pumpui
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i think thats way too tight fold on this network and limit, i see people overplaying their hands so much in these spots, specially the fishy players as u have him tagged, hands like 9x are the nuts for them in that spot from my experience
i agree that its different if the 5 was something else, but its also a bad card for the fish cause of the straight possibilities so he "protects" his hand with the small raise, seen way too much stuff like that so i could never fold it, although i play more normal tables but i think the fish plays the same on the anons too
also u can turn of the folded cards if those bothers u
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pumpui
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interesting to hear that ur cbet% is so high and succesful, i felt there was quite alot floats and playbacks which led me to stop cbetting that much and now i cbet way too low, gotta get it up again!
also ive noticed that regs like to CR dry flops alot (in that J9 hand) so a 3bet bluff wouldve been fine there although u have like u said one of the worst hands
nice video, keep em coming!
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terp
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thanks pumpui! i have one more planned for this series, but beyond that nothing in the queue.
as far as the AA: i am open to criticism. i'd like to hear from some other viewers/players, but it did strike me as a correct (albeit painful) fold at the time.
people are playing back a bit in spots, but if you are willing to fight back again or barrel, you can easily scoop some more profit. even though i've noticed a few curious playbacks from regs, i've succeeded quite a bit in these spots.
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Tech9ines
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i also think this is a little tight, i think you are going to get checked to alot OTT when calling a raise here...i think getting to the turn and re-evaluating his range based on his next action is the best play, i see alot of weak/bluffy ch/r's at these stakes, ch/r's on these board are definately spots to be cautious in 3b pots because of what your range looks like here, (if villian thinks about this and it matters to him/her) and knows him/her can get away with making you fold big pairs you may be exploited, if villian is just a fish and playing his hand vs the board then im instafolding (wow i have a flopped set/straight when he re raised me pre/ im gonna check and look weak so he puts money in and im gonna raise him!!!)....its a crying fold but as played i may call and see villians action OTT imo...
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terp
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some good points, tech9
the most important thing to remember playing anon is that you are playing the player pool. you are only playing an individual as far as you can differentiate him from the pool as a whole. do we have some info even just in this hand to do that? yes, we do - he's minraised and called a raise and c/r a low board after a lot of deliberation.
i'm not worried about exploitability in the pure sense. i am looking to make the most +ev decisions. when playing with information about your opponents, you are looking to be exploitable to maximize ev. you will valuebet too thin, you will bet sizes that turn your range face up, and you will fold too often in other spots. in other words, i am not worried specifically about the possibility of someone making me fold AA. all i am concerned with is if this is a profitable peel - not whether he can *ever* bluff here, but whether he bluffs enough for it to be.
i'd like to again point out it's not really a true 3bet pot. given he minraised and called OOP, we can presume he is probably fishy and that both his opening and continuing ranges are wider than normal. since he had the opportunity to reraise pre, i'd also like to discount some combos (possibly most) of the sort of "big" hands that he could be overplaying that i beat (basically overpairs). further, the stack to pot ratio is less favorable for me to stack off with one pair than it would be in a true reraised pot.
last, i don't feel that i will necessarily be better informed on the turn, lest i get a very good card (basically just a 5 or an A). because i have not seen many thin value c/r with stuff like J9/TT here, i believe i should be deciding on the flop.
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Tech9ines
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VVhiteKnight
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I am grinding the nl50 anons atm. Might be of interest to you in regards to how I mark players. I go green for fish, grey for a fullstack player (i mark anyone with less than fullstack green) who has done something that is odd but not quite enough to mark green (basically to keep an eye on him). I then go yellow when someone 3 bets me, orange when they have 3bet me a few times and then red for players who are 3betting me a tonne, also red for players who have done things like cold 4bet then folded to jam.
Sounds a little complicated but since there is so little info available on anons i think when you notice something its best to make the best of that info and mark a player accordingly.
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