Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by Hielko (Mid Stakes)

We Dutch usually have terrible accents but you really take the cake, dude. But not hating you here, the content looks good, and you make me laugh regularly.

I love the old school phone at 21:00

We Dutch usually have terrible accents but you really take the cake, dude. But not hating you here, the content looks good, and you make me laugh regularly.

Yeah, sorry about that. I probably also have to say 'like' less often

great stuff on fighting shorties

thanks for the video

edit: what is it that differs between a very very good short stack playing like 25/50, compared to these robots on lower limits? Anyone know?

Thank you Hielko, excellent video!

MOAR

edit: what is it that differs between a very very good short stack playing like 25/50, compared to these robots on lower limits? Anyone know?

I don't play 25/50, but I think some of the better shorstackers that I encounter at 2/4 and 3/6 do. And there is of not a single magic thing they do better, they just have better balanced ranges. They are for example not going to show up with an insanely high fold 3bet% such as some of the shortstackers in this vid. And they are not opening 100% oop sb vs bb, since that's super exploitable too. The better short stackers simply don't have that many leaks as the lower stakes short stackers.

I was surprised you 4bt QQ vs the utg l-RR. Is that standard? Did you have history with him or is QQ just 'felt pre everytime in 6max'. just wondering.

really good vid

I was surprised you 4bt QQ vs the utg l-RR. Is that standard? Did you have history with him or is QQ just 'felt pre everytime in 6max'. just wondering.

Besides the fact that I do indeed play QQ for stacks almost always, villain here is a laggy spewy bad player. I would love to play for stacks vs him.

This really showed me the value of paying more attention to short-stackers. I look forward to more of this series.

Like... Cool vid Hielko! Like...

Do you really like (pun not intended) your first table in the beginning of the video? You're +EV in that lineup, especially with effective stacks for all players being <30bb at the beginning so the inherent advantage of shorstacking is diminished. But your edge against the weaker player is also smaller by the shorter effective stacks. This seems like a very mediocre table to me. Maybe my table selection skills are sub-par.

As the fish got to 50bb and you were 3 handed I do like the table mind. And it got better later as well.


09:00 You 3bet KJ o oop vs a weaker player, he calls and the flop was K8x, turn Q. You bet the flop and check/called the turn. I would go for 3 streets here to get it in by the river, not many hands that beat us and a weaker player can have a fair few weaker Kx hands and 8x/pocket pairs that often call at least twice. Was there a specific reason for your line or is this your standard vs weak players?

xxx and 15:15 you folded AJo and KQo oop to the 39/10 opening from the CO. Don't you think that your skill advantage outweighs the problems with domination? That is if his range is even that tight, seems like a way too small sample to draw a conclusion? Stacks were also really good for your hand in my opinion.

31:00 You 3bet utg open in hj with AA, you bet/call J56r. I think this is an interesting spot. I think your range when calling there is heavily weighted towards hands that are going to showdown and I don't think we get many bluffs thrown at us on turn/river. How do you like a click it back, or slightly larger 3bet here to keep more potential bluffs in our range?

Also, what do you think about checking back the flop to raise the turn since we just had that other hand where we checked back and folded the turn? (Not saying checking is better than betting, just asking)


Some really good comments on shorstackers around 40-43 minutes. I feel that you overestimate your edge on MaNzAnUKi though. He's exploitable and you were certainly exploiting him better than I normally do, but I still feel that you're over estimating your rate here. Would be interesting to discuss further, maybe the comment section of your vid isn't the time or place

That being said I really like the way you play against the shorties. Would love it if you made a vid purely on that. First off list the moves you can use against them and then give some hand examples in a replayer including relevant stats. Probably not enough material for a full series named "exploiting the fucktards" or anything like that, but a vid should still be doable?

How much would you charge for all your short stack notes for all Stars MSNL shorstack regulars???

How much would you charge for all your short stack notes for all Stars MSNL shorstack regulars???

def interested too ;p

Do you really like (pun not intended) your first table in the beginning of the video? You're +EV in that lineup, especially with effective stacks for all players being <30bb at the beginning so the inherent advantage of shorstacking is diminished. But your edge against the weaker player is also smaller by the shorter effective stacks. This seems like a very mediocre table to me. Maybe my table selection skills are sub-par.

It's for sure a better table than one full of regs, and the shorter the stack of the fish, the easier it is to win it, but I agree that's certainly not a great table.

You 3bet KJ o oop vs a weaker player, he calls and the flop was K8x, turn Q. You bet the flop and check/called the turn. I would go for 3 streets here to get it in by the river, not many hands that beat us and a weaker player can have a fair few weaker Kx hands and 8x/pocket pairs that often call at least twice. Was there a specific reason for your line or is this your standard vs weak players?

I probably thought that this turn card was a bad one to get value from worse often.

you folded AJo and KQo oop to the 39/10 opening from the CO. Don't you think that your skill advantage outweighs the problems with domination? That is if his range is even that tight, seems like a way too small sample to draw a conclusion? Stacks were also really good for your hand in my opinion.

I don't think a skill advantage really matters here too much. I've I would be playing I would have to fold a lot, even after flopping TP. Playing a hand that's going to flop TP the majority of the time, and than having to fold it a lot doesn't make to much sense to me.

You 3bet utg open in hj with AA, you bet/call J56r. I think this is an interesting spot. I think your range when calling there is heavily weighted towards hands that are going to showdown and I don't think we get many bluffs thrown at us on turn/river. How do you like a click it back, or slightly larger 3bet here to keep more potential bluffs in our range?

Not unreasonable, on the other hand; it's also not unreasonable for me to call here with some marginal hands that do fold the turn. But to be honest; I don't think it's going to really matter at all. If he xr here for value he's going to play for stacks a lot and if he xr here as a bluff he's going to give up a lot.

Also, what do you think about checking back the flop to raise the turn since we just had that other hand where we checked back and folded the turn? (Not saying checking is better than betting, just asking)

Don't like it, if I want to induce bluffs I rather do it with a bluff catching hand instead of a valuebetting hand. And if I would be checking back the flop for a slowplay it doesn't make to much sense to raise the turn, rather call turn and raise river (depening on board).

That being said I really like the way you play against the shorties. Would love it if you made a vid purely on that. First off list the moves you can use against them and then give some hand examples in a replayer including relevant stats. Probably not enough material for a full series named "exploiting the fucktards" or anything like that, but a vid should still be doable?

I like the idea

How much would you charge for all your short stack notes for all Stars MSNL shorstack regulars???

It's mostly in my head, unfortunately for you.

cool video

but hey you have to admid that this isnt your typical playing style (on average about 19/17 on the 4 shown tables...whenever i see you at the nl600 tables you dominate the table with some 27/25 11% 3bet stats and playing a sort of the whitelime/krantz-style!

I would love to see a video of you playing like that

looking forward to watching this when i get home

cool video

but hey you have to admid that this isnt your typical playing style (on average about 19/17 on the 4 shown tables...whenever i see you at the nl600 tables you dominate the table with some 27/25 11% 3bet stats and playing a sort of the whitelime/krantz-style!

I would love to see a video of you playing like that

I leave it up to Whitelime and Krantz to teach how to play like them But seriously; I don't play a certain style. Sometimes I play lag because I there are a lot of spots to play a hand, sometimes I play like a nit because there aren't many good spots. And usually it's somewhere in between.

excellent video, thanks Hielko!

I dont think iv ever heard the word "like" used so frequently. Nice vid though, enjoyed the stuff on antishortstacking.

good job

Great Video!

We Dutch usually have terrible accents but you really take the cake, dude. But not hating you here, the content looks good, and you make me laugh regularly.

I love the old school phone at 21:00

i'm italian and i understand his english very well. More complicated when speak a american..

Great video! More videos of regulars of these limits!

First of all it gave me a better view on attacking the shortstackes!

A bit too much "people" like in Lex Raszi's video's but the accent is not that of a problem to a Belgian like me! (Een pak beter dan Luske's gebrabbel )

About the TT hand where you flop the nuts on the turn, I think you really must call against this kind of player on the turn in place of pushing.

He looks pretty donkish so the bluffs are more common then big pairs like you say. I see even these loose players check big hands on the turn most of the time even though they should go for 3 streets of value with that image...

Should he have a big pair he isn't folding any river, these guys are much quicker pot committed then a decent player, falls an A or K, he will still trow it in with an pair and it would be a great bluff card for him I think because you represent JJ or QQ.

That's my oppinion.