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Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by bellatrix (Micro/Small Stakes)

Time Link to 00:02:59

Is this call due to direct pot odds more so than implied odds? Seems like in limit holdem calling with a gut shot, no over card, and no back door FD is a leak. I don't think hero would hit often enough to be +EV, and when you do hit you don't really get paid off a lot. No Limit villain would sometimes stack off with a set and 2 pair. Or am I looking at this spot wrong? Good video, crisp and clear. Good job talking about different villains and different spots.

Is this call due to direct pot odds more so than implied odds? Seems like in limit holdem calling with a gut shot, no over card, and no back door FD is a leak. I don't think hero would hit often enough to be +EV, and when you do hit you don't really get paid off a lot. No Limit villain would sometimes stack off with a set and 2 pair. Or am I looking at this spot wrong? Good video, crisp and clear. Good job talking about different villains and different spots.

No, it is really just about the implied odds. The fact that there is no FD out there and that the gutter gives me the nuts furthermore means there are no reverse implied odds. So I need to make up 2.5SB in equity to give me the correct 10.5-1 odds to hit my 4-outer. Add in a really small out that I hit a queen and it's good (maybe like a third or half an out) and you can quickly see that I make that up with just one single bet on the turn.

So I don't think calling with just a gutter getting 8-1 a leak, because we don't need to make up that much in implied odds. By no means to I need to "stack him", I just need one more bet on the big streets.

Add in to that 2 things:

a) The guy was a maniac. Now at the time, he had only played 8 hands, but even with such a small sample size such a high VPIP/PFR is out of the ordinary and should be noted. As such, this flop does not necessarily need to hit him. He often will have a much wider range than I have, even - the 3bet narrows his range, but maybe only to top 25-30%. He will have stuff like 98s and such in there that I still beat. Or he will have low pocket pairs that I hope to suck out on with my "6 outer". So broad range, lots of times bets weapon agains maniac is to call and let him hang himself as often these guys respect your aggression (plus it makes your calls when you actually have nothing much easier like in this case )

b) If he had a low pocket pair, you might get a free look at the turn, so you don't need immediate pot odds all the time. Now this wasn't necessarily the case here (but I didn't find out the tendencies much later), I do think he would've bluffed with a low pp and the check was indicative of strength, but I don't know. He later checked the turn with KJ on an A-high board instead of bluffing it. Anyway, the fact is that a non-significant amount of time you will get a free look at a river card, which improves your pot odds a bit.

Thanks about the compliments. I *really* want to get across that the way to beat games now isn't to 20-table ABC anymore (though this .5/1 lineup turned out to be quite... mhmmm... fishy), but to grasp opponent's tendencies and act upon them.

Time Link to 00:06:20

First, is there anyway for your HUD to show the entire time instead of switching from table to table? It's kind of annoying when trying to look over at the table and get a read.

Right hand table T5s. Given how small the pot is if I had any read on the players that they would fire when x'd to, I'd go for a xr.

Time Link to 00:06:24

Right hand table 33 open on the button and the BB 3!'s. Even though this guy is a maniac, can you talk a little more about peeling this flop w/ 33 on A98fd? Seems like so many cards are poor for us if he decides to bet the turn.

Time Link to 00:10:44

Left hand table. Well, I understand you have the 45/0 guy on your right, but I think I'd rather have the maniac "Mr. Spike" on my right and just 3! him constantly.

Time Link to 00:13:50

Left table. Iso T8s and get donked into on 765fd. I think you can raise this flop despite not having any bd flush draws. Just thinking about his donking range, I'd imagine your T's and 8's are good a portion of the time, and 9's and 4's are pretty much always good. Yeah getting donk/3! sucks, but you still have outs.

Time Link to 00:18:40

I'd be careful talking about image at these stakes. I don't give most players credit for doing any thinking, let alone thinking about my image. If they are thinking about that, it's probably just looking at my HUD stats. Granted here your HUD is reading 18/13...so maybe you're right?

Time Link to 00:41:37

Right hand table. I think the iso w/ J8o is pretty close fwiw.

Time Link to 00:42:04

Right hand table. Agree with not turning J8o into a bluff--there aren't enough better Q/J high hands that will fold here, plus he's not folding a pair.

Time Link to 00:43:59

Ooo ok I'd like some discussion on the left table xback with A9 on 48Q4. Were you planning on check calling? If so were you check calling down? Is he they type of player to turn worse hands than yours into a bluff?

I realize you have some showdown value, but my thought was he will call you with gut shots and diamonds so I would have bet (but I usually just barrel through too many turns). The pot is pretty small here so I suppose I'm missing something concerning that fact.

Time Link to 00:46:30

Left table A9whatever. In contrast to the other hand, I don't think I raise this flop. Even though you have a bd flush draw, you have more showdown value if he's donking some draw, you only have one overcard, and you don't have a draw to the nuts (when a 9 would have made your T8 on a 765).

Time Link to 00:47:20

Right table A7 on 79Q4J.

I mean the guy's playing 16/11...I think you can fold the river when that card smacks his [possibly nonexistent?] semibluff range. Many 16/11's bluffing with A or K high here?

Time Link to 00:48:40

Left table KQo on 85335.

You're bluffing...you think he's folding Ace high on a double paired board? Or in general?

First, is there anyway for your HUD to show the entire time instead of switching from table to table? It's kind of annoying when trying to look over at the table and get a read.

Sorry, will fix for next vid.

Right hand table T5s. Given how small the pot is if I had any read on the players that they would fire when x'd to, I'd go for a xr.

Yeah, it's a fine balance between getting a lot of value (via c/r) and "protecting" your equity. What I mean is that I don't mind not getting a lot of bets in 3-handed because of the RIO present here and would rather get it heads-up.
But I agree that standard play is to c/r. I must have had a brainfart, not that it was a bad brainfart

Right hand table 33 open on the button and the BB 3!'s. Even though this guy is a maniac, can you talk a little more about peeling this flop w/ 33 on A98fd? Seems like so many cards are poor for us if he decides to bet the turn.

Yeah, might have been an optimistic peel, but I must have felt his 3betting range to be so wide to make the call here. In hindsight too optimistic.

Left hand table. Well, I understand you have the 45/0 guy on your right, but I think I'd rather have the maniac "Mr. Spike" on my right and just 3! him constantly.

I still don't know if "Mr. Spike" was actively bad. Personally if I would have to choose between the two and only those two, I'd have the 45/0 to my right instead of Mr Spike. Of course, as I said in the video having him to my left doesn't make me very happy.

Again, the most important things were the immediate seats. The nit to my left and the 45/0 to my right. Everything else would've been bonus (at least for me, this table would've been a dream table at 2/4, so maybe my standards are quite low).

Left table. Iso T8s and get donked into on 765fd. I think you can raise this flop despite not having any bd flush draws. Just thinking about his donking range, I'd imagine your T's and 8's are good a portion of the time, and 9's and 4's are pretty much always good. Yeah getting donk/3! sucks, but you still have outs.

Yeah, I'm still unsure about this one - hemming and hawing (see me going, ummm... uhhh... sighhh...). Ok, I've got one more vote in the other direction. ;-)

I'd be careful talking about image at these stakes. I don't give most players credit for doing any thinking, let alone thinking about my image. If they are thinking about that, it's probably just looking at my HUD stats. Granted here your HUD is reading 18/13...so maybe you're right?

Yeah, that blew right up in my face, didn't it?

Ooo ok I'd like some discussion on the left table xback with A9 on 48Q4. Were you planning on check calling? If so were you check calling down? Is he they type of player to turn worse hands than yours into a bluff?

I realize you have some showdown value, but my thought was he will call you with gut shots and diamonds so I would have bet (but I usually just barrel through too many turns). The pot is pretty small here so I suppose I'm missing something concerning that fact.

I was definitely planning on calling a river bet. The 4 "improved" my hand to showdown value, none of the obvious draws came in. However, I think betting here on the turn for value is a tad optimistic for my taste. Yes, this is for river situations, but in general for valuebetting you have to be good >50% of their calling range, picking off bluffs you need much lower odds. Now, I agree that I really didn't think it through if the guy just will bluff missed draws on the river as this guy was generally passive, but I don't think I have a value bet on the turn and my hand is too good to turn it into a bluff. Yes, I want to clear up outs, but I don't mind getting a free card myself here.

Left table A9whatever. In contrast to the other hand, I don't think I raise this flop. Even though you have a bd flush draw, you have more showdown value if he's donking some draw, you only have one overcard, and you don't have a draw to the nuts (when a 9 would have made your T8 on a 765).

The difference being that I'm heads-up here. In the other hand we were 3-handed and the guy in the middle had already called, so he would've called a raise by me too and I would be bloating the pot with T-high (again, I agree the other hand is close).

Right table A7 on 79Q4J.

I mean the guy's playing 16/11...I think you can fold the river when that card smacks his [possibly nonexistent?] semibluff range. Many 16/11's bluffing with A or K high here?

Yeah, bad call by me. No excuse
Man, and I even commented what bad river card that was. ugh....

Left table KQo on 85335.

You're bluffing...you think he's folding Ace high on a double paired board? Or in general?

Well, it's a sucky situation. I think the odds are much better that I fold out an Ahigh and an odd K-high chop than I snap off a bluff against something like 67. And c/f seems so... weak.
I think I was also so set out to triple barrel here. Since the double paired board came runner runner, it must not have registered in the consequences for A-high on a double paired board as opposed to a normal board here.

I you.