Krakkokain
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Great video guys !!!
3:23 BJSTUD52 limps from the HJ, you decide to check with J6o, and say that you are going to donk 75% of flops can you please ellaborate on your thinking behind that please.
Also would the 25% that you dont donk consist of A high flops or 2 broadway cards on flop?
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entity u did not finish your thought here. Could you elaborate a bit?
" i think a mistake alot of players make here....."
My guess would be that it has to do with the fact that especailly on that kind of board texture nothing he is capping for a UTG position is folding (Ok maybe 99 and 88 but that's totally at the bottom of his range and like 12 combos out of his whole range) so even though the default play when flopping 2 over and a OESD is usually to raise when you're up vs a range of an unknown capping UTG and have no fold equity you're going to cost yourself money just blindly raising these spots since he ain't folding and often he's going to make you hate yourself either on the flop or turn for doing it.
Not going to speak for Rob though so bring it on sir 
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It's interesting with the A7 hand that the board just keep getting scarier. We peel twice on 432;K. When the river is a 6, if I was villain, I would assume the LAG/TAG expert has a lot of Ax hand XC twice and that there is a good chance he will muck it on this prticular river.
I also think the K is such a juicy barelling card that almost all bluffs
are still in his range after the turn.
On the other hand people v-bet sick thin these days. And I wouldn't be suprised to see him v-bet a 2. Then the question becomes if a bluff XR could be profitable.
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Just curious about your thought process in calling down this player. I don't have the reads you do so maybe you know something that I don't. I don't see players going for delayed CR semibluffs a ton. If the 4 was a club and the 5 a diamond I may be more suspicious. Perhaps I am laying down too much in these spots.
I would have folded. Perhaps this is too weak.
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Rob you mention that you would open with K8s and perhaps KTo UTG. Is this something you always do or is it due to the softness of the games? Is this a stylistic thing that opens your range and gets you more action?
I raise K9s UTG and most of the time but not always KTo in HJ. I tighten these ranges up when I have aggressive players behind me or super loose cold callers behind me. I don't see too many reasons to be OOP with marginal K high or Q high hands. Am I missing something here?
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Rob you mention that you would open with K8s and perhaps KTo UTG. Is this something you always do or is it due to the softness of the games? Is this a stylistic thing that opens your range and gets you more action?
I raise K9s UTG and most of the time but not always KTo in HJ. I tighten these ranges up when I have aggressive players behind me or super loose cold callers behind me. I don't see too many reasons to be OOP with marginal K high or Q high hands. Am I missing something here?
If you're in a game where you aren't getting 3-bet or coldcalled a ton, widening up your range UTG is generally going to be fine as players will be playing pretty straightforwardly vs. you. There are lots of games where I'd fold K8s but it shouldn't be an insta-muck, should just be one of those things that you decide based on the players acting after you and their tendencies.
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Rob when you say we should fight back by calling flop, raising turn and barrelling river are we doing this with air? What frequency are we doing this?
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Very infrequently. 
It's just the standard line you use for value, so while I probably wouldn't be taking it too often with air, it's something that you're going to have to be willing to do to compensate for the fact that you're not going to flop well always; basically what I'm saying is that if you raise super wide OTB vs. a player who fights back postflop, you're going to eventually end up in a scenario where you both flop nothing that you're going to have to try to win with air sometimes.
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This is probably pretty trivial for you guys, but curious to know why the JJ check raise on the turn by the villain here was great? My guess would be because he gets an extra BB in from our barrels and we'll call down light because of the drawy board. Am I close?
Yup, that's the gist of it. His handrange is wider than just top pair and/or draws on the turn, and by keeping his overall range a bit wider for flop c/c turn c/r, he's capable of extracting more value against a tough thinking player and being a bit harder to play against himself.
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Just curious about your thought process in calling down this player. I don't have the reads you do so maybe you know something that I don't. I don't see players going for delayed CR semibluffs a ton. If the 4 was a club and the 5 a diamond I may be more suspicious. Perhaps I am laying down too much in these spots.
I would have folded. Perhaps this is too weak.
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I don't think we can fold the turn.
So we're on to the river. It's a good board for a semi-bluff because he can expect some immediate folds. Sure, you don't see it often but until I see someone c/c c/r a hand like JJ here I assume their c/r range is semibluff and hands way better than mine, with the occasional pure bluff/junk.
By default I prefer to call down here but I'd like others to chime in.
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