Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by FoxwoodsFiend (High Stakes)

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21 min in the video with T9s. Why not spend some time to check the river. We dont want him to think, that the river card did not help us. Or are we suposed to merge our checking quick range with strong hands?

I would be interested to hear why you think you can't fold KJs to a 7% 3bettor oop. I feel like when you flop a piece you pretty much always have a bluffcatcher, and as you said, since btn's range is tight, you can't bluffcatch. Bluffing oop is hard too.
Idk, I think if we are folding that river we need to fold pf.

For the AQo hand in the 3b pot where you get check/raised on flop, call blank turn, then fold blank river, can you explain more about your thought process on calling the turn with the intention of folding to a river bet? In spots like these, I'd always talk myself into calling the river because all the draws missed and part of the reason for calling the turn is because he could have semi-bluffs in his range that might bluff the river.

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are AT or TT possible hands we get to river with too? Is he ever just firing 3rd barrel on us to get us to fold our draws and Pair+Draws?

21 min in the video with T9s. Why not spend some time to check the river. We dont want him to think, that the river card did not help us. Or are we suposed to merge our checking quick range with strong hands?

I'd never really lead that river regardless of whether I have a made hand or hit my draw. So he can expect me to be checking 100% of my range there and therefore not need to take any time on my decision.

I would be interested to hear why you think you can't fold KJs to a 7% 3bettor oop. I feel like when you flop a piece you pretty much always have a bluffcatcher, and as you said, since btn's range is tight, you can't bluffcatch. Bluffing oop is hard too.
Idk, I think if we are folding that river we need to fold pf.

I mean, you could fold it..I just don't think we should. I'm not 100% sure about it or anything, but KJs is a pretty strong hand (top 7%), esp when deep. It's up there with 88, ATs, AQo.

For the AQo hand in the 3b pot where you get check/raised on flop, call blank turn, then fold blank river, can you explain more about your thought process on calling the turn with the intention of folding to a river bet? In spots like these, I'd always talk myself into calling the river because all the draws missed and part of the reason for calling the turn is because he could have semi-bluffs in his range that might bluff the river.

Well we established that we don't expect him to be pure bluffing hardly ever. So his bluff combos are basically 3 combos of ATs, 3 T9s, 3 JTs (9 total) and he doesn't always take this line w/ them. I would estimate that he gets to the river w/ about 3 of the possible 9 combos. And he can obv have 99(3), JJ(3), QJs(2), KTs(4), T8s(4) and play them this way almost always (he'll fold T8s maybe half the time pf), which is a lot of hands relative to his bluffing range. So we're really just not going to be ahead often enough to call the shove.

are AT or TT possible hands we get to river with too? Is he ever just firing 3rd barrel on us to get us to fold our draws and Pair+Draws?

Sure, we can def have AT (prob not TT since we overcalled the flop). I really don't think he expects us to have any draws in our range here after we call the turn. He bet pretty big into two people (one of whom is a weaker player) on a terrible card to bluff, so it'd be a pretty awful spot for me to call oop with a draw. And the only pair+draw we can have is A3cc and we'd c/r the flop with that some of the time. So our range is just so heavily weighted towards Tx that I'd be shocked if he's bluffing very often at all because I really don't think he'll expect me to fold trips there.

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Am I the only one that thinks it's a semi-standard fold for villain on the river with KQ? There's not really any missed flush draws (except backdoor hearts) that we have and I'm trying to think of a single value hand that KQ has beat.

Also the fact that we'd probably never bluff on this river card as we probably put him on a range of AK, AA, KQ, or KJ, if not stronger, when he calls the check-raise and turn barrel. Then the board pairs 4 on the river so now we're even less likely to be continuing to get him off his hand.

I'm also a strong advocate of flatting under the gun raises with AK, QQ, and JJ. When I 3-bet UTG raises there it seems like people are playing nitty and folding a lot of hands since they put me on such a strong range. I never seem to get value from my AA/KK.

What's the best way to balance my SB/BB 3-betting range against a UTG raiser? Should I continue to flat AK/QQ and then 3-bet AA/KK mixed in with the occasional bluff? Or should I just change all of my raising hands like AA and KK and just flat call in order to balance everything and also disguise my hand somewhat?

Well we established that we don't expect him to be pure bluffing hardly ever. So his bluff combos are basically 3 combos of ATs, 3 T9s, 3 JTs (9 total) and he doesn't always take this line w/ them. I would estimate that he gets to the river w/ about 3 of the possible 9 combos. And he can obv have 99(3), JJ(3), QJs(2), KTs(4), T8s(4) and play them this way almost always (he'll fold T8s maybe half the time pf), which is a lot of hands relative to his bluffing range. So we're really just not going to be ahead often enough to call the shove.

Can the same thing be said about his range on the turn, then? Or is his turn range wider, which is why we call turn/fold river?

I'd never really lead that river regardless of whether I have a made hand or hit my draw. So he can expect me to be checking 100% of my range there and therefore not need to take any time on my decision.

I am not advocating leading here. I am advocating spending more time to check, than you actually do. If you had a hand good enough to stand heat, you would at least consider leading...

I am not advocating leading here. I am advocating spending more time to check, than you actually do. If you had a hand good enough to stand heat, you would at least consider leading...

No, that was my point..that I would really never consider leading there regardless of what I had. Like if I had AT or rivered a straight with 98, checking would be super standard. Because he's betting basically all the hands that will call a bet and then a little bit of air (it also allows me to c/shove if I happen to have a monster). Hence I would be checking 100% of my range there, and he should be aware of that. It's sort of like calling a btn raise out of the blinds and insta checking the flop..there's really no information to be gained from it.

Am I the only one that thinks it's a semi-standard fold for villain on the river with KQ? There's not really any missed flush draws (except backdoor hearts) that we have and I'm trying to think of a single value hand that KQ has beat.

Obviously KQ doesn't have any value hands beat, but there are a good amount of semi-bluffs: AQ/AJ, JQ, 7h8h, etc. I do think it's a fold, but it's not like it's impossible for chipchucker to be bluffing here

Also the fact that we'd probably never bluff on this river card as we probably put him on a range of AK, AA, KQ, or KJ, if not stronger, when he calls the check-raise and turn barrel. Then the board pairs 4 on the river so now we're even less likely to be continuing to get him off his hand.

Yeah, I agree

I'm also a strong advocate of flatting under the gun raises with AK, QQ, and JJ. When I 3-bet UTG raises there it seems like people are playing nitty and folding a lot of hands since they put me on such a strong range. I never seem to get value from my AA/KK.

What's the best way to balance my SB/BB 3-betting range against a UTG raiser? Should I continue to flat AK/QQ and then 3-bet AA/KK mixed in with the occasional bluff? Or should I just change all of my raising hands like AA and KK and just flat call in order to balance everything and also disguise my hand somewhat?

I mean, you can start 3bet bluffing until you can get value from your monsters or you can flat all your hands: I really don't like 3betting just premiums from the blinds so if you're not going to 3bet at least sometimes as a bluff vs utg from the blinds, you should probably just flat your bigger hands as well imo

Can the same thing be said about his range on the turn, then? Or is his turn range wider, which is why we call turn/fold river?

His turn bluffing range is going to be a little wider than his river bluffing range because people do give up sometimes. But yeah, sometimes he'll give up on his bluffs and we win and sometimes we'll suckout on J9s or QJ, so that's why I think we can call profitably. But like FWF said in the video, it is a fairly thin call.

Nice watching 4 tables of action...one of them has a game going on and 3 are completely empty, not even hero sitting. Thumbs up!

i thought the KJ hand was a great spot to do a massive overbet shove on the flop he would put u on big draws prolly call AA AK K10 10J AQ Q9 1010 JJ KK and his big draws since u have 2 blockers to his sets there is more hands that call u that u beat and its horrible to play it passivly since half the deck is gonna put u in tough situations where u cant get all the money in v worse hands

i thought the KJ hand was a great spot to do a massive overbet shove on the flop he would put u on big draws prolly call AA AK K10 10J AQ Q9 1010 JJ KK and his big draws since u have 2 blockers to his sets there is more hands that call u that u beat and its horrible to play it passivly since half the deck is gonna put u in tough situations where u cant get all the money in v worse hands

i mean check shove to his $700 bet

Nice watching 4 tables of action...one of them has a game going on and 3 are completely empty, not even hero sitting. Thumbs up!

I apologize if the 2nd half was slow/boring. I'll keep that in mind for future vids.

i thought the KJ hand was a great spot to do a massive overbet shove on the flop he would put u on big draws prolly call AA AK K10 10J AQ Q9 1010 JJ KK and his big draws since u have 2 blockers to his sets there is more hands that call u that u beat and its horrible to play it passivly since half the deck is gonna put u in tough situations where u cant get all the money in v worse hands

I don't think this would be a good line. It's such a huge overbet that I'm not sure he'd even be calling w/ AK. This combined w/ the fact that he can call or 3bet when he has a FD, combo draw or like AA makes c/ring to a normal amount better than c/shoving. It also doesn't fit at all into our overall gameplan since I'll never be bluffing this way because it's sooo expensive, and we're shoving in such a huge amount of money, he'll be tempted to fold pretty strong hands..so it doesn't make much sense as a value bet either.

So the question then becomes whether c/c or c/r is better. It's a bit complicated and involves a lot of guesswork, but we do know that villain is a good thinking player. So when we c/c, he'll know that our hand is very likely a one pair hand (KQ, QJ, QT) and will therefore be pretty tempted to barrel us since he can expect us to fold either on the turn or the river. It's also good for metagame in that it sends a msg that I can c/c w/ strong hands and should discourage people from bluffing me in the future. As I said in the vid, I think it's fairly close, but I prefer the c/c line.