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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by threads13 (Mid Stakes)

Time Link to 00:04:28

Could you explain wheres the value in falting K7s OOP vs a CO open and BTN call ?

Could you explain wheres the value in falting K7s OOP vs a CO open and BTN call ?

I have a question on this exact spot as well. The CO seems to be on the loose side, so I guess his CO stealing range is wide, so would you consider flatting K7s type of hand even if the BTN and the SB folds?

Interesting how you turn your hand into a bluff OTF. Basically we are relying almost only on FE here (weak opponent range) and some backdoor equity + 1 over. Considering we expect him to fold a lot of the time because he has air a good amount of the time, what about min raising to something like 25 instead of 30, to make our bluffs cheap?

I have the same question as above. Seems like it was between raise and flat, is fold an option. Also the kk hand vs nit who raise our flop cbet and bet large on turn. Feel like it a set like 90% of time.

Time Link to 00:36:34

I guess that here when called, if we don't pick up more equity OTT and the turn is not a good bluffing card like a A, we will shut down a lot?

Also, I guess that if you pick up a 9 or a J OTT you will try to get a cheap showdown?

Time Link to 00:06:04

What if the two seats of the villains were switched? Without any general reads, would you recommend calling in this type of spot when we know the REG is usually just isolating the fish with the hopes of floating the flop and stealing it on the turn with a bet. (granted they are more of a one and done and not cbetting the turn) I guess that is really what you accomplished but do you think that is better than raising in general when you clearly see someone iso?

Would love some info on how to customize popups on pt4. Recently downloaded and can't figure it out. Maybe someone could do a vid on the ins and outs.

Hey guys... just want to apologize for the delay in getting to your questions. I'm in the process of moving out to Vegas so things have been hectic to this week. I want to make sure I don't rush my answers so don't have much time to respond fully right now. I'll make a point to set aside some time to answer them in the next few days. By the time the next episode comes out I should be settling in.

Thanks for watching and sorry for the delay.

Threads13 taking down Vegas. That's what I like to hear.

Great, hope your move to Vegas will go well Threads13. Take the time you need, no worries! Your message just shows that you are dedicated on providing quality answers to the community instead of just answering quick lines.

Could you explain wheres the value in falting K7s OOP vs a CO open and BTN call ?

I have a question on this exact spot as well. The CO seems to be on the loose side, so I guess his CO stealing range is wide, so would you consider flatting K7s type of hand even if the BTN and the SB folds?

Interesting how you turn your hand into a bluff OTF. Basically we are relying almost only on FE here (weak opponent range) and some backdoor equity + 1 over. Considering we expect him to fold a lot of the time because he has air a good amount of the time, what about min raising to something like 25 instead of 30, to make our bluffs cheap?

The guy who flatted the pre-flop raise is 52/16. I expect be able to make money a lot of different ways, and I can even steal the pot from the CO when he c-bets and the 50% VPIP-guy folds. When we bink TP and the TAG cbets we can happily xc two streets. In some situations we'll be able to find some 3barrel calldowns.

We can make a raise on the flop as small as we think we can get away with. People often just spit-call min-raises so I like to make a little bigger than 25. 28 is probably ideal.

I'd often take the same line vs a BTN c-bet (say BTN min-raises preflop and I flatted in the BB with K7s... I'd xr the flop here a decent amount) unless I have reads that raising when I rep nothing will induce him to never fold. If that's the case then I flat a lot of big cards and big pairs to raise the flop a lot so that he pays me off with air.

I have the same question as above. Seems like it was between raise and flat, is fold an option. Also the kk hand vs nit who raise our flop cbet and bet large on turn. Feel like it a set like 90% of time.

Can you time link me to the KK hand?

I guess that here when called, if we don't pick up more equity OTT and the turn is not a good bluffing card like a A, we will shut down a lot?

Also, I guess that if you pick up a 9 or a J OTT you will try to get a cheap showdown?

It's a very read-dependant situation. There's some players that peel the flop here ultra light and in that case I'm merely raising the flop to set up a light a two barrel. In that case I'm betting nearly 100% of turns. If I have no reads I would wait for equity to get picked up.

If I bink a pair it's dependent on what I think my perceived range is. Take a J, for example. My opponent may view that as a scare card and thus my perceived range is weak if I bet it. Then I'll bet my J for value with the intention of snapping a jam (I won't literally snap, but it's a clear call).

It's an interesting spot if my opponent is very happy to fold the flop and in general kind of scared of aggression. I could see betting the turn for protection and to set up a hero call on the river. In that case I bet small enough to get the draws to call. Right around half pot. I could also see a xc, xf line. I'm not really sure which I like better, tbh.

What if the two seats of the villains were switched? Without any general reads, would you recommend calling in this type of spot when we know the REG is usually just isolating the fish with the hopes of floating the flop and stealing it on the turn with a bet. (granted they are more of a one and done and not cbetting the turn) I guess that is really what you accomplished but do you think that is better than raising in general when you clearly see someone iso?

Are you referring to the K7s hand? Hope so because here we go!

If you mean a fish limps and the REG iso's, I'd probably 3b it in the SB and flat in the BB.

I'm not going to be looking to only float or raise. It's going to depend on what sort of hand value I hit, what my reads are, and what I can rep by flatting. For example, floating with a BDFD on 852 is not going to be as strong as doing it on AT2. Can you see where I'm going with that?

In response to raising vs flatting. It will be very dependent on the situation with a hand that I'm happy to get it in with... say JJ... there are merits to both flatting and 3betting. What is important is to consider ask questions and see if the answers point you in a certain direction. How likely is PFR to 4b light? How likely will limper be to flat the 2b? 3b? How often I have 3b the PFR lately? What's my general history with both players? Those are the sort of questions I'd ask myself to figure out what to do with a hand in that area. In general I want to play as many pots as I can with the fish so that leads to flatting hands like JJ more than usual. I also havea competing goal of stopping the other guy from doing that. This leads to us 3-betting a lot. This tends to make our range a bit 3b/fold heavy. That's another thing to be aware of because a smart opponent should 4b you a lot in those spots. If he knows this then 3-betting JJ is pretty nice.

There's no quick answer on which route to go, but both those are some things to consider, and I'm sure there are more that I didn't think of.

Time Link to 00:15:16

What you think about checking that flop? If he is a nit maybe you can get value from worse pp like QQ, JJ when he bet on the flop and maybe on the turn...Also when you get raised on that dry board its tough to play KK or even an AA, cause we are geussing that he has a set or he is bluffin...

Time Link to 00:19:29

What about QJoff suit. Do you play it in this spot. Call, 3b, fold? And what about other off suit broadways like QT, KT, KJ, KQ, AT, you 3b bet there or also call?

What you think about checking that flop? If he is a nit maybe you can get value from worse pp like QQ, JJ when he bet on the flop and maybe on the turn...Also when you get raised on that dry board its tough to play KK or even an AA, cause we are geussing that he has a set or he is bluffin...

Well, I don't think it's tough if we get raised. He's really unlikely to play back so we just fold.

Checking is a reasonable option though. It helps us develop reads on how he plays and may do some of the things that you mentioned. If he does or doesn't do those things then at least we have the reads so we can play these spots more +EV in the future.

What about QJoff suit. Do you play it in this spot. Call, 3b, fold? And what about other off suit broadways like QT, KT, KJ, KQ, AT, you 3b bet there or also call?

3-betting seems -EV to me. You're basically just building a pot with a medicore showdown equity hand and little steal equity, I think vs these players flatting all of those is fine, but once you get in the KQo, AJo range you might cross the treshold of equity showdown equity that 3-betting is better. It depends more specifically on how your opponent will play, stack sizes, etc. Vs 45-100bb stacks I like flatting. Vs shorter I like getting it in via 3betting.

Time Link to 00:26:44

PT4 looks more and more interesting compare to HM. Was searching for Fold to 5b stat in HM and havent found it. And there in PT4 it's present. Or maybe you create it by yourself?

PT4 looks more and more interesting compare to HM. Was searching for Fold to 5b stat in HM and havent found it. And there in PT4 it's present. Or maybe you create it by yourself?

I am pretty sure it's a custom stat. I didn't create it by myself though.

Time Link to 00:29:15

If you called here instead of raising, how do you think the rest of the hand would of played out?