Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by BigBadBabar (High Stakes)

Time Link to 00:11:53

fyi i have my volume at max and the audio is really quiet. if there's a way for you guys to turn up the volume for the whole vid it would probably be a good idea.

during all my coaching sessions with BBB as well as a few of his latest vids the volume goes from completely normal to almost silent. I brought it up while we were on skype on night and he confirmed it's not his mouth placement.

Huge problem imo 10:50 great example.

it's weird. i recorded these 2 vids (7 and 8) back to back, same settings, no changes, etc.

were you channeling your inner NPR host?

were you channeling your inner NPR host?

i don't know what to say. the microphone jack ninja'd its way 25% out of the socket? i mean really.

during all my coaching sessions with BBB as well as a few of his latest vids the volume goes from completely normal to almost silent. I brought it up while we were on skype on night and he confirmed it's not his mouth placement.

Huge problem imo 10:50 great example.

I will take a look but often times raising the volume means more static that I cannot isolate and remove.
-Rusty

any comments about hands? heh

Time Link to 00:07:24

I think the river is really close here. I disagree with you a bit about whether or not Tx will call - I think it's a spot where Tx should probably fold but most people call anyway. Maybe it's not even that bad for them to call since the pot is big and your line looks goofy to them.

The counter argument is as you point out - a player who is bad and passive (as villain likely is given his PF cold call of 2.5 bets) could very easily play an ace this way.

You seemed hesitant to b/f but I think it's a pretty easy fold if we get raised. Remember the guy is passive - if we want to argue he can play Ax this way then I really doubt he bluffs Qx, Jx, or turns Tx into a bluff on this river.

So given all that I tend to think we should bet here.

That said, I didn't do a Stove and I suspect that we could 'prove' either side to be correct (either by increasing his Ax combos or upping the frequency with which he calls with Tx, 88, etc.).

Time Link to 00:00:15

I feel like we need to continue here. Even though you're 'only' getting 6:1 I think that's good enough given that we're closing the action, have good IO (good relative position, 2 streets to come, both with larger bets), and relatively little RIO (rainbow board, not connected, we hold non-dominated cards).

Actually I think there's a case to be made for leading here in part to preserve our equity and essentially make sure we see the turn. I don't have a strong preference about leading or checking, but I do think now that the action has gone so well for us (after checking) we should call.

Time Link to 00:27:58

Edited: nm - you caught it a few second later.

spotify capped PF. There's $117 in the pot: $120 minus $3 rake. That's 12 small bets / 3 players = 4 bets apiece.

I guess technically it's possible that the BB cold capped, but that's unlikely given that he checked the flop.

I think the river is really close here. I disagree with you a bit about whether or not Tx will call - I think it's a spot where Tx should probably fold but most people call anyway. Maybe it's not even that bad for them to call since the pot is big and your line looks goofy to them.

The counter argument is as you point out - a player who is bad and passive (as villain likely is given his PF cold call of 2.5 bets) could very easily play an ace this way.

You seemed hesitant to b/f but I think it's a pretty easy fold if we get raised. Remember the guy is passive - if we want to argue he can play Ax this way then I really doubt he bluffs Qx, Jx, or turns Tx into a bluff on this river.

So given all that I tend to think we should bet here.

That said, I didn't do a Stove and I suspect that we could 'prove' either side to be correct (either by increasing his Ax combos or upping the frequency with which he calls with Tx, 88, etc.).

yeah, you make a good point that Tx may be more likely to call since i took what may appear to a bad-ish player as a "weird" line. i would be shocked to get raised but i think you're right that it would just be some lolmonster and i could bet/fold pretty confidently. i don't think he's raising me on the river with say just Ax. if i had a bigger sample size on him and could see that he was a higher wtsd kind of guy, say 36 or 38 or 40 (high high for fullring) then i think i like a bet even more. if he's some sort of weird like 22/9 guy who has like a wtsd of 32 then i don't like a bet. i agree with you also that we could probably massage stove re: pf ranges and get roughly whatever conclusion we want.

I feel like we need to continue here. Even though you're 'only' getting 6:1 I think that's good enough given that we're closing the action, have good IO (good relative position, 2 streets to come, both with larger bets), and relatively little RIO (rainbow board, not connected, we hold non-dominated cards).

Actually I think there's a case to be made for leading here in part to preserve our equity and essentially make sure we see the turn. I don't have a strong preference about leading or checking, but I do think now that the action has gone so well for us (after checking) we should call.

all i see are dudes coming after my peanuts!

Edited: nm - you caught it a few second later.

spotify capped PF. There's $117 in the pot: $120 minus $3 rake. That's 12 small bets / 3 players = 4 bets apiece.

I guess technically it's possible that the BB cold capped, but that's unlikely given that he checked the flop.

yes, there's about 2 minutes here of me sounding like a moron and rewinding the action over and over

I feel like we need to continue here. Even though you're 'only' getting 6:1 I think that's good enough given that we're closing the action, have good IO (good relative position, 2 streets to come, both with larger bets), and relatively little RIO (rainbow board, not connected, we hold non-dominated cards).

Actually I think there's a case to be made for leading here in part to preserve our equity and essentially make sure we see the turn. I don't have a strong preference about leading or checking, but I do think now that the action has gone so well for us (after checking) we should call.

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i really like your arguments here. i think i leveled myself into folding here when it seems like a straightforward continue once you lay it out like that. i'm not as sold on leading since i dislike a raise from someone soon after me which then knocks most everyone else out. but once i check and it goes bet and everyone calls, like you said - this is my ideal scenario - so i need to call. and bing it out on the turn obv.

Time Link to 00:39:50

Id always check fold here , dudes are never bluffing at least not 18/13 guys. If he had a super wide flop calling range and was ineducable then i could see how check calling river would be a good play , but not vs this guy.

http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/3121-Episode-Eight?seek=2611

I'm sorry i didnt hear you here because the mic was low but i think you said you'd prefer betting the turn here with the A9o on T83K vs big37guy because he seemed to be on the passive side from your previous observations of him posting in the CO. IF you bet the turn i assume your checking back river UI with A9 here and hope to see something Ax beats. Just trying to clarify.

Id always check fold here , dudes are never bluffing at least not 18/13 guys. If he had a super wide flop calling range and was ineducable then i could see how check calling river would be a good play , but not vs this guy.

yeah, i mean i've played vs him some at 6m i think and i remember him being lagtaggy, and 18/13 is reasonably aggressive for a fr game. but i agree with you that the board has come pretty meh for me.

http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/3121-Episode-Eight?seek=2611

I'm sorry i didnt hear you here because the mic was low but i think you said you'd prefer betting the turn here with the A9o on T83K vs big37guy because he seemed to be on the passive side from your previous observations of him posting in the CO. IF you bet the turn i assume your checking back river UI with A9 here and hope to see something Ax beats. Just trying to clarify.

yes absolutely - just trying to get thin value here from a lot of his peels like j9, qj, random ax hands, etc. if he calls the turn i'm checking back riv ui

Time Link to 00:04:03

You mention your not sure whether you would Bet/3-bet the flop or Call and raise the turn vs a C/R from this opponent, but then go on to say his call down with QJ is reasonably played.

This is contradicting for me. If you expect him to only Ch/Call with a Q and only C/R Ks or better and semi-bluffs, why would we ever want to reraise him at any point?

As a default, do you expect this player type to C/R most Qs in this spot?

Time Link to 00:24:16

I was surprised you preferred to just call and see rather than raise right away. I think I instinctively always raise here. I ran the equity through stove and you have about 30-31% on the flop 4-ways, but playing around with stove just about ever turn card is not bad, but not good either w about 20-39% equity (A,K,Q,9,8,7,5,4) & clubs about 10% equity.

I probably still raise right away just because there aren't enough safe cards that your happy to raise on the turn, but I agree its an ugly spot where either way your not really happy.

Time Link to 00:39:25

I think this turn spot is an extremely common and frustrating spot I run into a lot at the tables, maybe not so much against a TAG, but more against a loosish, slightly more passive player type.

If we assume we're against a more passive, loosish player type that won't semi-bluff raise or value raise most Ax, but will value bet & occasionally bluff when checked to, how are you playing this turn and a blank river? I often find myself betting the flop & turn thinking its for value, but then end up hating life when I have to Ch/Call on the river in a biggish pot.

Time Link to 00:45:00

If your cosmo, are you betting again on a blank (non diamond,non facecard) turn with your air? Basically targeting a loosish, badish player that will peel with something like KQ 1 diamond then have to Ch/Fold on the turn.

You mention your not sure whether you would Bet/3-bet the flop or Call and raise the turn vs a C/R from this opponent, but then go on to say his call down with QJ is reasonably played.

This is contradicting for me. If you expect him to only Ch/Call with a Q and only C/R Ks or better and semi-bluffs, why would we ever want to reraise him at any point?

As a default, do you expect this player type to C/R most Qs in this spot?

i'd played with him some previously and also in this session before the video kicked in, and he'd been doing some very spazzy things, mostly on the flop though. in retrospect i'd probably b3b the flop and bet it down from there if he c/r the flop. if he c/r flop and i decided to just call i'm not sure i want to raise the turn and risk putting a bunch more bets in. i would probably do that with ak though.

his stats are deceiving in that he wasn't really an abc tight player - he did lots of donking and goofy things. i feel like this kind of player is more likely to call down a medium hand when i jam the flop and less so when i jack the turn. his cr range is not just qx+

I was surprised you preferred to just call and see rather than raise right away. I think I instinctively always raise here. I ran the equity through stove and you have about 30-31% on the flop 4-ways, but playing around with stove just about ever turn card is not bad, but not good either w about 20-39% equity (A,K,Q,9,8,7,5,4) & clubs about 10% equity.

I probably still raise right away just because there aren't enough safe cards that your happy to raise on the turn, but I agree its an ugly spot where either way your not really happy.

i can't figure out which hand this refers to. i'm assuming not the JJ hand? could you clarify please

I think this turn spot is an extremely common and frustrating spot I run into a lot at the tables, maybe not so much against a TAG, but more against a loosish, slightly more passive player type.

If we assume we're against a more passive, loosish player type that won't semi-bluff raise or value raise most Ax, but will value bet & occasionally bluff when checked to, how are you playing this turn and a blank river? I often find myself betting the flop & turn thinking its for value, but then end up hating life when I have to Ch/Call on the river in a biggish pot.

i tend to bet flop and turn vs most anybody - maybe defensively checkcalling turn vs psycholags or something. on river i can see a c/f vs a lot of straightforward players, and maybe sometimes a c/c vs someone with a bit of spaz or induceableness in them. i'd say against really good tags where we respect each other i'll crbluff some small amount of the time.

If your cosmo, are you betting again on a blank (non diamond,non facecard) turn with your air? Basically targeting a loosish, badish player that will peel with something like KQ 1 diamond then have to Ch/Fold on the turn.

yeah, especially depending on how poor my air is. there are some guys who will c/c a flop like that with say k hi to see if you shut down, and if you fire a lot of turns and they aren't very sd-bound in general you can take them off of it

i can't figure out which hand this refers to. i'm assuming not the JJ hand? could you clarify please

Yeah this is the JJ on the low mono flop multiway. I think in the actual video you did end up raising, but during the commentary mentioned you would probably prefer to just call the initial flop donk.

Yeah this is the JJ on the low mono flop multiway. I think in the actual video you did end up raising, but during the commentary mentioned you would probably prefer to just call the initial flop donk.

oh, okay. i think probably a raise is better since there are guys behind me who i don't mind folding or taking two with a draw. even though i'm not often crushing the donker i think i do better if i can get it heads up as opposed to keeping it multiway. if the pot were heads up on the flop i can see calling for sure.