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Another awesome awesome vid with some unusual spots. Great depth of discussion and hypothesis/conjecture.
Hi, mr. Seidman,
you are the sickest. The way you clarify things is like no other.
<3 from massive fanboy.
Time Link to 00:46:17
If ATo is the lowest we call, then surely A9o is 100% 3bet because it is the toppest hand in our 3bet-light range?
last hand blew my mind
Hi, mr. Seidman,
you are the sickest. The way you clarify things is like no other.
<3 from massive fanboy.
+1
insanely sick analysis on the last hand, was worth watching the video on its own...
Final hand.
If Vlad check/shoves the turn what is the bottom of the Kid pokers range that you expect him to call with?
and
What is the bottom of KP's range that you think he should call with?
one thing about the last hand.
insyderrr says he would consider folding the river in kidpoker's spot. but i would say that we should be pretty sure that with his bluffs, urnotindanger is only raising this turn with the intention of betting most rivers because kidpoker is calling the turn raise almost always once he bets the turn.
also, the first hand with 32hh it seemed apparent to me that c/f might be best on the flop. which really implies that it would be a fold preflop because this is one of the very best boards for our hand.
also, the first hand with 32hh it seemed apparent to me that c/f might be best on the flop. which really implies that it would be a fold preflop because this is one of the very best boards for our hand.
this actually may be true for the flop, but this isnt necessarily one of the very best boards for us. sort of what i meant to say when i was talking about how both depth and 5-way action are tough for a lower FD or something.
However, A4x boards are pretty amazing for us often, because while we have a gutter, we're deep and likely to get action. I think that we can def still play it we just have to change our idea of what is and isnt good.
Andrew
one thing about the last hand.
insyderrr says he would consider folding the river in kidpoker's spot. but i would say that we should be pretty sure that with his bluffs, urnotindanger is only raising this turn with the intention of betting most rivers because kidpoker is calling the turn raise almost always once he bets the turn.
i agree, however i would still plan on shoving the turn because id generally expect urnotindanger to have more equity for his turn c/r than a bare gutshot most times.
Andrew
Final hand.
If Vlad check/shoves the turn what is the bottom of the Kid pokers range that you expect him to call with?
and
What is the bottom of KP's range that you think he should call with?
A) i expect him to call with all top pairs and maybe make some bad calls with nutish draws. also sets and two pair obv.
B) what he *should* call with is really too dependent of a question. most thinks he *should* call with should either have raised the flop or checked back the turn, so theres not a whole lot of range for him there that he should be bet-calling, in my opinion.
Andrew
Time Link to 00:49:55
Is betting really small to induce or get a crying call from KQ or worse an option here? Or are you simply value towning yourself too often when you are "inducing" with the small bet?
Is betting really small to induce or get a crying call from KQ or worse an option here? Or are you simply value towning yourself too often when you are "inducing" with the small bet?
lowkey, this is exactly my point. a good high stakes player is pretty unlikely to make that call with KQ, and is much more likely to either c/f or c/r it. in that case, we either check back or b/c, and since i thought he would have us beat a little too often to b/c, we check back.
Andrew
lowkey, this is exactly my point. a good high stakes player is pretty unlikely to make that call with KQ, and is much more likely to either c/f or c/r it. in that case, we either check back or b/c, and since i thought he would have us beat a little too often to b/c, we check back.
Andrew
Great video again, I've really enjoyed this series. Does changing the bet size to a really small bet of around $150 or $200 change the frequency our opponent will take an action we like or is this just a waste of time against a very good player?
Great video again, I've really enjoyed this series. Does changing the bet size to a really small bet of around $150 or $200 change the frequency our opponent will take an action we like or is this just a waste of time against a very good player?
our range looks the same. in fact, betting smaller might even force a good really good player even MORE into a raise/fold point of view than a larger bet that might be more polarized.
i agree, however i would still plan on shoving the turn because id generally expect urnotindanger to have more equity for his turn c/r than a bare gutshot most times.
Andrew
Yeah but the suit is pretty irrelevant here because w/ deep stacks there are lots of reverse implied odds w/ a 3 high flush, so we are basically playing our hand as an offsuit connector (obviously the s00t adds equity esp in HU pots but in 5 way pots ?).
sick vid. the analysis on the last hand was gem mint, pure water to wine type stuff, or buttons to gold in this case.
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How much does this thought process change, re: 4betting hands like AQs/JJ 200bbs deep OOP vs good players, if our opponent is capable of 5bet jamming as a bluff? If we're only 4betting and calling it off with say QQ+ and AK, but our 4bet range is considerably wider than that, doesn't that provide a good player with profitable 5betting opportunities?
A) i expect him to call with all top pairs and maybe make some bad calls with nutish draws. also sets and two pair obv.
B) what he *should* call with is really too dependent of a question. most thinks he *should* call with should either have raised the flop or checked back the turn, so theres not a whole lot of range for him there that he should be bet-calling, in my opinion.
Andrew
Wait, so KidPoker should be checking back the turn with QJ?
Thnx Andrew, the whole series has been ridiculous
Wait, so KidPoker should be checking back the turn with QJ?
Thnx Andrew, the whole series has been ridiculous
yeah, probably.
youre welcome.
merry xmas everybody.
Awesome vid.
The last HH review is really interesting. The thought process decrypted by Baluga is outstanding.
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