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Blumpster returns with a $2/4 PLO Ghost video that expands on tactics given by our own Vanessa Selbst. Focus will be mainly on hand selection and opponent reads.
Posted 4 months ago
tags: blumpster plo ghost $2/4 6max hand selection 4-tabling live play
Mid Stakes,
48 min long
Comments for blumpster (#2) - PLO
AAmucked
I would really like to see an analysis of betting situations on paired boards. I am 15 minutes in but already both of your bets on paired boards I felt were -EV. The AA hand seems like a pretty easy check behind.. you can't get called by worse especially since you have the NFD and you're IP with a decent draw to improve. The other one seems bad as well because you're OOP and can't profitably VB unless against superdonks.
Posted 4 months ago
AAmucked
I also disagree with the double paired hand statement, in PLO we should draw to the "nuts". You are not doing so w/ 3322, so you're essentially calling with a hand with double suited Q or less flush draws. In a previous video I thought it was well stated that it is a good hand that you can RR w/ IP because you are against one opponent but otherwise double paired hands - 88 are pretty bad.
Posted 4 months ago
blumpster
The AA hand is a tough one, and I can certainly see checking behind. The reason I bet there was mostly due to the stack sizes - 2 of the opponents were somewhat short. It would be a nobrainer call of a shove from them and it seems more likely to get them to make a mistake on the flop (with, say, a smaller flush draw) than later in the hand. The fact that I got flat called by the sizable stack sucked but I think it's a little results-oriented to say the flop bet is bad there.
I'm not sure the other hand you are referring to. There's a limped pot hand at 3:00 on bottom right where the flop 997 two diamonds was checked around and I took a stab on the blank 2h turn with AKddXX. Is this the hand you are talking about?
Posted 4 months ago
AAmucked
Yes, that is the hand I'm talking about.
Posted 4 months ago
blumpster
Regarding the hand where we have AKddXX in a limped pot where the 997 two diamond flop was checked around: I think the turn bet is fine. I'm not always gonna try and steal it but you have to sometimes take shots at pots where it's quite likely no one else is interested.
When we get called by one opponent, I'm usually shutting down on the river. In this case, we make the nut flush on the river, and I think we often have the best hand, although of course not always. While it's pretty tough to paid off here, I still think we get looked up enough (bare 9x, lower flush, straight) to make a 2/3 pot bet the best play. It's certainly thin, and if I had a better read on him that he would never call with worse and never fold better, obviously a bet is incorrect. As I think I explained in the video, against this unknown, I think bet/folding is the best line, followed closely by check/fold, with check/call far behind that, and bet/calling pretty terrible.
Posted 4 months ago
blumpster
Well, I'm open to debate on this, but for now I'm still sticking by my original claim that any double paired hand is playable in most scenarios.
Posted 4 months ago
Nolan
at about 8:45 in you get minraised on the flop with the nut straight Q98 board with two hearts.
You say that he may be freerolling you so you decide to see a turn. The turn is the Q putting a pair up on the board and the action goes check/check.
At this point it's obviously very unlikely he has a boat and you are probably right that he was freerolling w/a FD (or even just had a naked FD + Pair/GS type hand).
You decide to block bet the river. Is there any merit to turning our hand into a bluff and check/raising here? I feel he'd almost always make a small value bet and he'd also always fold to the C/R. Worst case scenario he calls for the split.
Or is this just being way to complicated.
Posted 4 months ago
blumpster
Nolan - definitely a creative play to consider. It reminds me of a play Vanessa did when she flopped the 2nd nut flush vs a super nitty player. I believe she check/called two streets planning on folding to a sizable river bet. When the board paired the river, she checked and he made a bet that looked like he was trying to still get value with the nut flush, so she check/raised the pot and he folded.
One problem is that he may still make a crying call with the JT, thereby eliminating any profit we gain by making this fairly expensive pseudo-bluff.
Another potential problem I see is that he could actually check behind a non-nut boat on the turn if he had something like JT99/JT88 or 88/99+hearts. Checking back those hands is a viable play because if he had those hands, he likely puts me on either the NFD or some two pair hand that could have him screwed now. (A lot of players don't give you credit for being smart enough to just call with the current nuts with no redraws, but maybe he might since we're a little deeper than usual.) The NFD will fold to a decent sized turn bet, so basically checking back keeps in all hands that are dead and only gets action from better hands. However, because his flop raise was a min raise, the JT+flush draw seemed like his most likely hand.
I guess the play has to work 2/3 of the time to be profitable (risking pot to gain 1/2 pot), and I'd want a slightly better read to be willing to make a play that risky.
Posted 4 months ago
ekohekoh12
pretty nitty/solid.
Posted about 1 month ago
tubasteve
arent we gonna get set-over-set a lot of the time with something like 2233 or 4455?
Posted about 1 month ago
fslexcduck
Exec ProducerI just saw this post now so I thought I'd respond - about one year ago, I'd never have dreamed of playing a hand like 2233 - biggest problem hand in the world.
Nowadays though, the games are so much more aggressive, that people will routinely stack off with 2 pair, sometimes as bad as bottom 2. So while you get set over set sometimes, as long as you're playing aggressively, I think it's way more than compensated for by the times you get action from two pair (or overpair with straight draw or something). The best time to play them is in a multiway 3bet pot where people stack off with 1 pair and backdoors sometimes, but that much should be obvious.
Posted 26 days ago