Ulkis
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To my mind this video was one of the best demonstrations how one player can be on such a different level compared to the opponent.
Poor NutCase30. I hope these players who get steamrolled in DC videos never see the videos they're in. That would be very demoralizing. Luckily us DC members recognize the DC player nicks and get out of the way before any serious monetary damage is done.
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jajvirta
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Poor NutCase30. I hope these players who get steamrolled in DC videos never see the videos they're in. That would be very demoralizing. Luckily us DC members recognize the DC player nicks and get out of the way before any serious monetary damage is done.
Yeah, but if one takes it as a learning opportunity, I think it's not as bad as it sounds. Though much monies would be lost, most likely.
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jajvirta
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I have to second Ulkis's opinion in that it's was nice demonstration of other player's superior skills. I like the way DeathDonkey was able to keep on top of the pace and mood of the match, ie. not trying to run over the opponent all the time.
By the way, HU 2/4 at FT with rakeback still adds up to something like 4-5BB/100 rake, right?
By the way times two, I actually sent a feedback to the site I play that the rake in small stakes HU Limit is unbearable and anyone playing that will lose money in the long run. I especially emphasized that the difference in rake to 5-max and full ring is atriciously huge. I did get a response that they will be forwarding this request, but nothing will likely happen. But I think more people should give feedback about this. It's ridicilous that you have to be world-class player to beat the rake at games where the rake takes something like 8BB/100.
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Raist0000
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Ulkis
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Poor NutCase30. I hope these players who get steamrolled in DC videos never see the videos they're in. That would be very demoralizing. Luckily us DC members recognize the DC player nicks and get out of the way before any serious monetary damage is done.
Yeah, but if one takes it as a learning opportunity, I think it's not as bad as it sounds. Though much monies would be lost, most likely.
Unfortunately most of these players are not really interested in learning, because they already know it all and are doing everything correctly already. I don't mind Deathdonkey, Krantz, and others from DC, and several people from 2+2 referring to the fish and bad players but if someone like me goes on ranting in the forums about it I take it with a pinch of salt. A nOOb constantly referring to fish and bad players looks silly to me. But there is a lot of arrogance in the forums.
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MickeyWins
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DD, great video!!
your mind is amazing.
Listening to you try to get all that is goin on in your head into the short period of time between plays, is somewhat amusing and on the other hand somewhat demoralizing. is there hope?
Ulkis....on your point. What I can't stand is when players call other players something other than Fish. Fish has a definition that is understandable. This f'ing moron @%@$#^$ is just bad manners.
Plus, I think it makes the describer look steeeeeewwwwwwwwwpid! and childish.
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CasaJJ
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Great video.
DD's thoughts on how the pacing and momentum of the match affects play was very helpful.
Next video in the series... "How to run good and flop Quads or sets whenever you have a Queen!". LOL. Obviously DD owned the guy, but man was that ever a sick run of cards. What impressed me was how he was able to use that good run and continue the momentum on to subsequent hands.
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DeathDonkey
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Hypnotic
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Sick video.
This guy had no chance against DD, but the fact that DD also ran very hot made this a complete thrashing.
I really appreciated the strategy section about how to handle preflop limpers. I think that I have not been raising the weak tight ones enough.
I think that the comment about just checking the option with split hands like K3 is great. Not only because they are weaker holdings, but every time I start to raise limpers, they seem to get fed up with it and just raise pre-flop and stop limping in. Like you said, this should help keep them from finding out what you are doing.
Great advice. Great video.
I plan on playing heads up along with this series. In week 1 to 2, I am up 100BB in cash games (+paid 100BB in rake!!) and had a 67% win rate with 28% ROI over 160 heads up SnGs.
Listen to DD and do what he says! (and run hot)
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CasaJJ
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In week 1 to 2, I am up 100BB in cash games (+paid 100BB in rake!!) and had a 67% win rate with 28% ROI over 160 heads up SnGs.
Listen to DD and do what he says! (and run hot)
Hypnotic, where are you playing the HU LHE SNGs if you don't mind me asking?
I tried to play some on Poker Stars last night and was very surprised at how slowly they filled up.
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Hypnotic
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muscleandmoney420
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at 27:40 board comes 8 5 3 all spades and you have Ad6d, he donks out and u say it is probably a small pair or a draw, then a six falls off and he bets again. why not raise? gives him worse odds for the draw and beats the small pair. board comes T nonspade and he bets and u call (no raise here either?) he shows Js7h
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DeathDonkey
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He will bluff with all his draws on the river and if I raise the turn he will check/fold unimproved, so I win the same amount vs those hands but lose more when he has me beat. I also want to encourage him to fire 3 barrels as I am very comfortable calling down lightly vs those type of players. I generally don't like to say this but I think the results show my play had a lot of merit
-DeathDonkey
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muscleandmoney420
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PygmyHero
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Hey Chris, I have a question about a hand at ~35:00. You have Q3o OTB and the board is 4J62r. You raised PF, he called and he check/called the flop. You elected to check back the turn, river a 5, and put in a raise. What was your plan if the river bricked off and villain bet into you? In my mind your Q high has some SD value, but nothing to write home about.
At this point in the match the dynamic was pretty well established - you were beating him pretty badly and he was generally spewing (especially firing 3 barrel bluffs UI in pretty hopeless spots). But he hadn't had much of a chance to take the lead in situations where you relinquished it or he was OOP.
Part of the reason I'm asking is because I think this situation seems somewhat analogous to deciding to check back UI Ax hands on the turn and facing an almost inevitable river bet.
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DeathDonkey
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Well I don't think its quite analagous simply because the amount of king and ace high hands he could hold is non trivial. I strongly try to emphasize relative hand values, and your hand reading here is very decent, realizing that queen high has potential SD value against villain described, but at the end of the day, it will be a mistake against all but the spewiest or most predictable villains to get to showdown with more than a certain amount of non paired hands. What that amount is is debateable but one way we can certainly achieve a decent balance is just by using our own absolute hand strength (for instance just saying "ok any ten high or worse I'm just going to fold due to the unlikeliness the hand is good vs any range and to give me some hands that I am simply betting once and then giving up with unimproved). Here I think this weak queen high is close to qualifying for similar status.
It's really hard to say so much later without the benefit of the "flow", but I think folding the river unimproved in this one is not unreasonable, the 2 is far from a brick on the turn given his flop peel, and his king high and ace high value bets or bluffs that I can't beat are significant too imo.
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mikefut
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Pid Koker
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Time Link to 00:34:14
Years late to the party (and new to HUHU)...
What kinds of things are going through your head at the point where a tilted opponent starts to 3!/cap a lot more, and put in a lot more bets preflop with marginal holdings. What adjustments are you making, and how does this affect your preflop decisions?
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liquid_quik
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hi Pid Koker:
basically if someone is going spew crazy you should also open up your game more. going into a shell will cause you to be run over. i would possibly tighten my preflop ranges to the mid 80s%, but not much tighter.. you just have to be willing to put in some action with lots of hands and know that you'e making better choices than him
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