Poker Video: Pot-Limit Omaha by delcrossb (Micro/Small Stakes)

Just skimmed through the video but I think you overvalue how KKTTr plays in 3bet pots OOP. Plays kinda lame HU SPR 3 and a bit lame-er 3-way SPR 2. Not sure why you say it plays great, I would just flat here. The QJ68ss open UTG can't be good, QJT3r open from MP also pretty loose with a 56/22/25 and 65/35/20 behind.

In general I'd say I made a lot of overly loose opens for the sake of having something to talk about in the video, so if you think I make a bad open preflop I'd probably just defer to your better judgement. For the sake of the less experienced I might even go through and tag the opens that are too loose with time stamps because I don't want to give the wrong impression to people who are inexperienced preflop. After a while I felt like my relative preflop hand distribution was a bit on the weaker side so I opted to just open some marginal to bad spots for the sake of discussion and creating action.

With regard to the KKTTr hand, I don't think the 3bet is so bad. The dynamic of the hand as I recall was a CO limp followed by a BTN iso, so I'd expect both of their ranges to be fairly weak in this spot. Flatting is certainly within reason but double paired hands play fairly well in 3bet pots given their ability to flop sets, although because of how big my pairs are flatting is probably well within reason. I felt like by 3betting that spot I could get the pot heads up against a weaker range a lot of the time and get a reasonable number of folds on a lot of flop textures. If it were KKTTss I'd definitely be 3betting this spot for example, and I think that given that the limp and iso allow me to put in a bit of a larger 3bet I am okay with my play, although not completely sold that what I did was the best. What you'll notice after that hand though is that the player I end up 3betting absolutely shuts it down there and completely avoids me at the table all together, which allowed me to constantly iso the guy playing 100% vpip at the table. I will often attack BTN opening ranges from the SB early on to discourage people from stealing the BTN too much, which has the added benefit of buying me the BTN in future CO vs BTN scenarios. That is essentially what happened here. I certainly didn't have time to explain all this in the video, so I hope people check the comments .

I will often attack BTN opening ranges from the SB early on to discourage people from stealing the BTN too much

This sounds like a nightmare, I find this creates more bad situations than good ones. We're creating 3b pots oop when we're pretty much readless. I don't even think 3b'ing really discourages people that much, especially when they're otb, they just say "lol position, I win." Unless button is really terrible and easy to play vs I probably only 3b strong hands in that spot (not just high card equity favs, just good hands in general).

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
KsKcThTd 50.90% (296,103 wins, 18,605 ties)
12% 49.10% (285,292 wins, 18,605 ties)

It isn't so bad a hand. It is also relatively easy to play OOP.

I suppose I should have been more clear. If I feel there is a spot early on where I can 3bet a BTN opener with a hand I think is reasonable to play, I will take it. Readless I don't mind playing taking a higher variance route early in a session so I can get a feel for how someone is going to treat these situations. I also expect to be 3betting when I am in the BTN vs the same player a reasonable amount, so what I will do is try to make some early 3bets IP and OOP and then adjust accordingly.

I wasn't really talking about a specific hand, more the little strategy nugget I quoted. I just don't think attempting to discourage people to open on the button works out that well a lot of the time.

I wasn't really talking about a specific hand, more the little strategy nugget I quoted. I just don't think attempting to discourage people to open on the button works out that well a lot of the time.

It depends on their particular play style, and how much variance they are willing to absorb. On pokerstars in particular there are a lot of players who are grinding for VPPs and so they are going to be playing a lot tighter and with too narrow a stack off range on the flop. In that case 3betting them tends to show a good profit just because they aren't going to fight back enough in 3bet pots by way of shipping in their stack.

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
KsKcThTd 50.90% (296,103 wins, 18,605 ties)
12% 49.10% (285,292 wins, 18,605 ties)

It isn't so bad a hand. It is also relatively easy to play OOP.

Just to be clear I didn't say it was a bad hand equity-wise, just that it plays bad in 3bet pots OOP mostly because it's rainbow and SPR is still 3 when HU or 2 when 3-way. It's easy to play when you flop a set but otherwise it's also easy enough to find flops where you want to bet for protection and to take the bloated pot down but then likely end up stacking off bad because we're committed after betting. If it was single-suited there's more flops you can hit and be happy with, and if it were double-suited it'd be a super easy 3bet since we hit like 45% of flops. Rainbow it goes down to like ~25% of good flops and then there's a steep drop-off and we fail to have that back-door boost equity and usually not dominating a pair + draw hand that's such a big part of people's stacking off range, especially if the board comes with a suit. With reads it could be OK, say if you had seen the limper limp-fold and if the other guy has been iso-raising single-paired hands or stuff like that or gave up too much post-flop, but pretty early in a session I don't like putting my stack at risk with a rainbow hand just to get a feel for how someone will treat this situation, I just assume they'll treat it by calling most of their range and trying to outflop AA** like 85%+ of PLO players treat the situation.

orestto, all good points. They should've had you make this vid