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Down on the Farm: Episode Three

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Down on the Farm: Episode Three by bosoxx34

Bosoxx34 does some live play this week, playing a single table of 100NL Heads Up.

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Bosoxx34 takes a voyage through the farm system of HUNLHE from 50NL all the way to 1000NL.

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  • Posted almost 2 years ago

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poolsweeper

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Time Link to 00:37:31

Don't you rep a 6 much better by calling turn raising river? And so wouldn't floating here be better than raising?

Posted about 2 years ago

Bonito

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Time Link to 00:36:38

Around 36:30 for some reason the time link didnt work.

Here you talk about having a reason for 3b-ing.

He is folding to 70%+ of 3bs so far. To me this seems like something we can take advantage of and I'd be looking to up my 3b range to something like 20-25% (and polarized). Until he adjusts.

Was this something you were thinking about?

About 5 min later he calls a 3b w/ 87o so basically this question is pointless once we know that. But it still is relevent until then.

Posted about 2 years ago

Bonito

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Time Link to 00:41:57

you say (as a joke I think) "over bet ship and rep the king"

I think you were joking. But wouldnt you normally be firing a 2nd barrel on this turn card if you had the Kh?

Posted about 2 years ago

ship_it_holla_balla

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I haven't watched this yet, but do you have any tips on how to stay mindful while playing?
You've gone over tilt quite a bit in your videos and I find it very hard when playing HU to stay mindful (or maybe it's just that I notice it best and it matters most when playing HU).

Posted about 2 years ago

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Don't you rep a 6 much better by calling turn raising river? And so wouldn't floating here be better than raising?



Not necessarily, for me anyways. While I'll play a 6 like that sometimes, the majority of the time I'm raising the turn with a 6 here. Floating can definitely work too. Last time he bet 5 on the turn I believe he shut down on the river and he may have done so again. However, with my personal style of play raising the turn best reps the 6 for me even though we haven't been in this spot yet.

Posted about 2 years ago

bosoxx34

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Around 36:30 for some reason the time link didnt work.

Here you talk about having a reason for 3b-ing.

He is folding to 70%+ of 3bs so far. To me this seems like something we can take advantage of and I'd be looking to up my 3b range to something like 20-25% (and polarized). Until he adjusts.

Was this something you were thinking about?

About 5 min later he calls a 3b w/ 87o so basically this question is pointless once we know that. But it still is relevent until then.



It was something I was thinking about and that's definitely a good reason to up the 3betting range, to be honest it just slipped my mind. One thing I do want to mention though is be careful about 3betting these guys ~25% of the time, most will adjust and then it won't become as profitable. You can get away with doing it more often, but just don't overdo it. Good question.

Posted about 2 years ago

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you say (as a joke I think) "over bet ship and rep the king"

I think you were joking. But wouldnt you normally be firing a 2nd barrel on this turn card if you had the Kh?



Yeah I was joking and most likely I am firing here. He had been calling a decent amount and folding to turn bets and this would've been a good spot to barrel with the K of hearts as we have outs on the river and fold equity when betting the turn.

Posted about 2 years ago

bosoxx34

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I haven't watched this yet, but do you have any tips on how to stay mindful while playing?
You've gone over tilt quite a bit in your videos and I find it very hard when playing HU to stay mindful (or maybe it's just that I notice it best and it matters most when playing HU).



I talk about this a little in the video but not sure exactly when. Basically something I've had success with lately is not listening to music as my mind tends to drift. One of my buddies does the same but still puts headphones on to eliminate all distractions.

Also, lowering your amount of tables and/or snap quitting once you find yourself drifting can also work.

Posted about 2 years ago

Bonito

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It was something I was thinking about and that's definitely a good reason to up the 3betting range, to be honest it just slipped my mind. One thing I do want to mention though is be careful about 3betting these guys ~25% of the time, most will adjust and then it won't become as profitable. You can get away with doing it more often, but just don't overdo it. Good question.




Yeah I agree they can and sometimes do adjust. But I personally have the thought process of I want to force them to adjust. And if they dont its money in my pocket. Of course Id rather them never adjust but until they do I want to be exploiting them to the best of my ability.

for example one guy I played folded to 3bs 83% of the time. I was 3b ~25-28% and it took him 300 hands to adjust. Once i realized he adjusted (about 50 hands later). I started to cut back and become less polarized in my 3b range.

Some of these 50nl (not sure about 100nl players) take a super long time to adjust (if they adjust at all).

Im sure you probably know this but it might be helpful for someone else. Or if there is something incorect about that thought let me know.

Thank you

And its a great series so far.

Posted about 2 years ago

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Time Link to 00:32:29

@ 32:30 (sorry timeline link didn't post)
Wouldn't another good reason to float here with AJ on the 987r board in the 3bet pot be that villain is likely to barrel an A, J, or T with all his air? You've caught him barreling scary turn cards more than once, so I'd expect him to do this again on an A, J, or T. However, I do recognize some additional reasons to fold here you didn't mention (but maybe thought were obv).
1) If we complete our GS, we likely aren't getting any more action beyond a 2nd barrel since the board is so scary.
2) A J may not be a good card for us-he could have an overpair or a T in his range, so we couldn't take a lot of heat with TPTK here.

So if we decide to float here, what cards are we betting if he checks, and what are we doing if he 2 barrels on some of these "scare" cards (A/K/J/T/6)

This obv depends on what villain's range is here, so perhaps the more direct question is what's his range for either checking or betting a blank vs scary turn?
Thanks!

Posted about 2 years ago

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Yeah I agree they can and sometimes do adjust. But I personally have the thought process of I want to force them to adjust. And if they dont its money in my pocket. Of course Id rather them never adjust but until they do I want to be exploiting them to the best of my ability.

for example one guy I played folded to 3bs 83% of the time. I was 3b ~25-28% and it took him 300 hands to adjust. Once i realized he adjusted (about 50 hands later). I started to cut back and become less polarized in my 3b range.

Some of these 50nl (not sure about 100nl players) take a super long time to adjust (if they adjust at all).

Im sure you probably know this but it might be helpful for someone else. Or if there is something incorect about that thought let me know.

Thank you

And its a great series so far.



Nothing wrong with forcing them to adjust and to be honest I do miss some stuff on live play videos as I'm so concerned with filling dead air. Not sure if I would've 3bet him more if I saw that, but I definitely would've given it more consideration.

Thanks for the compliment

Posted about 2 years ago

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bosoxx,

Exellent video, 1 table, plenty of good spots that i could relate to , and plenty of good solid explanation as to your reason for taking a particular line.

looking forward to the next episode already

Steve

Posted about 2 years ago

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@ 32:30 (sorry timeline link didn't post)
Wouldn't another good reason to float here with AJ on the 987r board in the 3bet pot be that villain is likely to barrel an A, J, or T with all his air? You've caught him barreling scary turn cards more than once, so I'd expect him to do this again on an A, J, or T. However, I do recognize some additional reasons to fold here you didn't mention (but maybe thought were obv).
1) If we complete our GS, we likely aren't getting any more action beyond a 2nd barrel since the board is so scary.
2) A J may not be a good card for us-he could have an overpair or a T in his range, so we couldn't take a lot of heat with TPTK here.

So if we decide to float here, what cards are we betting if he checks, and what are we doing if he 2 barrels on some of these "scare" cards (A/K/J/T/6)

This obv depends on what villain's range is here, so perhaps the more direct question is what's his range for either checking or betting a blank vs scary turn?
Thanks!



Yes, that's actually a great reason to float as we saw he barreled an ace earlier and people seem to be much more likely to do that in a 3bet pot. However like you said a Jack doesn't do us a ton of good and it puts 4 to a straight on the board and it'll be really tough for us to continue facing heat.

As far as him checking a blank turn, I could see him doing it with a strong 8, any 9, or even a strong 7, and definitely a 7 with a GS. He'll also be giving up with random hands every once in a while. As far as him checking scary turns, I wouldn't be opposed to making a small bet if a 5,T, or J comes (I'd prefer it if we had something like AQ and not a J). A 5 isn't great since we don't have too many 6s in our range but he's not too likely to bluff shove over our bet anyways.

Betting blank turns his range is much wider, could be a random 2 barrel could be a straight to anything in between. We really don't have a ton of info on him at this point.

Not sure if I answered all your questions here, let me know.

Posted about 2 years ago

zenben

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Yes, that's actually a great reason to float as we saw he barreled an ace earlier and people seem to be much more likely to do that in a 3bet pot. However like you said a Jack doesn't do us a ton of good and it puts 4 to a straight on the board and it'll be really tough for us to continue facing heat.

As far as him checking a blank turn, I could see him doing it with a strong 8, any 9, or even a strong 7, and definitely a 7 with a GS. He'll also be giving up with random hands every once in a while. As far as him checking scary turns, I wouldn't be opposed to making a small bet if a 5,T, or J comes (I'd prefer it if we had something like AQ and not a J). A 5 isn't great since we don't have too many 6s in our range but he's not too likely to bluff shove over our bet anyways.

Betting blank turns his range is much wider, could be a random 2 barrel could be a straight to anything in between. We really don't have a ton of info on him at this point.

Not sure if I answered all your questions here, let me know.



Thanks-that's exactly what I was looking for. Just wanted to be sure I'm on the right track when it comes to weighing the positives/negatives of floating. Upon review, do you think folding was best here? My guess is it would be hard to estimate the potential ROI of a float with such little info on villain, but folding can't be a huge mistake, while floating could be -ev if he barrels a ton of blanks (and he HAS been betting a lot of turns).

Posted about 2 years ago

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I see your point but right now the new thing is turning made hands into bluffs so villian will put us on a hand that turned itself into a bluff alot if hes a reg or competent.

Posted about 2 years ago

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bosoxx,

Exellent video, 1 table, plenty of good spots that i could relate to , and plenty of good solid explanation as to your reason for taking a particular line.

looking forward to the next episode already

Steve



Thanks Steve

Posted about 2 years ago

bosoxx34

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Thanks-that's exactly what I was looking for. Just wanted to be sure I'm on the right track when it comes to weighing the positives/negatives of floating. Upon review, do you think folding was best here? My guess is it would be hard to estimate the potential ROI of a float with such little info on villain, but folding can't be a huge mistake, while floating could be -ev if he barrels a ton of blanks (and he HAS been betting a lot of turns).



Yeah I think folding is best here for the reasons you and oneilsurfer state.

Posted about 2 years ago

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pretty good video bosoxx, was there already a 50NL video? Also quick question regarding HU game selection, do you ever PTR your opponent before playing to make sure they aren't notorious hit n run opponents? I find it very useful to do at 50NL HU, has helped my game tremendously.

Posted about 2 years ago

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21 min, Board: Ts6dQhKd ; You hold Ad8d

German players are very aggro as a general rule. And many of them will fire turn with a pretty wide range on any board if you dont c-bet flop.

You have around 24% equity agains a probable value range, and I really think a call here is justified by the implied odds you get, if you hit your somewhat desguised flush.

If Villain has 2 pair+ as is his most likely valuerange I belive, he will allways bet-call river here. He could allso have a flushdraw(+pair), and some other draw + pair. He could even have complete air.

I was really stunned by your fold here, and in my head its very bad. If its not.. I hope to plug a leak right here and now .)

Great series so far! Just moved up to NL100hu, so this suits me very well. Keep em comming !

Posted about 2 years ago

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Correction: I dont think he will allways be betcalling river here, espesially if a J, hits, I think he will give up with most his hands.

Posted about 2 years ago

bosoxx34

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pretty good video bosoxx, was there already a 50NL video? Also quick question regarding HU game selection, do you ever PTR your opponent before playing to make sure they aren't notorious hit n run opponents? I find it very useful to do at 50NL HU, has helped my game tremendously.



Not very extensive but here is the 50nl video

And I do check PTR but don't put too much stock if someone says they're a hit and run opponent on there since I believe on mine it says the same thing.

Posted about 2 years ago

bosoxx34

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21 min, Board: Ts6dQhKd ; You hold Ad8d

German players are very aggro as a general rule. And many of them will fire turn with a pretty wide range on any board if you dont c-bet flop.

You have around 24% equity agains a probable value range, and I really think a call here is justified by the implied odds you get, if you hit your somewhat desguised flush.

If Villain has 2 pair+ as is his most likely valuerange I belive, he will allways bet-call river here. He could allso have a flushdraw(+pair), and some other draw + pair. He could even have complete air.

I was really stunned by your fold here, and in my head its very bad. If its not.. I hope to plug a leak right here and now .)

Great series so far! Just moved up to NL100hu, so this suits me very well. Keep em comming !



I actually completely forgot about implied odds in this hand. I'm not sure how audible it is but I'm adding up the pot odds at this point and knew it was close but didn't think I had enough but with implied odds it makes it a call. Thanks for pointing this out as it's a pretty big error on my part.

Posted about 2 years ago

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Not very extensive but here is the 50nl video

And I do check PTR but don't put too much stock if someone says they're a hit and run opponent on there since I believe on mine it says the same thing.


I'm pretty sure that there are people that post that you hit and run any time you quit them while ahead.

I forgot to take off auto-post blinds, somebody sat down when I was about to quit and folded his first hand. He posted on my PTR that I'm some sort of scumbag going around hit-n-running for 1BB.

Posted about 2 years ago

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Hey,

at the spot where you raise KTo on the KrQh3h board, how would you react to a shove or 3bet?

In my opinion, he probably will be flatting some of his weaker draws and most likely wont 3b bluff or valueraise a weaker king this early in the match. Therefore we are either crushed or flipping and it's a fold. Would you agree?

However I do think the check-raise and barrel for value when he just calls is a good plan Smile

Posted about 2 years ago

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Hello, I'm pretty new to heads up but i have "learned" that 3 betting with a polarised range is way better than 3 betting with cards u were doin' with against such an agressive opponent.(K9 'bout 3 times and Q9 also). My question is: Is it profitable to 3bet with cards like these? Wont we be dominated by the lot of K and Qx he can hold in his hand after callin' our 3bets? Will we be able to release our Q/Kx easily on a Q/K high flop? It seems tough to me to release our Q/Kx against a player like him after cbetting the Qxx flop (x<Q) and I'm pretty sure these are not the best cards we want to play oop in a 3 bet pot against an opponent like him. I personally would be stacked a lot in these kinda situations against an agressive player.
Waiting for your reply, with respect:
Trog-Air

Posted about 2 years ago

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It is profitable simply because he is folding a lot PF. However you do bring up a good point as we are dominated a lot. I wouldn't change anything until I knew more about his post flop tendencies in 3bet pots as far as how much he's willing to bluff, float, etc.

Also, I wanted to keep a pretty good frequency of 3betting and it just so happened that K9 and Q9 were the hands that were just good enough to 3bet. While possibly -EV because of the factors you stated, i think those hands are more -EV calling as this guy was aggressive post flop and it would be tough to take pots from him/get to SD.

So it was a little bit coincidental and bad luck that I had happened to 3bet those hands and in a vacuum I agree with your analysis, but based on him folding and me not getting great cards to 3bet I felt it was fine.

Posted about 2 years ago

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Around the 40min mark you mention that, 'your kinda frustrated that it looks like your playing fit or fold in 3bet pots'
Do you mean from the point of view of the video viewer or point of view of villian?

I'm thinking its kinda nice if this villian was thinking your prety fit or fold in 3bet pots, as it allows you to creditably rep things more often then then you normally would be able to.
Obv its not good to be fit or fold in 3 bet pots but an advantage if villian thinks we are imo.

Posted about 2 years ago

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Around the 40min mark you mention that, 'your kinda frustrated that it looks like your playing fit or fold in 3bet pots'
Do you mean from the point of view of the video viewer or point of view of villian?

I'm thinking its kinda nice if this villian was thinking your prety fit or fold in 3bet pots, as it allows you to creditably rep things more often then then you normally would be able to.
Obv its not good to be fit or fold in 3 bet pots but an advantage if villian thinks we are imo.



A little of both but more for the point of the video. As a video maker it's always cool to do some tricky stuff, but there just weren't many good opportunities for it here. Also, as a player it can also get a little frustrating to play fit or fold for like 5 straight 3bet pots, but I was more talking about the video point of view.

Also, agree 100% with your 2nd paragraph.

Posted about 2 years ago

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Hey,

at the spot where you raise KTo on the KrQh3h board, how would you react to a shove or 3bet?

In my opinion, he probably will be flatting some of his weaker draws and most likely wont 3b bluff or valueraise a weaker king this early in the match. Therefore we are either crushed or flipping and it's a fold. Would you agree?



Hi bosoxx, I'd like to get your opinion on this as well.

Just because I feel like his range if he 3bets on the flop is pretty much sets, KQ or flush draws, and I'm not sure offhand what our equity is against a flush but it feels like it would be a big equity mistake to check-raise top pair good kicker and then fold to a flush jam (which I assume you would have to do given his range has you flipping at best)

I think there is a non-zero chance that he flats AK or KQ here as well before either calling or jamming a safe turn.

Posted almost 2 years ago

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Hi bosoxx, I'd like to get your opinion on this as well.

Just because I feel like his range if he 3bets on the flop is pretty much sets, KQ or flush draws, and I'm not sure offhand what our equity is against a flush but it feels like it would be a big equity mistake to check-raise top pair good kicker and then fold to a flush jam (which I assume you would have to do given his range has you flipping at best)

I think there is a non-zero chance that he flats AK or KQ here as well before either calling or jamming a safe turn.



Agreed, when I was going through my never folding top pair stage I would get it in all the time in spots like that and basically be hoping to be against a draw. Unless we have a read I'm folding to a 3bet.

Posted almost 2 years ago

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I liked the video, but I think you play too weak PF.
You're giving up too much IP especially when he's 3betting so much. Also I would 4bet with blockers rather than J9s, which is a decent hand to call.
You say you need to have a reason to do everything, but that seemed very random to me

Posted over 1 year ago

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Also Q9o in the end made no sense to me

Posted over 1 year ago

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Why would you not call this? It's heads up, in position, nut flush and nut straight draws (and maybe even ace is good every now and then), at almost always a couple bucks of value in the river (with the straight) and even more value with the flush....

Posted over 1 year ago

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Why would you not call this? It's heads up, in position, nut flush and nut straight draws (and maybe even ace is good every now and then), at almost always a couple bucks of value in the river (with the straight) and even more value with the flush....



It's close, we're getting 2-1 in position and if all our outs are clean we're still not quite getting enough odds to call. Plus we don't have great implied odds because our only hidden outs are diamonds.

Posted over 1 year ago



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