Yay, another whitelime video.
First of all, aren't you playing a bit too loose? You keep trying to 3/4-bet people while you're running at 44/40 stats with marginal to very bad hands. I know you made the comment that because you're deep it's not all that bad, and that you want to get into interesting spots for the video, but how interesting are those spots for us when most of us don't 3/4-bet light while running at 44/40? Maybe it's better to play a bit tighter, but still loose (30/26, etc) so the spots you get in are more interesting, since a lot of the members get into these spots themselves when they play.

On to a specific hand, at around minute 37:00 you say you do call his minraise with A10/AJ of spades and only continue when you hit. Could you explain this concept a little further? Is it profitable enough to do so, and what if you only hit a 10 or a J, making you third pair, will you still continue (and probably stack off cause the opponent is so short) with the hand?

Overall I enjoyed the video and can't wait for more.

Yay, another whitelime video.
First of all, aren't you playing a bit too loose? You keep trying to 3/4-bet people while you're running at 44/40 stats with marginal to very bad hands. I know you made the comment that because you're deep it's not all that bad, and that you want to get into interesting spots for the video, but how interesting are those spots for us when most of us don't 3/4-bet light while running at 44/40? Maybe it's better to play a bit tighter, but still loose (30/26, etc) so the spots you get in are more interesting, since a lot of the members get into these spots themselves when they play.

yeah this

Really enjoy watching whitelime playing. Good one.

What's the HH at 37:00? I'm on a computer that can't view the video right now...

You open A9 of spades UTG 4-handed, so basicly from the CO.
SB calls with a $213 starting stack.
Flop is Qc6hKs.
SB checks, you cbet $34 in $46, he minraises you pretty quick to $68, you fold.

also another thing i've been thinking about / struggling with is that if we're 3betting a very wide range and constantly applying pressure on others, how much does it change our felting range preflop, after we've 3bet someone a ton and he finally 4bets us and we have like TT or something similar do we automatically assume that he is finally taking a stand and still felt or just let it go thinking he finally picked something up (which in a nutshell i guess means that should we adjust our ranges for getting it in preflop according to our own 3betting and 4betting frequencies or to the hands that we see villain showdown in similar spots?)
I am probably explaining this really poorly but i hope you understand and can give me some thoughts, thanks

great video.

Why cant I see this vid? Just stopping after 30 sec, whats the problem????

Hi Emil,

Quick question...

When you called the 3bet with 22 OOP, you decided to c/c the Kxx rainbow. From what I could tell you were readless other than from the few hands you'd been at the table.

I would think that the c/c with 22 isn't a profitable play unless we have the read that villain is always shutting down after making the initial c-bet. Do you feel you can c/c there because villain is often going to read you to having a King, and not bet turn or river?

I feel like once I see an opponent c/c 22 on any board in a 3bet pot, I'm going to be barelling with a ridiculous frequency.

Could you give any further thoughts on that hand please.

Thanks,
Mark

Why does villain have to shut down on the turn to make it profitable? If he's firing the turn with some frequency, we can c-c again w/ some frequency...

When you type on your keyboard it sounds like African folk music.

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I wasn't the only one that thought it sounded cool then!

Emil, Just wanted to say that I think you continuation bet too much in this video. When you're playing so loose, I think you cant get away with cbetting 80%. Also just wondering what your 3bet% is at MSNL, and if you think its a huge leak to only have it at ~4%.
TY.

I wasn't the only one that thought it sounded cool then!

Emil, Just wanted to say that I think you continuation bet too much in this video. When you're playing so loose, I think you cant get away with cbetting 80%. Also just wondering what your 3bet% is at MSNL, and if you think its a huge leak to only have it at ~4%.
TY.

I don't have enough hands at 6 max to get an accurate 3-bet % stat and I just recently started using HEM, but off the top of my head I'd say 4% is a bit low but I wouldn't call it a leak. It's more of a way that you can make your game even more profitable.

emil-
i understand you think this really lagish style is profitable, but how? Is this more profitable from a non-showdown winnings standpoint, or do you just expect to get your big hands double stacked more?

emil-
i understand you think this really lagish style is profitable, but how? Is this more profitable from a non-showdown winnings standpoint, or do you just expect to get your big hands double stacked more?

Moreso the latter but against weaker opponents you can win a lot of pots without getting to showdown.

im curious what u would do on various board textures when you 3 bet 66 to 75.00 then bet out 85 into 150 on the 77x flop?

I'd bet most of them with 66 b/c it's almost always going to be a vulnerable hand. If the flop is very ugly like J98, I might give up right there.

I'd like to know why so many people r confused as to how a LAG player such as whitelime can win...?
Maybe because not all are loose fish and can actually read ranges and board textures...
Why dont some of u drop down a couple stakes and see if ur experience over lower staked nwbs can run them over at much higher Vpip/PFR? I've found my PT BB has increased significantly with opening my range up and playing position like a speedfreak.
On a site such as full tilt where many players are 20/18 TAGS, players such as Whitelime and MDM13 are crushing because they take advantage of the such standard tendencies which many TAG's habitually employ. These standard players are playing the same hands and lines, whilst the strong LAG is bedazzling them with flamboyance and creativity, matched with solid fundamentals and experience.

(abit of a rant but i think its nice , hopefully it fuels a HAPPY debate)