Heilko, are you from Holland? Love the accent ![]()
TheLoon gives his new series a shot with Hielko as he plays 4 tables at the Everest Poker Network at 25NL and they review the action after the fact.
TheLoon and company take a tour of the European sites and talk of differences from the players to the software itself.
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Heilko, are you from Holland? Love the accent ![]()
+1 on the accent.
I like Hielkos videos. And nice to see Everest again, I didnt play there for a long time but Everest has the worst software of all pokersites. There are way to few tables there, the rake is high and the their VIPsystem sucks a lot.
Are you sure about the rake being high? An online review from a reliable source that now I can't find ranked them among the most competitive rooms concerning rake. Agree about the VIP system. Got used to the software, so no problem for me in that sense.
I like Hielkos videos. And nice to see Everest again, I didnt play there for a long time but Everest has the worst software of all pokersites. There are way to few tables there, the rake is high and the their VIPsystem sucks a lot.
I've played on Everest alot, even quite a few hands vs TheLoon when he did his challenge and the software is not all that bad. For really bad software, check out Betfair or even worse Carbon Poker =p
I've played on Everest alot, even quite a few hands vs TheLoon when he did his challenge and the software is not all that bad. For really bad software, check out Betfair or even worse Carbon Poker =p
Betfair software sucks. Carbon poker looks nice - I thought it was supposed to be ok??
Anyway - I think the video was good guys. You will get US hate ratings here though for how soft those tables were!! Lots of min raising flops but were you the only guy to 3bet PF??!!?? If someone else did I didn't notice. Not unusual to have a table of 6-8% 3bettors at 25nl on FTP.
I think as there will be 2 of you doing the videos that live video would work well - or maybe live video and a review of a couple of hands that you didn't have time to cover properly at the end maybe?
nice vid. liked it
NL ftw!
Betfair software sucks. Carbon poker looks nice - I thought it was supposed to be ok??
Carbon is totally unplayable if you play more then 4 tables. I couldn't read the numbers anymore and the buttons got really weird and stuff. They do have very cool smileys though =p
Carbon is totally unplayable if you play more then 4 tables. I couldn't read the numbers anymore and the buttons got really weird and stuff. They do have very cool smileys though =p
Without derailing this thread too much, the Cake poker software is the anti-nuts. The table layout for 6 max is the same as full ring, you just can't sit down if there's 6 people (ldo) so you get completely different seating arrangements for each table. It's horrible.
Dutchies! Nice vid!
Heilko, are you from Holland? Love the accent
We are both from Holland.
I like Hielkos videos. And nice to see Everest again, I didnt play there for a long time but Everest has the worst software of all pokersites. There are way to few tables there, the rake is high and the their VIPsystem sucks a lot.
I think there are worst softwares out there, like pacific poker. But it is not great indeed. On lower stakes there are enough tables but from 1/2 upwards the traffic gets low, also at night hours lower stakes don't have many tables.
nice vid. liked it
NL ftw!
Thanks you sir.
can somebody change the title to <series> + pilot episode. Just pilot blah blah is tilting and uninformative
Looking forward Ipoker- vid...
can somebody change the title to <series> + pilot episode. Just pilot blah blah is tilting and uninformative
Done.
-Rusty
Time Link to 00:34:59
TheLoon, in the K7s hand you mention that you will bet almost any river except for a 4 and a 9. Why would you check when you hit your straight? Villain has showdown value very often when he calls flop and turn on this board so I expect him to check behind very often when you check the river.
TheLoon, in the K7s hand you mention that you will bet almost any river except for a 4 and a 9. Why would you check when you hit your straight? Villain has showdown value very often when he calls flop and turn on this board so I expect him to check behind very often when you check the river.
Verbal misclick I think.
Yeah, didn't catch this during the vid but obviously should be the 6 or 8 since 6x and 8x hands are the biggest part of the range we target with of our third barrel.
Time Link to 00:58:33
In the KQ hand on the bottom left table TheLoon squeezes pf and cbets on a 984 board against two players. Is this standard? This board doesn't hit our range at all so we are pretty much repping overpairs only. Also, the original raiser pf is playing 53/5 so is probably not folding to a ton of cbets either and the coldcaller is a nit so his range can be fairly strong.
Time Link to 00:52:25
Another hand I would like to hear your thoughts on is the 94s hand on the top right table. TheLoon checks in the bb and calls a flop and a turn bet with a flush draw. Villain checks the river and theloon bets. I think this is an interesting spot.
Villain is playing 18/3(if I am looking at the right stats) so he could have a decent amount of good Kx hands in his range because he probably has a very tight raising range from the sb. He leads out on the flop, which he can do with a fairly wide range. A flush draw, straight draws and maybe some Tx hands. He gets called in two spots so when he bets the turn again his range should be pretty strong. Even more so because the other player in the hand is short and villain puts in half his stack so he is committed to call a shove from the shortstack.
I don't think the jack is a very good card to bluff on either because it improves some of the draws villain could have bet on the flop and turn like QJ, J9 and AJ (it's probably unlikely that he bets a gutshot on the turn, though). Villain seems pretty passive so he probably doesn't valuebet very thin on the river so he could have a fairly strong check/calling range.
I think there are not that many hands we can get villain off on the river besides a flush draw, which is somewhat unlikely because we have one.
I liked the video btw. I used to play on everest too so it brought back some fun memories.![]()
Gert_en_Piet; Think you are right about both hands.
The squeeze preflop with KQo is good, but think the board is a little bit too connected to cbet here multiway. But don't agree that the coldcallers range could be strong here (well, it could be, but wouldn't assume it). Think the range of the nit is very heavy on 22-JJ (QQ+ would almost always get it in pre after you squeezed) and strong broadway hands that do not connect to this board. And since he's a nit he does not have many small/medium suited connectors in his range that would connect with this board. So he can have sets and some overpairs, but thats 21 combo's and 22/33-77 = 30 combo's and if you add AQo/AQs/AJs/KQs you have another 24 combo's. But since you also need the fish to fold I'd just give up.
The 94s hands should be a fold on the turn. Our draw could easily be dominated and at the same time we run a big risk of the short stack shoving on the turn, forcing us to put even more money in the pot with poor equity, poor implied odds and potentially bad reverse implied odds.
i hope you guys pay me a visit at the ongame tables. the tables are 5max there and action is everywhere.
looking forward to see more vids like this.
gj.
Got to love the dutch... they founded New York! hahahaha. It makes me proud to see you guys in the vids. The vid sucks but thats ok! Just kidding
NIce vid fishes.
Time Link to 00:09:58
I was wondering what the differnece between aggression frequency and aggresion factor is? I use Holdem Manager and have aggression factor on my HUD but not Agression Frequency.
Great video. I play at Carbon poker mostly and this is usually how the action is over there at the micros. Very soft with few thinking players. I really like Hielkos analysis and insights to hands in this video and his other videos ive watched. Hope to see alot more from him!
I was wondering what the differnece between aggression frequency and aggresion factor is? I use Holdem Manager and have aggression factor on my HUD but not Agression Frequency.
Agression Frequency tells you how often someone is betting or raising, while agression factor tells you how often someone is betting or raising compared to calling. So aggresion frequency is a more 'pure' statistic of aggression.
Great video. I play at Carbon poker mostly and this is usually how the action is over there at the micros. Very soft with few thinking players. I really like Hielkos analysis and insights to hands in this video and his other videos ive watched. Hope to see alot more from him!
Good to hear! ![]()
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