JK3A: I can't remember where in the video you did this(I'll look later), but you fold a hand like A3s UTG or MP. A table with many full-stacked mega-whales, I feel like A3s is a slam-dunk open.

Edit: You fold A2s at 13:38 in MP. You also fold A8o the previous hand in CO. Aren't these great hands to open vs fish?

Posted 5 months ago

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I think this is very true. A good example is when the guy c/r 99 on Q72tt at the end of the video. I would expect him to c/c a queen most the time.

Question to JK3A: I can't remember where in the video you did this(I'll look later), but you fold a hand like A3s UTG or MP. A table with many full-stacked mega-whales, I feel like A3s is a slam-dunk open.

Edit: You fold A2s at 13:38 in MP. You also fold A8o the previous hand in CO. Aren't these great hands to open vs fish?



yea I would def open those hands today in the table conditions you describe

Posted 5 months ago



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