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Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by DeathDonkey (Mid Stakes)

Good vid as always. I'd like to see the two of you working more series' together.

Time Link to 00:01:21

If we just stove a narrow range for UTG we are in rough shape:

Board: Td Jc 6d Ad
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 07.128% 04.96% 02.17% 72 31.50 { QsJs }
Hand 1: 92.872% 90.70% 02.17% 1317 31.50 { AQs+, KQs, AQo+, KQo }

If we add A9o we increase to 9%. Whatever range SB has it obv will decrease our equity further. If we believe UTG will just call with a lot of pairs on the flop the situation is ofc different. Actually to my suprise it kind of looks like XF is good. I believe we will lose bets on average on the river.

Nice video. I kept picturing Mike as the little devil sitting on your shoulder whispering in your ear, "Come on, three bet that J8s! It will be exciting!" "You need to open limp that K6o. It's only 2 dollars. Come on; do it!"

Time Link to 00:01:19

wow, i love how jennicide is playing in your game

She is so loose and aggressive preflop. That's what it also said in her playboy bio.

She has a wikipedia page if you want to check it out.

Time Link to 00:02:13

You must hate money if you wanna threebet an UTG range from the BB w/ QJ, Mike L. Although i do like your thinking about making that fold when everybody calls that flop and it turns an Ace that completes broadway and flush draws.

Time Link to 00:05:23

the main reason for jennicide's fame is that she did a playboy spread a couple years back.

i think she's had some minor donkament success as well.

the main reason for jennicide's fame is that she did a playboy spread a couple years back.

Next time you play her you need to set up a "show me your pair" metagame. I think it'd be +EV.

Time Link to 00:05:56

these are very good games.

Time Link to 00:27:23

on the left table, what are your reasons for just calling w/ KQ in the BB and not 3! against what is probably a loose CO opening?

Time Link to 00:06:34

Could you guys give me an idea of how big of an adjustment you are making in a 1/3 blind structure in this situation? You fold J3o so what Jx hands are you calling with against a tighter player? Are we talking about tightening up a couple pips like to J5o+?

I would assume against looser or bad players we are reverting to normal defend strategy regardless of the blind structure.

How does your stealing range change first in from the SB?

How does your 3b range change from SB to B steal?

How does your calling range change if there is a raise and a couple calls and you are in SB?

I have never heard a lot of discussion about these adjustments in a 1/3 structure and would love to here your comments.

Thanks for the great vids
Motienko

Time Link to 00:13:08

Would having the As instead of the Qs make this a turn bet? Obviously it would be less gross if you got raised and I think it is quite possible to get the villian to fold a 4 on this board.

Time Link to 00:14:54

AK makes sense to call down here. How does your hand change here with a smaller kicker? What kickers, if any, are you mucking on the turn or river?

DD, you mentioned you reserve the right to raise a blank turn. Could you explain your thinking on this and when and against who it would best apply? I would assume you would be v betting some rivers as well? On a board like this, wouldn't you be opening yourself up to getting value owned by the villian if he 3bs an overpair?

Time Link to 00:17:15

I open this always from UTG. Is this too loose in general, or is this more specifice to blind structure or the high rake at these limits?

Mike, you say you usually wait for the CO to play this. Could you explain why?

DD, I know you typically play any Ace suited from UTG so why wouldn't you play QJ?

I know there are coaches who would open this hand UTG, but perhaps I have misapplied there reasoning.

Are you guys opening QTo in the HJ?

Just wondering...Thanks

on the left table, what are your reasons for just calling w/ KQ in the BB and not 3! against what is probably a loose CO opening?

I normally just call everything in that spot, so habit I suppose?

Could you guys give me an idea of how big of an adjustment you are making in a 1/3 blind structure in this situation? You fold J3o so what Jx hands are you calling with against a tighter player? Are we talking about tightening up a couple pips like to J5o+?

I would assume against looser or bad players we are reverting to normal defend strategy regardless of the blind structure.

How does your stealing range change first in from the SB?

How does your 3b range change from SB to B steal?

How does your calling range change if there is a raise and a couple calls and you are in SB?

I have never heard a lot of discussion about these adjustments in a 1/3 structure and would love to here your comments.

Thanks for the great vids
Motienko

I am tighter across the board, more so when the pot odds are less compelling. So I would fold more in BB/SB situations from either side, I would fold more in SB defenses vs a button steal (say folding weak Axs or JTo stuff I'd normally 3 bet). The pot odds are just significantly worse. I also steal slightly less on the button in that blind structure.

If its raised and a couple coldcallers I'm calling nearly the same range as normal, simply because now the pot odds aren't that much worse than in a 1/2 structure.

Would having the As instead of the Qs make this a turn bet? Obviously it would be less gross if you got raised and I think it is quite possible to get the villian to fold a 4 on this board.

I don't think there is much of a difference between the two hands. I'm not saying my play was right but I think if its right to bet AsQx there its right to bet AxQs too

AK makes sense to call down here. How does your hand change here with a smaller kicker? What kickers, if any, are you mucking on the turn or river?

DD, you mentioned you reserve the right to raise a blank turn. Could you explain your thinking on this and when and against who it would best apply? I would assume you would be v betting some rivers as well? On a board like this, wouldn't you be opening yourself up to getting value owned by the villian if he 3bs an overpair?

Well yes, but if he is capping a bit too wide a range and can't get away from his worse ace highs, its just worth it. It's good against spewy showdown bound guys for obvious reasons.

My kicker changes things a ton, on this board the hand I am most likely to get paid off by is AJ/AQ, when the jack hits the turn if I have AQ I need to think about folding the river, its a pretty bad card for me. These capped pots have fairly narrow ranges so the dropoff from AK to a lesser Ace high is pretty severe since the hands you can beat are all like slightly worse ace highs usually.

I open this always from UTG. Is this too loose in general, or is this more specifice to blind structure or the high rake at these limits?

Mike, you say you usually wait for the CO to play this. Could you explain why?

DD, I know you typically play any Ace suited from UTG so why wouldn't you play QJ?

I know there are coaches who would open this hand UTG, but perhaps I have misapplied there reasoning.

Are you guys opening QTo in the HJ?

Just wondering...Thanks

Shrug, all these hands are close. I am not sure what's ideal, I never really will be. I don't think you should worry about it too much, personal preference or let the skill of the BB determine it somewhat. I open QTo in hijack unless CO and/or Button are hyper.

Time Link to 00:13:01

I really think that raise on flop is terrible. On this board anyone do not will fold K high if do not come heard or 6 or 7. Every oponent will think that you have draw and he will calldown you light. This raise will also destroy your implied odds too because he will fold on scary turn A or K high but if you just call he can put you on random peel and bet/call you down with AK or worse or start check/calling on turn like 6 heards.You can also semibluff raise some turns.
sorry about my english

Time Link to 00:42:05

fourbet the flop, really, mike? Even if you are ahead, you don't have great equity.

Time Link to 00:49:05

you want to donk bet the river on that board, mike? Pocket queens is third pair and is not 3 barreling on that board. K10 is also checking behind most likely. If anything, DD's hand looks like a weak ace

Capping KQo is not a bad play, but i rather just call out of position. It looks like you are tilting if you showdown your hand.

I really think that raise on flop is terrible. On this board anyone do not will fold K high if do not come heard or 6 or 7. Every oponent will think that you have draw and he will calldown you light. This raise will also destroy your implied odds too because he will fold on scary turn A or K high but if you just call he can put you on random peel and bet/call you down with AK or worse or start check/calling on turn like 6 heards.You can also semibluff raise some turns.
sorry about my english

I'm the king of overstating how bad some things are (I call things 'terrible' all the time) but there is no way it can be terrible to semibluff a gutshot straight flush draw + overcard. There are plenty of better Q high and K high hands that will fold, I almost never get called down by king high, and I'd expect it to occur even less often at smaller stakes where players aren't quite as aware of the relative value of their hand (an expert would know king high and ace high are essentially the same hand here but a weaker player may not).

This is a board that hits my button stealing range pretty well, and I'll be fastplaying most pairs here, my range will be fairly well balanced between draws and made hands so his ace highs don't have the easiest time in the world.

I agree waiting until the turn is not the worst option either.

Time Link to 00:20:58

If there wasn't the poster, would you open Q8o in the CO with the laggy BTN? I think with the extra money in the pot and the fact that there's a poster we have position on with the bottom 80% in his range (since he checked his option) makes this an easy raise for me even with the laggy BTN.

Easier to iso this than to 3b Jennicide with K8 (contrary to what MikeL is saying) imo.

I normally would not open Q8o in CO w a laggy button behind.

this video and thread.

Time Link to 00:19:25

Isnt A6o a standard call here? I mean the CO raise is around 15-20% raise PF, he seems pretty thight so something like that.

You dont call A6o because villain turn CB very often or you just feel like its hard to play A6o?