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Never Tell Me the Odds: Episode Four

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Never Tell Me the Odds: Episode Four by KRANTZ

FenderJaguar gets the tables running at $2/4 as KRANTZ looks over his shoulder.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Mid Stakes
  • 59 minutes long
  • Posted about 2 years ago

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Comments for Never Tell Me the Odds: Episode Four

mocky

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hkx

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A video about playing Magic video seems unavoidable now

Posted over 2 years ago

gring000h

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TheGeek

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Hey Jay,

the point you make about good players being tilted by making mistakes and bad players being tilted by losing pots/stacks is a very good one I think. I'd just like to ask as a micro donk if you have any advice on evaluating your specific plays better in order to find out if you did make a mistake or not? Sometimes its hard for me as a poor player to not be results oriented and if I make a play for a certain reason and it doesn't work, I sometimes don't know if my reasoning was correct or not. Is it just a matter of making certain assumptions about our opponents and working through the math based on those assumptions?

Sorry for clogging up the thread with noobish questions, nice vid!

Posted over 2 years ago

richbrown

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so awesome. "we've got 7 seconds... JAM!? YEAH!"

Posted over 2 years ago

FenderJaguar

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A video about playing Magic video seems unavoidable now



If there's enough interest I can probably do something like that Smile post it in the member contributions etc. I'm a bit rusty but I think I still got a bit o' skill Smile

Posted over 2 years ago

besthand17

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"bigger budget next season" does that mean there is a next season?

Posted over 2 years ago

besthand17

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Time Link to 00:41:25

The lockdown ep is so awesome. Every time I watch it I wanna grind all day and all night. Anytime I am feeling down about poker, it makes me remember why its so awesome.

Posted over 2 years ago

Curtlow

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Time Link to 00:26:28

Table 1 KJ: You raise UTG with a poster in UTG+1 who 3 bets small and you fold. Do you really think he is that strong? I would never fold since he could easily be trying to protect his post or is this a mistake?

Posted over 2 years ago

Skleice

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Haha. I almost 5 bet jammed vs ur Aces. I was like "i bet Krantz just told him to 4bet me". Glad I did not do so.

Posted over 2 years ago

Mirthall

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Time Link to 00:42:34

Left table, 87s hand. What are the main reasons that you prefer c/c'ing this flop against utg? Why not to lead out or c/r?

Posted over 2 years ago

AnJo280

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Left table, 87s hand. What are the main reasons that you prefer c/c'ing this flop against utg? Why not to lead out or c/r?


i personally think our equity in that spot is so big that it´d be a waste to play it too aggressive on the flop. Any Hand which gets it in on our check/raise would pay us off when we hit our draws anyway.(basicly overpairs and better) And by check/calling we get his bluffrange to pay some, too.


Oh and i really like this series.
Its a "little" to advanced for me to apply it at nl50, but its very entertaining and improves the way i think about poker.

Posted over 2 years ago

FenderJaguar

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Table 1 KJ: You raise UTG with a poster in UTG+1 who 3 bets small and you fold. Do you really think he is that strong? I would never fold since he could easily be trying to protect his post or is this a mistake?



He posted b/c he sat out for a bit but he's been at the table for a while, he may have a wide range but we're OOP, he hasn't been 3b'ing like a monkey and he's pretty aggro postflop. It's going to be hard to want to put a pile of money in w/top pair or high variance at the least. I don't hate a call but it's closer to a fold. Especially since he has one of his hands in a tub of buttered popcorn Grin

Posted over 2 years ago

FenderJaguar

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Haha. I almost 5 bet jammed vs ur Aces. I was like "i bet Krantz just told him to 4bet me". Glad I did not do so.



Smile You wouldn't be the first haha. It was definitely a great time to pick up AA there.

Posted over 2 years ago

raziel2689

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Any information on where I can get that table theme + cards please?
Looks great.

Also great vid!

Posted over 2 years ago

FenderJaguar

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Any information on where I can get that table theme + cards please?
Looks great.

Also great vid!



Tiltbuster.com has tons of stuff.

Posted over 2 years ago

vandelay

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If there's enough interest I can probably do something like that Smile post it in the member contributions etc. I'm a bit rusty but I think I still got a bit o' skill Smile



I would watch that vid

Posted over 2 years ago

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peten2toms

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Time Link to 00:07:21

I feel like this Cbet is -EV given what we have seen from villain thus far even though this is the nut board to cbet.

Posted over 2 years ago

MPHansen

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Great video. As someone who used to play a ton of magic I definitely think poker is tougher, on the surface poker is more simple but once you start learning more that's not the case imo.

Posted over 2 years ago

peten2toms

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Time Link to 00:20:06

This seems like an easy value shove. What range are we assigning this guy that gets to the river and is now going to bluff when checked to? It seems like he has more bluff catchers and weak made hands than bluffs. Also if we ever three barrel bluff here when we dont jam TP2ndK how are we balancing our range? As of late I feel like people love to be heroic in 3bet pots therefore we should be jamming and given him that opportunity.

Posted over 2 years ago

FenderJaguar

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what font u use on ur HUD Grin



it's called Century Gothic. it's from the movie A Clockwork Orange. Grin

Posted over 2 years ago

FenderJaguar

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I feel like this Cbet is -EV given what we have seen from villain thus far even though this is the nut board to cbet.



you may be right, this was kinda auto-pilot.

Posted over 2 years ago

FenderJaguar

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Great video. As someone who used to play a ton of magic I definitely think poker is tougher, on the surface poker is more simple but once you start learning more that's not the case imo.



poker and magic are similar for tons and tons of reasons, but ultimately magic has more variables that you have to pay more attention to more of the time, which gives you more chances to make more mistakes, which gives the better and best players more chances to realize their edge. don't get me wrong I'm not trying to discredit the depth of poker in any way at all. just saying that on average, average players are going to do far worse in magic than they are in poker.

Posted over 2 years ago

themightyjim2k

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I really don't like the check back on the turn when we turn the flush. I think a small bet (like $80 or so) is perfect because it gets value from all of his pair+FD hands that just aren't going to fold for that price considering you can be bluffing and they don't want you to be bluffing for that cheap. And if he has TP or better he might just spaz c/ship, and we may get a c/ship out of AQ or AK with the Ac. plus we're always getting value from his overpairs and I don't think we can assume that 2/4 regs will always double barrel overpairs on that board since I've seen regs take all kinds of lines that don't always make sense.

I think checking back just costs us too much $$ against a lot of the weaker part of his range that we aren't going to get huge value from on the river when a lot of cards might kill our action. and when we check back and allow the river to come we never give villain a chance to jam worse hands which he's often going to do when he has the Ac or an overpair. By checking back we give villain a free shot to realize his equity when he has the Ac, and we are going to have a tough time getting stacks in against an overpair if a card come that completes some draws.

also by betting small like this on the turn with the nuts we can also balance when we've floated against a villain in a 3bet pot and want to be able to bluff cheaply.

Posted over 2 years ago

pr0wler

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Time Link to 00:36:27

I think he would bet a jack there very often. It's the Phil Hellmuth blocker bet, Ace is a scare card so he wants to bet to get thin value and also prevent us from betting large on the river/control the pot. I like an overbet to like $160 to get him off any jack, only has to work like 1/2 times. He doesn't have AJ ever because he'd bet more on the river with that hand, his small bet sizing seems very weak.

Posted over 2 years ago

chomp

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Fender - very good play and very coherent and sharp analysis in this video. I think you trumped the teacher in this one.

Posted over 2 years ago

Lowkey

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Time Link to 00:56:47

This show would definitely need live play by play from the multi tabling stunt man.

Posted over 2 years ago

Choparno

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Time Link to 00:52:56

I notice we insta-mucked 22 from the SB to cheet's BTN open. Given the BB is a fish I thought this would be a call, even if he is 3betting a decent amount. Does this become a call the fishier the BB is and the less he squeezes?

Posted over 2 years ago

FenderJaguar

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I notice we insta-mucked 22 from the SB to cheet's BTN open. Given the BB is a fish I thought this would be a call, even if he is 3betting a decent amount. Does this become a call the fishier the BB is and the less he squeezes?



Yeah he's a fish but there's no guarantee he calls and I think it's still going to be pretty hard to get paid off there, deuces are rarely going to be showing down successfully and have zero barreling equity. If he was squeezing less and calling every hand in the world I may be more inclined to call but deuces still suck Smile I'd be happier with like, 67s, and I don't even like that.

Posted over 2 years ago

DiggerTheDog

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Do I have to give up buttered popcorn whilst playing now?

Posted over 2 years ago

KRANTZ

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Do I have to give up buttered popcorn whilst playing now?



For the sake of your keyboard, please!

Posted over 2 years ago

KRANTZ

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This seems like an easy value shove. What range are we assigning this guy that gets to the river and is now going to bluff when checked to? It seems like he has more bluff catchers and weak made hands than bluffs. Also if we ever three barrel bluff here when we dont jam TP2ndK how are we balancing our range? As of late I feel like people love to be heroic in 3bet pots therefore we should be jamming and given him that opportunity.



Why do you think he has more bluff catchers and weak made hands?

Posted over 2 years ago

KRANTZ

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I really don't like the check back on the turn when we turn the flush. I think a small bet (like $80 or so) is perfect because it gets value from all of his pair+FD hands that just aren't going to fold for that price considering you can be bluffing and they don't want you to be bluffing for that cheap. And if he has TP or better he might just spaz c/ship, and we may get a c/ship out of AQ or AK with the Ac. plus we're always getting value from his overpairs and I don't think we can assume that 2/4 regs will always double barrel overpairs on that board since I've seen regs take all kinds of lines that don't always make sense.

I think checking back just costs us too much $$ against a lot of the weaker part of his range that we aren't going to get huge value from on the river when a lot of cards might kill our action. and when we check back and allow the river to come we never give villain a chance to jam worse hands which he's often going to do when he has the Ac or an overpair. By checking back we give villain a free shot to realize his equity when he has the Ac, and we are going to have a tough time getting stacks in against an overpair if a card come that completes some draws.

also by betting small like this on the turn with the nuts we can also balance when we've floated against a villain in a 3bet pot and want to be able to bluff cheaply.



I think you're too rigid in your thinking here

Posted over 2 years ago

Just a guy

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is there an ipod download version for this video ??

Posted over 2 years ago

donkrx

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I like how FenderJaguar says that Campanga08 is a bad player when Campagna08's PTR shows him as a solid winning player at $2/4 (3 ptBB/100 from 53,000 hands). People just always say that tight players are bad because its not complicated and flashy, but tight players still are almost always winners..

Posted 3 months ago



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