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FoxwoodsFiend 2 tables some 10/20 NL Hold'em in his debut episode of Ghost.

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Entity
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Hey guys, welcome to a mid-series pilot of our new series concept, Ghost. We're going to be releasing these on a weekly basis with a lot of our current EPs as well as some new faces, letting you ghost our instructors in the games that they play most frequently. This is the first of many of these, so let us know what you think and if there's any ways we can improve on it. We haven't settled on when we'll be adding these to the schedule or when we will be officially *starting* the series, but it's gonna be soon, and here's the first taste. Hope you guys like it. :)

Rob

Posted Mar 20, 2008 5:34pm

bottomset
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big fan of the idea, and this video is good

Posted Mar 20, 2008 6:48pm

Ulkis
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Don't know when the video was recorded but FTP now has auto-top-up functionality so no need to manually add chips anymore.

Good video.

Posted Mar 20, 2008 7:40pm

gpfs7
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im at work so i can not press the play button, i was wondering is the video as it sounds just like them playing or do they do commentary while playing?

Posted Mar 20, 2008 7:56pm

Ulkis
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im at work so i can not press the play button, i was wondering is the video as it sounds just like them playing or do they do commentary while playing?



2-tabling with commentary

Posted Mar 20, 2008 8:15pm

DJ Sensei
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oh snap so it begins

Posted Mar 20, 2008 8:27pm

Lewto
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what up prah?

Posted Mar 20, 2008 8:41pm

LouPinella
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I like the way you talk, it's sexy in a weird kinda way. I would really like you to say the word "tournament" in one of your vids.

You talk a lot about this min raising and 2.5x raising in position. Makes sense and am going to try doing this some instead of just having my orgasmic pot button sensations. I see in your vid sometimes you min, sometimes 2.5x, and sometimes you still do pot. Is this just complete random?

I didn't notice any change due to stack size of blinds.

Posted Mar 20, 2008 9:58pm

FoxwoodsFiend
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I like the way you talk, it's sexy in a weird kinda way. I would really like you to say the word "tournament" in one of your vids.



well this is definitely one of the creepier things i've read about myself in a while. thanks, i guess.


You talk a lot about this min raising and 2.5x raising in position. Makes sense and am going to try doing this some instead of just having my orgasmic pot button sensations. I see in your vid sometimes you min, sometimes 2.5x, and sometimes you still do pot. Is this just complete random?

I didn't notice any change due to stack size of blinds.



yeah, it's basically random. i think the 2.5x was only on the CO and never on the button, but I could be wrong. i'm still experimenting with different open sizes and how people react so sometimes i just forget or get distracted an default 3.5x it.

Posted Mar 20, 2008 10:56pm

rips
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Nice video.

You should give allSnap a try tough :)

Posted Mar 21, 2008 12:08am

snider
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i love this series, good idea.

Posted Mar 21, 2008 12:56am

shawn
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Nice video. You really explain your thinking well. And listening to you play 10/20 after your movin' on up series really draws the contrast nicely between donkstakes and middle-upper stakes.

Posted Mar 21, 2008 1:10am

Borsig
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You really sound like Owen Wilson.

Oh and the video is good too.

Posted Mar 21, 2008 2:28am

tapped_out
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He does sound like Owen.

Anyway, I love this site. You guys keep coming up with great ideas for videos. Easily the most innovative on the net.

Posted Mar 21, 2008 10:55am

applause
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U r sooooooo good! Thanks and plz more high stackes and more FoxwoodsFiend.

Posted Mar 21, 2008 11:55am

Sugar Nut
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Great video,

thx FWF for this one!

I really like videos with live commentary (which doesn't mean I don't like conceptual videos like the unconventional wisdom series) as they give an "on the spot" thought proccess insight into the coaches mind. However with the action flowing quite fast sometimes and some technical issues (which are completely excusable) sometimes the coach elaborates on a thought, but then something at the table happens which he has to comment on NOW and after that forgets to go back to the topic he was talking about. This sometimes is a bit unfortunate as I love listening to general concepts as much as to live hand commentary.

To counter this problem my suggestion would be to watch the video after recording it and in the above mentioned spots freeze the frame in camtasia and do a voice narration over it to finish the detailed explanation of the thought proccess.

As I'm not a native speaker it's sometimes hard for me to explain somewhat complex issues like this one, but I hope you guys get my point.

Thx for this great site,

Sugar Nut

Posted Mar 21, 2008 12:33pm

Nute
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I thought this was a very good video. More 6m high stakes plzkthx

Posted Mar 21, 2008 4:34pm

Canis Eruptus
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Great vid as has become the norm for this site . . . Thank you!

There was one hand around the 46 min mark where atomic chips check bluff jams the river (couldn't see his cards b/c PT stats were in the way) and right around this time you started commenting on how the table was playing str8 forward and no one getting out of line (I guess you missed it). I was wondering if you wouldn't mind commenting on the hand/dynamics and fenwicks snap call with like top and bottom pair. Seems like he is often beat there and if you were fenwick do you play it the same way?

Thanks . . .

CE

Posted Mar 22, 2008 4:56am

FoxwoodsFiend
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Great vid as has become the norm for this site . . . Thank you!

There was one hand around the 46 min mark where atomic chips check bluff jams the river (couldn't see his cards b/c PT stats were in the way) and right around this time you started commenting on how the table was playing str8 forward and no one getting out of line (I guess you missed it). I was wondering if you wouldn't mind commenting on the hand/dynamics and fenwicks snap call with like top and bottom pair. Seems like he is often beat there and if you were fenwick do you play it the same way?

Thanks . . .

CE



Hey Canis,

I completely missed the hand. If you can point me to the timestamp of the hand I'll gladly talk about it.

Posted Mar 22, 2008 6:06pm

FoxwoodsFiend
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Great video,

thx FWF for this one!

I really like videos with live commentary (which doesn't mean I don't like conceptual videos like the unconventional wisdom series) as they give an "on the spot" thought proccess insight into the coaches mind. However with the action flowing quite fast sometimes and some technical issues (which are completely excusable) sometimes the coach elaborates on a thought, but then something at the table happens which he has to comment on NOW and after that forgets to go back to the topic he was talking about. This sometimes is a bit unfortunate as I love listening to general concepts as much as to live hand commentary.

To counter this problem my suggestion would be to watch the video after recording it and in the above mentioned spots freeze the frame in camtasia and do a voice narration over it to finish the detailed explanation of the thought proccess.

As I'm not a native speaker it's sometimes hard for me to explain somewhat complex issues like this one, but I hope you guys get my point.

Thx for this great site,

Sugar Nut



Hey Sugar,

I think it's a mixed bag. The more removed I am from the action, the harder it is for me to say exactly what was on my mind. Obviously I can still analyze hands, but I think that I lose something in translation. I don't know why exactly, but I just have a hard time getting into the video and paying attention when I look back at it (this is something I've tried before) and I think my focus slips. I appreciate the suggestion, but I don't think it's something I can make work.

Posted Mar 22, 2008 6:09pm

Sugar Nut
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Thx for the reply,

I do fully understand that it is hard to go back and get into the flow of what you were talking about, but if you could try real hard and recall what you were talking about at time index 13:10 about being on the left of regs like OneUponAStar as this is what got my ears go like: "YEAH???" ..... and then there were the technical issues and you never really went back on this particular topic.

Again: thx for this site and vid

SugarNut

Posted Mar 23, 2008 5:18am

Canis Eruptus
Pair of Deuces
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Great vid as has become the norm for this site . . . Thank you!

There was one hand around the 46 min mark where atomic chips check bluff jams the river (couldn't see his cards b/c PT stats were in the way) and right around this time you started commenting on how the table was playing str8 forward and no one getting out of line (I guess you missed it). I was wondering if you wouldn't mind commenting on the hand/dynamics and fenwicks snap call with like top and bottom pair. Seems like he is often beat there and if you were fenwick do you play it the same way?

Thanks . . .

CE

Hey Canis,

I completely missed the hand. If you can point me to the timestamp of the hand I'll gladly talk about it.



46 minute mark . . .

Thanks . . .

Posted Mar 23, 2008 7:48pm

WiltOnTilt
Exec Producer
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Very nice vid Ariel, enjoyed it a lot.

WoT

Posted Mar 23, 2008 8:19pm

grunch
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Ha, I always thought your handle was Foxwoods FRIEND, which seemed a little too... I dunno... Dr. Phil?

Posted Mar 25, 2008 11:49pm

FoxwoodsFiend
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Ha, I always thought your handle was Foxwoods FRIEND, which seemed a little too... I dunno... Dr. Phil?



i laughed pretty hard

Posted Mar 26, 2008 3:12pm

Canis Eruptus
Pair of Deuces
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Hey, FWF

Still interested in your thoughts on that hand at the 46 minute mark if you have the time.

Thanks

Posted Mar 26, 2008 3:58pm

FoxwoodsFiend
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Hey, FWF

Still interested in your thoughts on that hand at the 46 minute mark if you have the time.

Thanks



finally got around to this. i think that atomicchips' line screams bluff because most people who bet and bet just bet again with anything as good as what he's representing with the check/raise (especially considering that fenwick's passive enough that you shouldn't expect him to be valuebetting Ax and if you have a monster your best chance of making money is just to bet again). however, i think fenwick's call is probably pretty bad because fenwick's probably just thinking "i have two pair" and not realizing that he has a complete bluff catcher and should probably call with QJ if he's calling A4 there. i think the great price that fenwick's getting plus the fact that fenwick's river bet looks way stronger than a bet from m or some aggro opponent would be means this should never be a bluff. i don't know if atomicchips was giving fenwick too much credit or just desperation bluffing but it's one of those spots where the bluff and call are both bad (bluff bad because of the opponent, call bad because if the caller was thinking at all about his image it would be a fold)

Posted Mar 27, 2008 8:37pm

deadersz
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When you called the small 3bet oop with 76s, you flopped a gutter and bdfd, is that not enough to make a move at it?

Posted Mar 28, 2008 1:29am

FoxwoodsFiend
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When you called the small 3bet oop with 76s, you flopped a gutter and bdfd, is that not enough to make a move at it?



nope

Posted Mar 28, 2008 2:30pm

Canis Eruptus
Pair of Deuces
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Hey, FWF

Still interested in your thoughts on that hand at the 46 minute mark if you have the time.

Thanks

finally got around to this. i think that atomicchips' line screams bluff because most people who bet and bet just bet again with anything as good as what he's representing with the check/raise (especially considering that fenwick's passive enough that you shouldn't expect him to be valuebetting Ax and if you have a monster your best chance of making money is just to bet again). however, i think fenwick's call is probably pretty bad because fenwick's probably just thinking "i have two pair" and not realizing that he has a complete bluff catcher and should probably call with QJ if he's calling A4 there. i think the great price that fenwick's getting plus the fact that fenwick's river bet looks way stronger than a bet from m or some aggro opponent would be means this should never be a bluff. i don't know if atomicchips was giving fenwick too much credit or just desperation bluffing but it's one of those spots where the bluff and call are both bad (bluff bad because of the opponent, call bad because if the caller was thinking at all about his image it would be a fold)



ok, cool. Yeah, I couldn't really put together their line of thinking and the whole hand just seemed botched from both ends so I'm glad I'm not missing something trivially easy as to why 1 or the other made a superior play . . .

thanks

Posted Mar 28, 2008 3:42pm

Moshmopok
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Hey FWF,

very interesting video, I have been thinking about two comments you made.

1. raise sizing in lp vs. ep - I've watched a stoxpoker video some time ago, where the instructor (forgot who it was, leatherass maybe) opened smaller UTG than in EP, iirc because his hand range was stronger so that he would like to get called and because he liked to play smaller pots in position. That made sense to me. Now you argue that you'd like to have deeper stacks when you're ip, which makes sense to me, too. On the other hand I've read so often that it is better to play bigger pots ip, because your opponents will be able to make more expensive mistakes oop then. As you have probably guessed by now I'm an utterly confused low limit donk. ;)

2. (not) c-betting aces - I've tried to c-bet aces less frequently in one session, I got bet out of so many pots, I have reverted back to c-betting more often. I have been struggling with this concept for a while. On the one hand it is unlikely you will get a better hand to fold or a worse hand to call. And even if a worse hand calls you might be in trouble on the next street. But isn't it sometimes important to protect your equity in the pot by betting out, even if you don't expect to get called by a worse hand? Just because it is so unlikely that you'll be able to check your a-high down even if you have the best hand on the flop? You can also often see two cards for this one bet if your ip.

Posted Apr 2, 2008 10:30am

FoxwoodsFiend
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Hey FWF,

very interesting video, I have been thinking about two comments you made.

1. raise sizing in lp vs. ep - I've watched a stoxpoker video some time ago, where the instructor (forgot who it was, leatherass maybe) opened smaller UTG than in EP, iirc because his hand range was stronger so that he would like to get called and because he liked to play smaller pots in position. That made sense to me. Now you argue that you'd like to have deeper stacks when you're ip, which makes sense to me, too. On the other hand I've read so often that it is better to play bigger pots ip, because your opponents will be able to make more expensive mistakes oop then. As you have probably guessed by now I'm an utterly confused low limit donk. ;)

2. (not) c-betting aces - I've tried to c-bet aces less frequently in one session, I got bet out of so many pots, I have reverted back to c-betting more often. I have been struggling with this concept for a while. On the one hand it is unlikely you will get a better hand to fold or a worse hand to call. And even if a worse hand calls you might be in trouble on the next street. But isn't it sometimes important to protect your equity in the pot by betting out, even if you don't expect to get called by a worse hand? Just because it is so unlikely that you'll be able to check your a-high down even if you have the best hand on the flop? You can also often see two cards for this one bet if your ip.



With regards to 1, I don't have a super strong range UTG. It's still stronger than my CO range but it's not so tight that I want to do my best to encourage action. And I don't mind playing smaller pots in position because it gives me more room for play with deeper stacks relative to the pot and it's not like the average hand is one in which I'm trying to play for stacks: it's normally one in which I don't have much and am trying to steal as cheap as possible


With regards to 2, I think you just have to find a happy balance. I think that many players c-bet ace high too often, but if you know not doing so exposes you to getting played back against that villain, bet more. If you're getting check/raised a lot or not folding out bottom pair ever, bet less. There's no right answer and there are good arguments on both sides definitely

Posted Apr 2, 2008 8:59pm

Moshmopok
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Thank you for taking the time to answer.

Yes, a good balance sounds like a good idea. I'll keep trying (and in the meantime am glad that you got me thinking about it).

Posted Apr 3, 2008 2:13pm