Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by Grindcore (Mid Stakes)

awesome!

Seriously DC members if u reqognize a coach making a video don`t say it in chatbox.

Because of this moneyprinting guy on the 4th table, everything what happends there from 3minutes + is a bit tainted action.

Video loses a bit of it`s educational value, when everybody is like "oh man im a on video"
"Fish knows that there is a poker coach on the table" (not likely that he does anything different though, but still i would like to know that fish doesnt know that he is on a video)

EDIT: to grindcore: at 16 minute mark every table has players who know you are and you are already making comments "i dont do this because he knows im making a video". And not to mention that limp rr thingy(he isnt raising your limp with any two when he knows that u almost never limp).

So in future i hope you switch those tables out where your play is becoming tainted by the fact that you know that he knows your making a video. It`s just you give DC two awesome videos a month and when one of them loses a lot of it`s value because the issues i explained, it`s a pretty big loss...

I agree with BarneyStintson. If I see a DC member at the tables I don't go "dc is in the house, sup?" or anything. Just note the guy and keep playing and don't scare the fish away. It's just stupid imo.

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Isn`t it a bit loose to call a 3bet oop against 14/11 and a BB-coldcall with AQo. My standard would be a fold. Am I too tight?

how is any fish gonna know what i mean by "dc vid"?
and btw i played exactly the way i normally play (28/22) without getting video-fancy once....
actually i was 14-tabling at the time.

i tried to keep a low profile,but i probably shouldnt have asked when its coming out, sorry for that

how is any fish gonna know what i mean by "dc vid"?
and btw i played exactly the way i normally play (28/22) without getting video-fancy once....
actually i was 14-tabling at the time.

Your chatbox thingy caused it to be a bit dull video, because in grindcores mind it became a "video leveling war" between 1/3rd of the seats, not many of us are intrested in seeing that imo.

Your chatbox thingy caused it to be a bit dull video, because in grindcores mind it became a "video leveling war" between 1/3rd of the seats, not many of us are intrested in seeing that imo.

mh kinda true. from the very first second he thought i would play back at him when in reality i did not once. tho thats his problem imo, i will keep my mouth shut next time

EDIT: to grindcore: at 16 minute mark every table has players who know you are and you are already making comments "i dont do this because he knows im making a video". And not to mention that limp rr thingy(he isnt raising your limp with any two when he knows that u almost never limp).

So in future i hope you switch those tables out where your play is becoming tainted by the fact that you know that he knows your making a video. It`s just you give DC two awesome videos a month and when one of them loses a lot of it`s value because the issues i explained, it`s a pretty big loss...

I limp alot in BvB against players that are gonna play back at me, it's not a rare play and I'm limpfolding or limpcalling a bunch aswell. I just didn't get in many spots to do so this video. And I think there's a decent chance I'd get raised by ATC there, or atleast with a range that's wider than his callingrange when I raise myself. I think you're a bit results oriented because he woke up with AK there, but I'm 100% sure limpraising for value there was a good play.

Also, my style is based on playing vs individual players rather than just having a certain game. I think it was demonstrated pretty well in this video because I was employing totally different preflop strategies on all tables. And even when you're grinding yourself you'll end up playing against natural LAG players playing similar like the TAGs recognizing me and playing back would play. I thought there was a pretty good player type distribution in this video. Nits, shortstacks, fish, standard TAGs, LAGs, positions vs them being different on all tables etc. And even if soemone recognizes me and stays quiet, he'll still adjust his play against me because he's on a video. Me knowing it or not won't change a thing. If anything, from knowing it I can immediately adjust instead of having to find out they're LAG first. And also by playing against DC members (presumably decent/good regulars) I should get into harder and thus more educational spots.

Isn`t it a bit loose to call a 3bet oop against 14/11 and a BB-coldcall with AQo. My standard would be a fold. Am I too tight?

The coldcaller would usually have cold 4b with hands that dominate AQ and I'm getting better potodds to take a flop now. If you're not comfortable playing postflop then you should probably fold, but if you know what you're doing it's ok to call.

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Could you please explain why are you 4 bet / calling 66 in this spot when this player has already seen you stack off with KQ BvB?

There's a difference between 4b/calling and 5b-shoving. My 5b shoving KQ on him probably means I'm capable of cold 4b bluffing aswell so he could 5b jam air. He might also be 3betting 22-55 from the SB which are generally good hands to 5b jam. He might also be flatting some premiums pre to let me squeeze so that takes them out of his 3betting range. It's close but I think 66 had enough equity to call a shove, which combined with the folds I'd get from the 4b would make it better than folding pre.

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There was a ridiculous amount of 3betting throughout the whole video. Your main adjustment was mostly by 4bet bluffing and 4bet for value wider. If you had raised to 7$ here and villain would have made it 22-24, would you consider flatting here with QJs OOP considering that you are likely ahead of a 10%+ 3betting range? If not is it because 100bb deep you don't like to call 3bets OOP or you would consider flatting other hands than QJs OOP?

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So any offsuit a, k, (q), j, t, 9 is a 3 barrel here? Does that include a diamond?

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22-44 UTG , now that i know the pros and cons to opening these UTG what are the factors that make you decide if you want to play them at a given limit or table ??

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Bit of a spew, since the button is so tight?!

dont like the 5bet shove with KQo, its BvB ok, but still, not a big fan of it....

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Would you donkbet the turn if it was an 8 or 3 of hearts? Or would you check-raise?

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What if he fires a 2nd barrel? You can float the flop with air and there are a bunch of draws as well. You plan on calling the turn and giving up on the river?

the 4bet/call with 66 is spew IMHO

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i think you should fold 33 here with this metagame against these villains

i think you should fold 33 here with this metagame against these villains

No, I have really good implied odds against people who are gonna play over aggro and give me less credit postflop.

There was a ridiculous amount of 3betting throughout the whole video. Your main adjustment was mostly by 4bet bluffing and 4bet for value wider. If you had raised to 7$ here and villain would have made it 22-24, would you consider flatting here with QJs OOP considering that you are likely ahead of a 10%+ 3betting range? If not is it because 100bb deep you don't like to call 3bets OOP or you would consider flatting other hands than QJs OOP?

No, it's still a fold. I explain right after how horrible calling is because of villains depolarized 3betting range. I should mostly 4b/fold against a depolarized range.

So any offsuit a, k, (q), j, t, 9 is a 3 barrel here? Does that include a diamond?

Any river improving me to 2pair+ and completing the flush is a c/f, any other river a jam.

Bit of a spew, since the button is so tight?!

Yeah I overlooked button being so tight. Had I seen it I'd have folded preflop. I think I mentioned it right after in the video? Still, BU could be a reg that folds to alot of 3bets or something. If BU had standard TAG stats or looser it's fine to 4b/call against an over aggro player.

the 4bet/call with 66 is spew IMHO

Don't just say stuff like that, explain why and be more specific please. Your 2 comments in here are useless this way and it's hard for me to respond to it.

Do you think the cold 4b bluff is bad, or the call? Against a 5betting range of all premiums, 1 small pair and 1 single suited overcards bluff, which is 5.4% of starting hands, I have almost 42% equity. There's no way I can 4b/fold there. And if villain is 3betting 14% or more there I'm getting enough folds to justify the cold 4b bluff, and I'd estimate him 15-20% there at the time. The estimation was probably off because of the PFR being tight, which I overlooked at the time and pointed out right after the hand. If the PFR was more standard TAG or looser I think it's ok to do it.

Any river improving me to 2pair+ and completing the flush is a c/f, any other river a jam.

Ok. Since the board is two tone on the turn (flop with two clubs (if i remember) and on turn als two diamonds), is "completing the flush" only a club on the river, or also a diamond?

No, I have really good implied odds against people who are gonna play over aggro and give me less credit postflop.

Hrmmm, my thought process here is completely different.

Considering said opponent was one to comment in chat, I think your pf play w/33 here is fantastic with the "afraid to look silly on video" factor in play. In high stake limit games, DeathDonkey has been known to pull off incredible c/r river bluffs based on the "omg, if I call I'm going to look silly" factor. I would think such an adjustment could be made here as well.

Ok. Since the board is two tone on the turn (flop with two clubs (if i remember) and on turn als two diamonds), is "completing the flush" only a club on the river, or also a diamond?

My bad, clubs.

Hrmmm, my thought process here is completely different.

Considering said opponent was one to comment in chat, I think your pf play w/33 here is fantastic with the "afraid to look silly on video" factor in play. In high stake limit games, DeathDonkey has been known to pull off incredible c/r river bluffs based on the "omg, if I call I'm going to look silly" factor. I would think such an adjustment could be made here as well.

Not when your image is that you win by making them fold

If villain is guaranteed to fire 2 barrels and has 0% equity when I flop a set, I'm already priced in to setmine against his air with no further implied odds. Ofcourse he has more equity on average, and won't always 2barrel, but he'll also put in more than 2 bets a bunch, and this has to happen at a much lower frequency to make up for it because of exponential pot growth. My plan is to play pretty fit/fold postflop with a hand like that. I'll get out of line with suited connecters etc.

One thing I just thought of though... Maybe people are more inclined to fold bluffcatchers when they know they get to see my cards in the video. Hmm, maybe you're right actually... Which reminds me of the AQ hand where I bet 3bbs into the huge pot on the river to get a curiousity call from air, but he could just fold and watch the video. I should just have checked back.

Don't just say stuff like that, explain why and be more specific please. Your 2 comments in here are useless this way and it's hard for me to respond to it.

Do you think the cold 4b bluff is bad, or the call? Against a 5betting range of all premiums, 1 small pair and 1 single suited overcards bluff, which is 5.4% of starting hands, I have almost 42% equity. There's no way I can 4b/fold there. And if villain is 3betting 14% or more there I'm getting enough folds to justify the cold 4b bluff, and I'd estimate him 15-20% there at the time. The estimation was probably off because of the PFR being tight, which I overlooked at the time and pointed out right after the hand. If the PFR was more standard TAG or looser I think it's ok to do it.

The call of the shove was spewy at first sight. Maybe I am totally wrong, but when I was watching the vid, I was like, "oh my god, how can he call a shove with 66".

I am not math guy, more of a "feel" player. But people shove lite at nl200 I guess?

I didnt want to sound rude though, just couldnt follow your reasoning for calling the shove.

Thanks!

No, it's still a fold. I explain right after how horrible calling is because of villains depolarized 3betting range. I should mostly 4b/fold against a depolarized range.

How do you know that villain had a depolarized range for 3-betting? I dont understand why he cant have non-value hands in his 3-betting range? He was 3-betting a ton, shouldnt he have some crap hands in his range?

How do you know that villain had a depolarized range for 3-betting? I dont understand why he cant have non-value hands in his 3-betting range? He was 3-betting a ton, shouldnt he have some crap hands in his range?

No, because he never flatcalled a raise. He played 3b/fold in position. I pulled up pokerstove right after to explain. When you have no callingrange, it doesn't make sense to fold an OK hand and later 3b trash. You fold the trash and 3b the OK hand instead. Later on he did flat a raise, so that had to be a small/mid pocketpair mostly, and maybe something suited, but not a hand like KQ, which I exploit by triple barreling him almost 100% on alot of boards where he either has a set or a marginal bluffcatcher, as happened later on in the vid.

No, because he never flatcalled a raise. He played 3b/fold in position. I pulled up pokerstove right after to explain. When you have no callingrange, it doesn't make sense to fold an OK hand and later 3b trash. You fold the trash and 3b the OK hand instead. Later on he did flat a raise, so that had to be a small/mid pocketpair mostly, and maybe something suited, but not a hand like KQ, which I exploit by triple barreling him almost 100% on alot of boards where he either has a set or a marginal bluffcatcher, as happened later on in the vid.

Ok, thanks man!

Awesome vid Grindcore. Could you explain you HUD stats? Sorry if I missed it but I don't think you've done that in a vid yet.

you ever use a 'jump to conclusions mat' in ur decision making process?

you ever use a 'jump to conclusions mat' in ur decision making process?

A what?

Awesome vid Grindcore. Could you explain you HUD stats? Sorry if I missed it but I don't think you've done that in a vid yet.

name/hands
VPIP/PFR/AF/AFq/steal
3b/f3b/squeeze/cbet/fcbet

Great video

mh kinda true. from the very first second he thought i would play back at him when in reality i did not once. tho thats his problem imo, i will keep my mouth shut next time

I anticipated it, and appearantly you just went on a cardrush making it look like you did. If there's a good chance you'll open up your game and you actually end up playing 30+ vpip and 3betting all over the place I'd be making a mistake treating you like a standard TAG. Where there's smoke there's usually a fire. You also started appearing on all my tables so it looked like you searched me and intentionally sat at all of them to appear on the video, not like you were actually 14 tabling. Just odd coincidence I guess, but that's poker. The player making the best guesses will have the highest winrate, but you can never be sure.

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And the ladies too, I hope!

And the ladies too, I hope!

I did things with the ladies most men wouldn't even come up with.

IPoker Network $2000.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 428115
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BB: $1105.00
Hero (UTG): $4505.00
MP: $2807.00
CO: $1940.00
BTN: $2000.00
SB: $3515.50

Pre Flop: ($30.00) Hero is UTG with Q Q
Hero raises to $80, MP calls $80, 3 folds, BB calls $60

Flop: ($250.00) 6 3 2 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $165.00, BB folds, Hero calls $165

Turn: ($580.00) A (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $400.00, Hero calls $400

River: ($1380.00) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $2162.00, Hero calls $2162

Final Pot: $5704.00
MP shows K J
Hero wins $5701.00
(Rake: $3.00)

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88 on table 4 - do you think it might be better to make a smaller raise here, for example $76, possibly allowing him to shove over you with draws and weak hands that simply cannot call a shove?

your live sweat vids are really good btw. i would love to see you play in some tougher, higher stakes games.

completely agree, don't out the video or coach. this was a bunch of analyzing the play of a player who knows hes on camera, and their 15% 3bet ended up being AA/KK

i tried to keep a low profile,but i probably shouldnt have asked when its coming out, sorry for that

Man, are they drama queens or what? You really got told by the guy who has been a member for two months, whatever, And your a 200nl reg. You tell him whats up, not the other way around. lol. We don't need 9 posts on the subject, go to the forums for that.

wow can't believe you folded your straight to tweligen.. i thought it was comon knowledge that on FTP people will bet when check to 100% of the time, seeing his has a sign of weakness.. even if they have showdown value..

you saw that in 5mins with mofoshoho(known breakeven reg) 2 barreling and folding to 6$ bet on AKx.. people dont read hands, they sit there and bet bet untill they get scared.. or call call untill you decide to check then they shove

Lol, about FTP 200nl regs, since GC's theory video came out, people have started to check back 77 etc a lot more on a broadway x x -flops and bluffcatch broadway turn and rivers...firing turn and river OOP was good as long as it lasted...;-)

wow can't believe you folded your straight to tweligen.. i thought it was comon knowledge that on FTP people will bet when check to 100% of the time, seeing his has a sign of weakness.. even if they have showdown value..

you saw that in 5mins with mofoshoho(known breakeven reg) 2 barreling and folding to 6$ bet on AKx.. people dont read hands, they sit there and bet bet untill they get scared.. or call call untill you decide to check then they shove

I don't know any regs on FTP as I don't play there and I'm not using PTR while playing because I don't wanna get banned. I folded my straight because him playing 3b/fold thus his callingrange has to be speculative. If he jammed a non-set pocket pair there as a bluff, wp by him, but most SSNL players take showdowns with showdownvalue.

88 on table 4 - do you think it might be better to make a smaller raise here, for example $76, possibly allowing him to shove over you with draws and weak hands that simply cannot call a shove?

your live sweat vids are really good btw. i would love to see you play in some tougher, higher stakes games.

Yes I should make a smaller raise so he can 3b with draws that I'm now pricing out, that was a mistake.

I don't know any regs on FTP as I don't play there and I'm not using PTR while playing because I don't wanna get banned. I folded my straight because him playing 3b/fold thus his callingrange has to be speculative. If he jammed a non-set pocket pair there as a bluff, wp by him, but most SSNL players take showdowns with showdownvalue.

Did you notice that he insta-shoved and you were sat out? I think he was bluffing and trying to get you to auto-fold...

Did you notice that he insta-shoved and you were sat out? I think he was bluffing and trying to get you to auto-fold...

Hmm I missed that, but I did insta sat back in. He could also just have minbet, which is quicker than shoving, if that were his intentions. But you're right this makes it more of a call as it increases the odds of him shoving 88 or so there. On iPoker you only auto-check, you don't sit out and instafold to any bet, so I'm not used to this

completely agree, don't out the video or coach. this was a bunch of analyzing the play of a player who knows hes on camera, and their 15% 3bet ended up being AA/KK

I agree somewhat with this, but don't think if you see nothing in chat that the regs don't recognize that someone could be recording a vid. I would not consider myself a well known player (far from it), but at the same time I've often received comments from random regs making me realize that they know who I am, and what stakes I normally play. And if someone like whitelime sits down at 400NL you can be sure that all the regs know what's going on.

Seriously DC members if u reqognize a coach making a video don`t say it in chatbox.

Because of this moneyprinting guy on the 4th table, everything what happends there from 3minutes + is a bit tainted action.

Video loses a bit of it`s educational value, when everybody is like "oh man im a on video"
"Fish knows that there is a poker coach on the table" (not likely that he does anything different though, but still i would like to know that fish doesnt know that he is on a video)

EDIT: to grindcore: at 16 minute mark every table has players who know you are and you are already making comments "i dont do this because he knows im making a video". And not to mention that limp rr thingy(he isnt raising your limp with any two when he knows that u almost never limp).

So in future i hope you switch those tables out where your play is becoming tainted by the fact that you know that he knows your making a video. It`s just you give DC two awesome videos a month and when one of them loses a lot of it`s value because the issues i explained, it`s a pretty big loss...

QFT

Money Printing I hope you read this - you are a fking retard.

QFT

Money Printing I hope you read this - you are a fking retard.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/
Don't bring your hate on DC. Also EPTPE

QFT

Money Printing I hope you read this - you are a fking retard.

You realize that nobody plays different when theres a video in the making?
Most breakeven(aka most regs) FTP regs play like spewmonkeys 24/7.

Money making is the only player at the tables that played half decent too.

Seriously DC members if u reqognize a coach making a video don`t say it in chatbox.

stdrd shout is "holla"

lol @ "playing my standard game 28/22" and "14-tabling". does not compute.

hi bart.

Thanks for another great video. I wanted to make a suggestion for one of the remaining videos in the series if you haven't already planned them all.

I loved the first video the most and found the theoretical information the best I have ever heard. There was so much 3betting and 4betting going on in this video and my suggestion would be to do a theoretical video like the first one where you lay out what types of ranges you would 3bet and 4bet with vs. different opponents. As an example, if he is 3betting 13% and the top 13% of hands what do I 4bet, what do I fold, what do I call, etc...if he is 3betting a polarized range how do I combat that??

I know you have talked about this in your videos and the 3betting and 4betting have really peaked my interest to understand them even deeper. I recently started playing 50nl and there is so much 3betting going on and I am trying to learn how to combat it. I assume the aggression gets even tougher as I move up.

Thanks for the great vids!

lol @ "playing my standard game 28/22" and "14-tabling". does not compute.

hi bart.

usually its 12, sometimes 16
i used to play age of empires

donktard is obviously one of the nl200 regs i own every day

No, it's still a fold. I explain right after how horrible calling is because of villains depolarized 3betting range. I should mostly 4b/fold against a depolarized range.

So then what should you have done in this spot w/ QJs vs. a LAG or TAG that has a polarized 3bet range? Are you calling almost 100% of the time 100bb deep, occasionally 4bet bluffing, occasionally folding? This situation comes up very often in CO v BTN situations where we're OOP against a polarized range. Against this type of polarized range, what ranges are you looking to flat OOP? What ranges are you looking to 4bet, either as a bluff, or for value? What ranges are you looking to just fold? Granted a lot of this depends on metagame, images, and villain's postflop tendencies. How would you answer the above questions if effective stacks were much deeper?

People that 3bet polarized want you to 4b/fold. Their preflop 3betting range is sub-optimal for playing 3b pots. Playing 4b/fold against them is doing what they want you to do. If an opponent is 3betting AK/QQ+ for value and flatting AQ KQ JJ AJ, then QJs is a very strong hand against his 3betting range assuming he does 3b at a pretty high frequency, because you're actually dominating him more often than the other way around when you hit, so you can just take flops. If he's 3betting TT+/AQ+ for value and only a few bluffs, calling QJs starts sucking again. And if he's 3betting KJ+ AJ+ 99+ and no bluffs (depolarized) calling is burning money. It's all about his range. But a general adjustment to polarized 3betting ranges is to take flops.

Once you start calling, villains correct adjustment is to depolarize his 3betting range, for which you can punish him again by 4b/folding because now he's wasting hands like KQ etc while he might aswell have used K8s instead. At small stakes most players play a certain strategy and don't really adjust though, so you don't really have to worry about counter adjustments (but keep paying attention nontheless). If he's 3betting polarized and you start flatting, they'll usually keep 3betting polarized because that's just what they do. 2 perfect players would probably 3bet and flat eachother preflop (and defend to 3bets with 4bets and calls) with all sorts of hands at very good mixed frequencies, rather than always doing 1 thing. In reality doing 1 thing is the most profitable play 95% of the time.

People that 3bet polarized want you to 4b/fold. Their preflop 3betting range is sub-optimal for playing 3b pots. Playing 4b/fold against them is doing what they want you to do.

Yes and no. They expect that you will 4bet or fold, but they want you to fold. If you 4bet a wide range you will own them too.

If someone is 3betting a very wide, but polarized range you should be 4betting with a high frequency and if his range is polarized he has just two options.

1. One he's going to fold a lot against 4bets and you can 4bet crap preflop, and call mid strength hands.
2. He's going to play back by 5bet shoving crap, and you own him by 4betting a depolarized range.

And if you do both with a good frequency (read: your 4bet/calling range is wide enough that he cannot 5bet shove air as a bluff +EV preflop) he is forced to make an adjustment; 1. 3bet less, or 2. 3bet a depolarized range, and be willing to get it in light for value preflop.

And the fun thing is ofcourse that you can use this strategy at the same time as calling mid strenght hands preflop vs the 3bet since not all mid strength hands have the same postflop playability or hot and cold equity.

I did things with the ladies most men wouldn't even come up with.

IPoker Network $2000.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 428115
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BB: $1105.00
Hero (UTG): $4505.00
MP: $2807.00
CO: $1940.00
BTN: $2000.00
SB: $3515.50

Pre Flop: ($30.00) Hero is UTG with Q Q
Hero raises to $80, MP calls $80, 3 folds, BB calls $60

Flop: ($250.00) 6 3 2 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $165.00, BB folds, Hero calls $165

Turn: ($580.00) A (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $400.00, Hero calls $400

River: ($1380.00) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $2162.00, Hero calls $2162

Final Pot: $5704.00
MP shows K J
Hero wins $5701.00
(Rake: $3.00)

I don't understand.

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In the 33 hand on table 3 it looks like you were thinking about betting the flop. Are you actually considering donking there or did you just think you were the pfr or something?

In the 33 hand on table 3 it looks like you were thinking about betting the flop. Are you actually considering donking there or did you just think you were the pfr or something?

It's very hard (almost impossible) to think about a hand while talking about another. I was on some rant about something so I was probably just spazzing there as it's a super clear c/f.

awesome video, grindcore. Please, make more of these!

Nice video but damn you run good!

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You don't really talk about his calling range in this spot on the turn. Aren't you worried that you are shoving into his Jx type hand? I could really imagine him taking a free card with a QJ, KJ type hand on the flop.

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Why do you absolutely exclude the possibility of him having A4s or A6s, he seems like a pretty loose opener at that point.

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I think a nitty looking fullstacker would never ever raise here as a bluff

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I seriously doubt that this a is a "pretty standard" backshove on 200nl, especially if villain hasn't really been squeezing you a lot at all. Also, I think any at least semi-decent hand reader can play perfectly vs your shove as you almost always show up with a mid-pp here.

You don't really talk about his calling range in this spot on the turn. Aren't you worried that you are shoving into his Jx type hand? I could really imagine him taking a free card with a QJ, KJ type hand on the flop.

Just because you might be beat or can be called doesn't mean a play is not +EV. He might also fold QJ/KJ on the river because what does he beat?

Why do you absolutely exclude the possibility of him having A4s or A6s, he seems like a pretty loose opener at that point.

I think he'd bet river, and if he did check, he might even value c/r when I underbet.

I think a nitty looking fullstacker would never ever raise here as a bluff

Yep, this was kinda like the AK hand that was going on at the same time. He's not doing it with worse for value and unlikely bluffing. Though the samplesize of his tightness was really small, I think it was indeed a fold. And even if he is bluffing, he likely has outs or might follow up if a draw that he doesn't have hits.

I seriously doubt that this a is a "pretty standard" backshove on 200nl, especially if villain hasn't really been squeezing you a lot at all. Also, I think any at least semi-decent hand reader can play perfectly vs your shove as you almost always show up with a mid-pp here.

I believe villain had been playing quite aggro against me? Maybe not in particular on the squeezing area, but it's definitely safe to assume that an aggro reg has a big squeeze bluffing range there. And you're wrong about the last 2 assumptions. You almost never get herocalled there, and I also do have premiums in my range there. If BB was a nit I'd be 3betting premiums 100% of the time, but with an aggro reg sitting there I need some big hands in my SB flatting range.

I believe villain had been playing quite aggro against me? Maybe not in particular on the squeezing area, but it's definitely safe to assume that an aggro reg has a big squeeze bluffing range there. And you're wrong about the last 2 assumptions. You almost never get herocalled there, and I also do have premiums in my range there. If BB was a nit I'd be 3betting premiums 100% of the time, but with an aggro reg sitting there I need some big hands in my SB flatting range.

Thank you for your answers.
I think you can be herocalled there a lot by BB if you shove your SB like that if BTN had a normal steal pct. Maybe specifically YOU won't be called as they give you credit for trapping w/ big pairs there, but normally, at least in my experience on 200nl you will be called there even by their semi-bluff squeeze (just as w/ KQo in the other situation a few orbits later on table 4) range like broadways down to JTo as most regs just shove there with pocket pairs out of frustration.
I think this play would be a lot better if you have already been squeezed 2 or 3 times and you folded to them.

Thank you for your answers.
I think you can be herocalled there a lot by BB if you shove your SB like that if BTN had a normal steal pct. Maybe specifically YOU won't be called as they give you credit for trapping w/ big pairs there, but normally, at least in my experience on 200nl you will be called there even by their semi-bluff squeeze (just as w/ KQo in the other situation a few orbits later on table 4) range like broadways down to JTo as most regs just shove there with pocket pairs out of frustration.
I think this play would be a lot better if you have already been squeezed 2 or 3 times and you folded to them.

Note that if they're herocalling broadways I'm still in pretty good shape when called:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 45.551% 45.21% 00.35% 789529452 6042624.00 { 33 }
Hand 1: 54.449% 54.10% 00.35% 944935380 6042624.00 { TT+, ATs+, KQs, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }

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You say he most likely doesn't have an Ace..then he pots the river which busts the FD and you insta fold. Any merit to calling? If you say no but it's close..what about KQ ?

You say he most likely doesn't have an Ace..then he pots the river which busts the FD and you insta fold. Any merit to calling? If you say no but it's close..what about KQ ?

When he pots he does have an ace and he's just a fish.

When he pots he does have an ace and he's just a fish.

Hmm, mind to detail this thought a bit? It seems to me that fish often want to get 50%ish value with their tp and PSB busted draws.

Hmm, mind to detail this thought a bit? It seems to me that fish often want to get 50%ish value with their tp and PSB busted draws.

There's a button to pot. Fish click buttons. Sure some fish go 50%, but also the majority of non-fish shortstackers don't potbet with anything, so if you narrow the player types down with Bayesian probability you can be pretty sure he's just a fish with an ace there.

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Not a single 3-bet in 8 hands

very good work . thank you

name/hands
VPIP/PFR/AF/AFq/steal
3b/f3b/squeeze/cbet/fcbet

It seems to be name/hands/something which is always "-", "0" or 100

Ah, probably fold to 3b on button, and if you mouse over it you get 3b vs position and fold to 3b from position stats in a popup.

Thanks. Great video (as always) btw!