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Push: Bones (#8) - Transition from Small to Midstakes

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Push: Bones (#8) - Transition from Small to Midstakes by bones

Bones plays midstakes full ring and 6 max sngs and discusses adjustments as you move up in stakes.

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Sit and Go'ers beware: DC's tournament specialists walk you through everything about STTs. Watch and learn how to destroy sit and go tournaments: when to bluff, when to fold, and of course, when to push.

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  • Game: mttsng
  • Stakes: Mid Stakes
  • 72 minutes long
  • Posted about 2 years ago

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Comments for Push: Bones (#8) - Transition from Small to Midstakes

sohoskiracer

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First for rungood, and TYVM Bones Smile im just starting this vid up.

Posted over 2 years ago

SlackBladder

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Bones those tourny pop ups are annoying as hell on stars.
In stars main lobby click requests and its around the second up from the bottom
Disable tourny notifications.

Posted over 2 years ago

SlackBladder

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Your nemesis Adamjay19, top right game around the 56 minutes was a calling station with timing tells.

He always called your blinds and insta checked when he missed, trouble was you often checked behind suspecting him to be trapping, this gave him permission to fire the river with his silly bet.

What suprised me is some of the shoves/overshoves you made against other players you thought were "thinking" players yet you played adamjay19 quite passively.

What were your thoughts on him?
I did look him up on a certain site but would like to know what you were thinking inside about his plays.

Posted over 2 years ago

bones

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that i wasnt going to try to get him to fold

To expand on this, there are lots of different types of fish and their styles vary much more than the styles of regs and decent players. What might work on some regs won't work on others, but it's a much more fine line and one that requires a bit more thought. Weak players generally have very glaring leaks that are just a part of who they are, and you should completely adjust your style to maximize your ev vs. that particular player.

My thoughts on adam (from this game, he may have just been bored or letting his gf play or whatever), was that he was going to want to see flops and turns, even if that meant committing a large % of his stack. So what's the worst way to play vs someone like that? Try to make him fold a hand or put in chips when you plan on check/folding at some point in the hand. As I talked about after the KQ hand, I felt kinda dirty about how I played it even though it's "standard" vs most of the player pool in these games.

Posted over 2 years ago

Zialum

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sohoskiracer

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Awesome.



lol was lost on me Poke Tongue

Also Bones, nice vid, got me back into the mode to grind SnG Wiz (i know you cant grind SnG wiz, but thats what it feels like at times)

Posted over 2 years ago

mrhobbeys

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Time Link to 00:38:46

What is the definition of hero call?

Are you avoiding this/(any) hero calls on video just because it is marginal?

What is good criteria for making hero calls?

Posted over 2 years ago

mrpuma

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on the bottom right in the very beginning with KQs in mp is that a standard open for you or would you usually fold it?

Posted over 2 years ago

bones

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What is the definition of hero call?

Are you avoiding this/(any) hero calls on video just because it is marginal?

What is good criteria for making hero calls?



Hero call is basically a really thin call that is probably outside of the range of hands which you should call with on a regular basis.

You don't need to be making hero calls in sngs for a number of reasons, especially if you haven't spend a TON of time thinking about hand reading. If I say that I'm not doing something because it's a vid, it's usually because I think it's a -ev play in the long run and I don't want you guys to misinterpret something I do as something you should incorporate into your play on a regular basis.


As for the KQs open, it's standard for me but folding is okay as well.

Posted over 2 years ago

urinpain

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Time Link to 00:07:13

Don't you think betting less than half potsize on such a drawy board looks a bit suspicious? Besides we still should think of some protection, don't we?

Posted over 2 years ago

urinpain

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Time Link to 00:22:42

So by saying you would b/c the flop you are willing to play for stacks here?

Posted over 2 years ago

bones

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Don't you think betting less than half potsize on such a drawy board looks a bit suspicious? Besides we still should think of some protection, don't we?




Regardless of the size of the bet (as long as it's reasonable) we can get the money in on the turn, so it's not like we have to plan out our sizing on 3 streets like we do with deeper stacks. I don't know how this size looks suspicious since I have around the middle to bottom of my value range. The only hand I wouldn't bet this size with is QQ, which I'd check. Also given the way the hand played out, I never have air, so that's not really a consideration.

As for protection, well I'm not worried about him turning 2 pair since it would give me a straight or a set pretty much everytime. If he has a pair and a straight draw, he's probably just shoving over my smallish bet. If he has anything else, he's drawing pretty much dead. If I bomb the flop, he's prob just c/c. It's not a huge deal either way, but I'd like to give him a bit of room to jam.

Posted over 2 years ago

urinpain

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Time Link to 00:44:47

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talking about him floating a lot and beeing loose, why do you still decide to cbet a flop where he will be calling with a lot of hands?

Posted over 2 years ago

bones

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So by saying you would b/c the flop you are willing to play for stacks here?



If I bet, I wouldn't be folding to a shove. If I check, I'm calling a bet on all blanks (anything but a J or Q really) or perhaps shoving depending on sizing.

I don't really like the verbiage of "willing to play for stacks", but yeah that's the case.

Posted over 2 years ago

urinpain

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Time Link to 01:04:52

I definitely would have shoved the K8o here, at least I would have thought about it. The fact that you have a few hundred less chips than him shouldn't change a lot(?)
Maybe because you think he will be calling too loose?

Posted over 2 years ago

urinpain

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Comments in generel:
I'd love to see more of 6max/5max videos! No matter if reviews, live play or even some kind of blackboard video.

Maybe you could try to slim your HUD a little bit, it's pretty annoying that you can't see most of the stacksize because of the HUD overlay :S

Posted over 2 years ago

Pazman

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Thanks Bones. Nice vid. I'd love to see more of the 27s 9man vids as I'm just making the transition from 16s to 27s. In fact I'm playing half and half during sessions right now. I'd love to hear more about the adjustments other then adjusting to the fact that our villains are calling our button and sb shoves looser.

Thanks.

Posted over 2 years ago

PanchoStern

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Comments in generel:
I'd love to see more of 6max/5max videos! No matter if reviews, live play or even some kind of blackboard video.

Maybe you could try to slim your HUD a little bit, it's pretty annoying that you can't see most of the stacksize because of the HUD overlay :S



He needs to set it like me to transparent so you just see the numbers & not the black background.

Posted over 2 years ago

urinpain

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He needs to set it like me to transparent so you just see the numbers & not the black background.


yeah, but this way you see numbers overlayn by numbers, still sucks somehow :S

Posted over 2 years ago

SlackBladder

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Sorry bones i gave you the wrong information about blocking those annoying tourny pop-ups
In the main lobbey click "options" on the top row and then put a tick next to "block popups with automatic tourny announcements"

Posted over 2 years ago

corkeye

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Time Link to 00:34:00

Hi Bones, your comment on open shoving any two from the button heads up with under 10 bbs... I have a question about that.

If we keep shoving won't this become exploitable - i.e we are heads up and won't villain figure out what we're doing and start adjusting and calling us much wider? You shove I think 6 high on the top right, isn't that slightly too wide?

With the difference in payout something like 30% and 50% from second to first, i'd only shove 6 high there if he was ridiculously tight passive.

Posted over 2 years ago

corkeye

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Time Link to 00:49:47

Bottom right, you fold A7 suited quite quickly here. I'd actually maybe be inclined to shove 15 bbs here... thoughts?

Posted over 2 years ago

bones

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He has to be calling about 40% for the shove to be breakeven. That's all pairs, all aces, all kings, Q9+, Q5s, JT, J8s, T9s. I don't think the average player calls that much, so I like shoving in that spot. If I see someone adjust, then I'll tighten up just a bit, but people just fold too much. In general, don't worry about being exploitable unless you have a good reason to think that someone is smart enough to do it.

Posted over 2 years ago



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