wangtangkiki
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I opened the A7o hand because the 3 guys to my left had very high Fold to Steal. The really aggressive guy that 3bet has an 85~ Fold to Steal i believe.
I usually Cbet 1/2 pot on dry boards like the Q44 board because there are very few hands that can call that flop. I'm not sure why I checked that turn. When watching the video, I was sure I barreled the turn, it's what I would have done right now heh. I guess I just had a mind lapse. How do you play the turn if you think the villain cold calls with pocket pairs/SCs/KQ/KJ/AT/AQ/QJ ? There are several Qx hands I dominate, but there are a lot of pocket pairs that will only call one street if I barrel the turn, but if I check + they check back, they will call wider so I get 2 streets of value from pocket pairs.. There are 25 combos that I dominate (AQs,KQs,AQo,KQo) which also have TPTK.. I removed the combos in which I block. There are 40 combos of pocket pairs (JJ-44, removed 5 combos of 44, and 3 combos of 66) that will call a flop bet, check back turn, and call river bet.. I didn't include 22/33 although people get sticky with them.
Do you suggest Cbetting 2/3 pot on even A33 or K72r? I bet 1/2 pot on dry boards as a bluff, and I bet 1/2 pot on dry boards for value. In 3bet pots I almost always bet 1/2 pot, or slightly more if there's a FD on the flop. I do it so I don't have bet sizing tells. I also bet 1/2 pot vs fish as bluff cbets on most boards (except ones that hit their range, the ugly boards.. 9s 8s 7s)
Btw, the girl in the background was Kate Upton lol. I cut off the video short because I got down to 4 tables and everyone would be distracted by Kate Upton in the background 
I can see the bet sizes under my HUD pretty easily. I think the video I recorded makes it look darker or my screen is brighter, but even if I can't see it, it says how much the bet size is on the call button.
The K otr hand was to get value out of KQ,KJ. I don't think he checks down anything that is beating me. I actually thought he would 3bet with AK there since he's pretty aggressive.
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Buck_Neket
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wangtangkiki
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I forgot to add that I opened T4o because I'm getting direct odds to open ATC based on their Fold to Steal %.. I open to 2.5x bb (I guess it's 2.6bb now since the move from 10nl), because it only needs to work 62.5% (That was at 10nl, just did the math, and it's now 65% if you steal to 2.6bb (.65c) at 25nl).. Another benefit is that it actually helps your redline. I don't raise to 2.5x to help my redline. I do it because it saves me money over time. If you get 3b, and fold after raising to 3x bb, you lose 3bb.. Well now with 2.6x bb raise, you only lose 2.6bb obviously. That saves you .4bb each time you get 3bet compared to a standard 3x bb raise.. which will add up a whole lot. Since we do have the button, we will obviously have position through out the hand.. so just in case we do get called, we still have position thankfully.
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VarianceMonkey
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This was probably the best episode of the series yet. Really liked the explanation of cbet sizing. For someone like me who cbets around 80%, and has a bit higher VPIP, I think there are more spots where cbetting 1/2 pot or even less might be fine - mostly as a cheap bluff on dry boards, but I can get on board with 2/3 pot betting most of the time for reasons given in the vid. Thank you wangtangkiki for submitting your vid and getting into quite a few interesting spots. Thank you GS for your clear explanations.
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goldseraph
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Do you suggest Cbetting 2/3 pot on even A33 or K72r? I bet 1/2 pot on dry boards as a bluff, and I bet 1/2 pot on dry boards for value. In 3bet pots I almost always bet 1/2 pot, or slightly more if there's a FD on the flop. I do it so I don't have bet sizing tells. I also bet 1/2 pot vs fish as bluff cbets on most boards (except ones that hit their range, the ugly boards.. 9s 8s 7s).
I do vary my cbet sizes based on numerous factors - hand equity, fold equity, opponent type, flop texture, etc. It is hard to multitable though and fine tune every cbet precisely, plus it is good for balance to have a more 'standard' size on flops that aren't extremely wet or dry. My 'standard' cbet is 2/3 pot, i think that is better than having it be 1/2 or 3/4.
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goldseraph
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I forgot to add that I opened T4o because I'm getting direct odds to open ATC based on their Fold to Steal %.. I open to 2.5x bb (I guess it's 2.6bb now since the move from 10nl), because it only needs to work 62.5% (That was at 10nl, just did the math, and it's now 65% if you steal to 2.6bb (.65c) at 25nl).. Another benefit is that it actually helps your redline. I don't raise to 2.5x to help my redline. I do it because it saves me money over time. If you get 3b, and fold after raising to 3x bb, you lose 3bb.. Well now with 2.6x bb raise, you only lose 2.6bb obviously. That saves you .4bb each time you get 3bet compared to a standard 3x bb raise.. which will add up a whole lot. Since we do have the button, we will obviously have position through out the hand.. so just in case we do get called, we still have position thankfully.
Be careful of a few things taking this line of reasoning for stealing with super super horrible hands. Sample size is important, if a guy has a 90% fold blinds to steal and it's only 50 or 100 hands that can be wildly inaccurate. Also, if you just look at the overall fold to steal, that doesn't take into account positional factors precisely. I look at the popup for the fold to steal stat to see how much they 3bet from SB and BB vs each position. I probably wouldn't steal with T4o unless I had a rock solid read that they are just an insane folding machine from the blinds. That hand is in like the very bottom of our range and you have to fold something.
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goldseraph
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goldseraph
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This was probably the best episode of the series yet. Really liked the explanation of cbet sizing. For someone like me who cbets around 80%, and has a bit higher VPIP, I think there are more spots where cbetting 1/2 pot or even less might be fine - mostly as a cheap bluff on dry boards, but I can get on board with 2/3 pot betting most of the time for reasons given in the vid. Thank you wangtangkiki for submitting your vid and getting into quite a few interesting spots. Thank you GS for your clear explanations.
thanks for the compliment! I really do like to hear that my years of working hard at poker have actually given me some knowledge that others find helpful! I agree with you completely about cbetting.
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goldseraph
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Table 2, excellent explanation of why to squeeze in this spot. I get in to this situation often enough, but definitely don't capitalize on it enough.
squeezing for fold equity + thin value against the fish vs a reg raiser with pretty wide range + fish/loose cold caller is a really good spot that can be missed if you're not paying enough attention.
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goldseraph
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ar 47:09, how come you say not to set mine with 66? When should we be set mining at 25NL now?
set mine when the pot looks to be going multiway, and stacks are reasonably deep. Be aware of aggressive 3betters behind as well. Also try to play the higher pocket pairs like 77+ that at least have SOME postflop playability.
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