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Ghost: Jk3a (#9) - Exploitable Part 1

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Ghost: Jk3a (#9) - Exploitable Part 1 by jk3a

Jk3a takes you through his play with the main thought of exploitable, either in his favor or against it.

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  • Game: nlhe
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  • 45 minutes long
  • Posted almost 2 years ago

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jjd323

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I really like vids that make me rethink spots like these. Great vid.

Posted about 2 years ago

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[x] eploitable



I see what you did there Wink

Posted about 2 years ago

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Good video, good thought process when making key decisions. Reinforces things we should be thinking about in every single hand.

Posted about 2 years ago

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I thought the name of this vid suggested that it was going to be a PLO vid.

ePLOitable. get it?

Posted about 2 years ago

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Time Link to 00:05:53

Hey how's it going, Jared? A couple questions about this hand:

Do you like the way d0zer played his 66? Do you guys have history where he knows a big part of your perceived range is the NFD or combo draw that auto gets it in on the flop?

Also with respect to your overbet shove, this is good against a thinking player who's a decent hand reader that knows draws are a decent part of your perceived range. However, are you taking this line against weaker players who aren't as good of hand readers and who likely have a fair bit of draws in their range? I assume you're probably just betting an amount on the turn which forces them to make a mistake with their draw.

Posted about 2 years ago

beachbum

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Time Link to 00:09:29

If b4rr4o was CO and truitt was BTN and you decided not to squeeze your KQo pre, I assume you c/r the flop if CO cbets and fish calls, especially with these stack sizes? I'd figure c/r >>> c/c. Would your decision change much if you were 100 or 150bb deep with b4rr4o?

Posted about 2 years ago

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Like your videos, man. Down to earth no BS. wp.

Posted about 2 years ago

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Time Link to 00:31:25

jk -
Thank for your videos.

Can you please comment on Villians line with QQ squeeze vs a LAG btn overcalling a 3-bet range?

Do you like villians flop bet size?
Should villian shove the turn? If so, why?
If villian checks the turn, do you like his bluff catch on this river?
If not, why not?
Is there a river card he should bluff catch?
or should he never bluff catch? if not why not.

Posted about 2 years ago

jk3a

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Hey how's it going, Jared? A couple questions about this hand:

Do you like the way d0zer played his 66? Do you guys have history where he knows a big part of your perceived range is the NFD or combo draw that auto gets it in on the flop?

Also with respect to your overbet shove, this is good against a thinking player who's a decent hand reader that knows draws are a decent part of your perceived range. However, are you taking this line against weaker players who aren't as good of hand readers and who likely have a fair bit of draws in their range? I assume you're probably just betting an amount on the turn which forces them to make a mistake with their draw.



I like his play. prob not jamming against bad players

Posted about 2 years ago

jk3a

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If b4rr4o was CO and truitt was BTN and you decided not to squeeze your KQo pre, I assume you c/r the flop if CO cbets and fish calls, especially with these stack sizes? I'd figure c/r >>> c/c. Would your decision change much if you were 100 or 150bb deep with b4rr4o?



yea i like c/r with the stacks in the hand, but not so much as they get closer to 100bb

Posted about 2 years ago

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jk -
Thank for your videos.

Can you please comment on Villians line with QQ squeeze vs a LAG btn overcalling a 3-bet range?

Do you like villians flop bet size?
Should villian shove the turn? If so, why?
If villian checks the turn, do you like his bluff catch on this river?
If not, why not?
Is there a river card he should bluff catch?
or should he never bluff catch? if not why not.



i think smaller is better
yes, for value/protection
his river call is bad, very few/if any bluffs in my range

not really, he should be vbetting most river if he checks turn...once i check turn, he should put most of my range as showdown value making bluff catching river unprofitable

Posted about 2 years ago

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i think smaller is better
yes, for value/protection
his river call is bad, very few/if any bluffs in my range

not really, he should be vbetting most river if he checks turn...once i check turn, he should put most of my range as showdown value making bluff catching river unprofitable


Is there any villian type where villians line would be optimal?Where
(a) the board ran out this way
(b) the board did not repeat a flop rank
(c) the board bricked i.e. non flushing

Posted about 2 years ago

jk3a

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Is there any villian type where villians line would be optimal?Where
(a) the board ran out this way
(b) the board did not repeat a flop rank
(c) the board bricked i.e. non flushing



certain types of fish...either crazy aggros or loose guys who can float flop super wide and bluff river

Posted about 2 years ago

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Time Link to 00:05:30

You say check raising to any thing between 2.5 and 4x is fine here, then go on to talk about the awkward stacks on the turn after c/r just less than 3x. If you made the c/r bigger (say 4x or close to), then stacks would be set up nicely for pot sized turn shove.

Given your play here (and the point of the discussion) was to balance your semi bluffing range (and not necessarily to be getting stacks in), do you think c/raising smaller and overbetting turn will give you more FE on your semi bluffs than c/raising bigger to set up stacks for a pot size turn shove?

cheers,

ps

Posted about 2 years ago

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You say check raising to any thing between 2.5 and 4x is fine here, then go on to talk about the awkward stacks on the turn after c/r just less than 3x. If you made the c/r bigger (say 4x or close to), then stacks would be set up nicely for pot sized turn shove.

Given your play here (and the point of the discussion) was to balance your semi bluffing range (and not necessarily to be getting stacks in), do you think c/raising smaller and overbetting turn will give you more FE on your semi bluffs than c/raising bigger to set up stacks for a pot size turn shove?

cheers,

ps




yea, I think that def has merit, however, given the wet texture of the board, I usually wouldn't go much smaller than I did

Posted about 2 years ago

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Anyone knows how do I configure this "3bet vs open from" stat ?

Posted about 2 years ago

jk3a

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Anyone knows how do I configure this "3bet vs open from" stat ?



you need to replace the default pop up for 3bet with the "default_vsPre"

Posted about 2 years ago

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Very nice vid! Good info to the point.

Posted about 2 years ago

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Time Link to 00:29:47

What do you think of villian's bluff with the missed draw on the river? Given your description of your range here (which seems pretty reasonable imo) surely this the board pairing river must be one of the worst cards in the deck to bluff?

Separately, if the board didn't pair on the river, would you have called an overbet shove?

Posted about 2 years ago

jk3a

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What do you think of villian's bluff with the missed draw on the river? Given your description of your range here (which seems pretty reasonable imo) surely this the board pairing river must be one of the worst cards in the deck to bluff?

Separately, if the board didn't pair on the river, would you have called an overbet shove?



board pairing has got to be a bad card to bluff as alot of my turn c/c range has two pair/sets, but it still could be ok depending on how i play overpairs/flush draws, just not near as good as it would be on brick rivers. not to say I couldn't click call with a set on offsuit K river, but it's much easier for him to rep 8x with a big bet when the board doesn't pair

Posted about 2 years ago

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Time Link to 00:20:43

What about a double float in position in this spot since a shove raise doesn't rep much ? Do you thing he's gonna 3 barell bluff too often ?

Posted about 2 years ago

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What about a double float in position in this spot since a shove raise doesn't rep much ? Do you thing he's gonna 3 barell bluff too often ?



no, I don't think 3barreling a ton, and I do think double float is reasonable and def is very well balanced with my overall strategy. hard to say which is better, mostly dependent on if he'd bluff the river

Posted about 2 years ago

Lilium

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you need to replace the default pop up for 3bet with the "default_vsPre"



Thanks a lot.

Posted about 2 years ago

shaggy

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Time Link to 00:22:02

Great video

Could you please explain your reasoning for the check shove in this hand. It seems to me we are only getting called by sets b/c our play looks so strong.

Posted about 2 years ago

jk3a

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Great video

Could you please explain your reasoning for the check shove in this hand. It seems to me we are only getting called by sets b/c our play looks so strong.



a large portion of their collective calling range to my jam will include sets. however, with $400 in the pot, the best hand ALOT, and the small chance we get called by worse, shoving is very profitable.

Posted about 2 years ago

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Not to be a pain but a few of us ran this hand through PokerRazor and the best we could come up with was a EV of around 8BB. This was only attained after widening UTG's flop betting range to include most of his preflop calling range. BU simply can't be to wide after flatting flop bet. I'm really just struggling to find where we're off on ranges. Could you give me some ideas on the range you think UTG is betting and BU calling on this flop.

Note: We were able to increase the EV to 12BB if we made your stack only 100BB but left UTG and BU ranges and stacks the same.

Thanks

Posted about 2 years ago

jk3a

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Not to be a pain but a few of us ran this hand through PokerRazor and the best we could come up with was a EV of around 8BB. This was only attained after widening UTG's flop betting range to include most of his preflop calling range. BU simply can't be to wide after flatting flop bet. I'm really just struggling to find where we're off on ranges. Could you give me some ideas on the range you think UTG is betting and BU calling on this flop.

Note: We were able to increase the EV to 12BB if we made your stack only 100BB but left UTG and BU ranges and stacks the same.

Thanks




what ranges are you using? also, please note how you're doing the EV calc. Specifically, how much FE do you estimate and what's our equity when called. Also for the sake of simplicity, I would assume that we "never" get called by both.

Posted about 2 years ago

jjd323

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Not to be a pain but a few of us ran this hand through PokerRazor and the best we could come up with was a EV of around 8BB. This was only attained after widening UTG's flop betting range to include most of his preflop calling range. BU simply can't be to wide after flatting flop bet. I'm really just struggling to find where we're off on ranges. Could you give me some ideas on the range you think UTG is betting and BU calling on this flop.

Note: We were able to increase the EV to 12BB if we made your stack only 100BB but left UTG and BU ranges and stacks the same.

Thanks



You can upload the pokerrazor save file onto the DC file store and link it in the thread; we can all fiddle with it then.

Posted about 2 years ago

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with the set of nines and the KQ vs fish you end up with awkward turn stacks and are faced with the choice to overbet shove or bet a "normal" amount leaving just a small amount left on the river.

do you think there is merit to just sizing your checkraise and/or flop bet a little larger so you can more comfortably shove the turn?

Posted about 2 years ago

jk3a

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with the set of nines and the KQ vs fish you end up with awkward turn stacks and are faced with the choice to overbet shove or bet a "normal" amount leaving just a small amount left on the river.

do you think there is merit to just sizing your checkraise and/or flop bet a little larger so you can more comfortably shove the turn?



yes, that would def be good/fine, it's obv just difficult to do in game all the time

Posted about 2 years ago

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Yah..great vid...KQ Hand "He happens to suck out so,...bummer"lol. Its good to see losing hands too so we dont think we're making really bad plays.Great vid.We get to learn how to play it better from ur mistakes,well...it wasnt really a mistake,he just sucked out.

Posted about 2 years ago

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you need to replace the default pop up for 3bet with the "default_vsPre"



Where is this located? I just copy&paste it there?
Great vid.

Thanks up front.

Posted about 2 years ago

jk3a

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Where is this located? I just copy&paste it there?
Great vid.

Thanks up front.



highlight the stat in player preferences and in the right side of the window, there's a dropdown menu labeled popup

Posted about 2 years ago

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Time Link to 00:37:20

What sizing would you use with AJ & AQ at the turn and river?

Posted almost 2 years ago

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What sizing would you use with AJ & AQ at the turn and river?



similar turn size and either a very small river bet or a c/f

Posted almost 2 years ago

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the last ATs hand. Why are we raising flop exactly? It's not very likely he folds an overpair to our flop shove and there is always a chance he barrels
the turn with a no pair hand. Why not to just float the flop and jam over a turn bet for more profit?

Posted over 1 year ago

jk3a

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the last ATs hand. Why are we raising flop exactly? It's not very likely he folds an overpair to our flop shove and there is always a chance he barrels
the turn with a no pair hand. Why not to just float the flop and jam over a turn bet for more profit?



this guy didn't 2 barrel much and I thought he would fold AJ-AK. that said, calling is very good too and can be best given the right circumstances.

i'm mostly raising here to get him to fold a few better hands, call with a few worse draws and try and keep myself from getting bluffed when I do whiff turn/river. individually the reasons aren't great, but combined they make for a decent play.

this is not to say calling and making decisions later is bad or unprofitable, just that taking a line we know is +ev to avoid potentially future mistakes can be valid

Posted over 1 year ago

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Time Link to 00:38:17

Surely the best play on the river is to check-call as we have the board crushed and he can have tonnes of hands that he can bluff shove the river with.

Its also likely whatever he calls with was shoving the river itself

Posted over 1 year ago

jk3a

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Surely the best play on the river is to check-call as we have the board crushed and he can have tonnes of hands that he can bluff shove the river with.

Its also likely whatever he calls with was shoving the river itself



we're in position

Posted over 1 year ago



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