Episode Four

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Episode Four

danzasmack takes us back to the tables! And moves up! Watch danzasmack play some aggro 3/6!

tags: danzasmack limit hold'em 3/6 shorthanded ipod friendly aggressive

This Series: Shouldn't Fold

Danzasmack continues DeucesCracked's smash hit The Price is Right and plays/studies 1/2 through 3/6 LHE.

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Comments for Episode Four

danzasmack
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Long video imo. Some great hands in here though. I can't believe people folded to some of these bets.

Posted Mar 26, 2008 10:14am

jajvirta
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Long video imo. Some great hands in here though. I can't believe people folded to some of these bets.



Haven't watched it yet, but the good old "bluff with bottom of your range" worked for once? ;-)

Posted Mar 26, 2008 10:48am

danzasmack
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No, just some spots where I fire twice when the turn cards hits every peeling range...and villain folds.

Posted Mar 26, 2008 7:28pm

Entity
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No, just some spots where I fire twice when the turn cards hits every peeling range...and villain folds.



I love those moments.

Posted Mar 26, 2008 7:37pm

Cactus Jack
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Maybe your best vid yet. Thanks for the introduction into the Prisoner's Dilemma. Sent me scurrying off to the Wikipedia. :) I don't understand it, but I see a little of what you're saying. (I doubt it, but it makes me feel better.)

Gonna take a couple more times to get everything out of it. Packed full.

Thanks. Lots of bang for buck.

CJ

Posted Mar 26, 2008 9:41pm

MickeyWins
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good video.

I liked your term "poker rant", keep that in.

I enjoy your rantings the most. You sure jammed a lot of info into this vid.
I will revisit it, as its difficult to absorb it all in once thru.

Posted Mar 27, 2008 5:18am

iplaylimit
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I have a question. At 14 min mark BB called a raise by UTG + 1 and flop came J32. And you commented that BB should c/r with A2o.

I can understand c/r A2o here, as you should be ahead and often have villain reversed dominated. But would you do it with K2 or weaker 2s?

Posted Mar 28, 2008 5:14pm

xrosswind
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danzasmack,
in this video you commented that many players do ok at $0.50/1 and $1/2 6 max but can't beat $2/4. It so happens I am one of those players. What do you think is the reason for this, is the average player at $2/4 that much better than the average player at $1/2, or are there other reasons?

Posted Mar 28, 2008 7:51pm

PygmyHero
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Hey Chuck, this is an excellent series and a great follow up to The Price is Right. Seeing the transition from micro to small stakes has been very useful and informative.

I have two very minor requests:

1) Please consider turning off your Tournament notifications (the big blue things that periodically pop into the top of the table), at least for the video. I find them a little distracting.

2) In episode three I really felt you were speaking quickly - like to the point that I couldn't always understand/follow you. It wasn't as much of a problem in this episode, but still a little bit. It's just that when your speech picks up you sometimes start to mutter. Anyway, it's just that I don't really want to miss anything, whether it be informative or humorous.

Anyway, those are my only complaints. I know they're small, but that's because you make really good videos.

Posted Apr 5, 2008 3:08am

golden dorado
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Chuck,

In minute 53 you are faced with a 15:1 call with 3 outs to the ace on the flop. You comment that you need 18:1 here, but I'm thinking you only need 15:1 here. I think this is an easy call, can you comment?

Posted May 5, 2008 10:24am

golden dorado
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Sorry, my comment above is for Episode 3, not 4. My bad.

Posted May 5, 2008 10:36am

Peesocake
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Hey Danza,

After lengthy discussions on episode 3, I find that nothing is bugging me in this one, that is to say, I didn't see plays that looked 'spewy' to me. Now, that may be because I actually spent so much time on ep3, and sort of have absorbed some of those plays. Or it could be that you didn't get in spots as marginal as in ep3. I mean, I didn't see you steal with 24s in SB or raise UTG with J9o. Hell, you even mucked Q9o in this one! (You did raise QTo though, but then again, why not. I raise QTs there, so it's not something that shocks me, like seeing J9o. Of course I know it depends on the table, but it's not something that would occur to me after sitting at a table for 30minutes: hey J9o UTG, let's raise it! I mindlessly muck it. And I sortta understand now that mucking J9o mindlessly is not good poker.).

I hear you saying you crushed these stakes, which is nice. I wonder, what do you think is an achievable WR at 2/4 or 3/6 for a player like you, and what would it be for a less aggro player, say a 26/18/2.5. (If this can be answered at all).

Thanks for a good vid!

Peesocake

Posted May 14, 2008 6:43pm

CliffNotes
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Chuck: are you a wise guy?

Posted May 20, 2008 9:45am

danzasmack
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I have a question. At 14 min mark BB called a raise by UTG + 1 and flop came J32. And you commented that BB should c/r with A2o.

I can understand c/r A2o here, as you should be ahead and often have villain reversed dominated. But would you do it with K2 or weaker 2s?



We'd fold them all preflop but I think if you do defend a hand with a 2 in it you should be c/r'ing this flop and betting for value the whole way.

Posted May 20, 2008 11:49am

danzasmack
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danzasmack,
in this video you commented that many players do ok at $0.50/1 and $1/2 6 max but can't beat $2/4. It so happens I am one of those players. What do you think is the reason for this, is the average player at $2/4 that much better than the average player at $1/2, or are there other reasons?



You see MUCH more aggression when you move up to 2/4. More unsuccessful 3/6 players, the rake is brutal.

However, a big thing - and this addresses the winrate question too - is table selection.

I really feel like people are very lazy w/table selection in general. In my series the Price Is Right, all i had to do was open up pokerstars and I was put in a great game. In this series I play in some awful games! I'd say the 3/6 games I played in were both worse than the 10/20 game I played in m vid w/Rob!

Now, of course, you're not going to be able to find unbelievable games all the time but I do think a lot of regs will sit in these rake dungeons and steal/resteal for hours.

Also, I think once you get to 2/4 you have a lot more players playing poker seriously. You have DC members. You have people with 1k BB bankrolls grinding out pocket money in rakeback. This of course leads to occasionally over-aggro games.

Now, I'm not sure exactly what winrate would be achievable but I think with good game selection you could beat these games for 2+ BB/100 with solid poker. If you can read hands well and pick on the right opponents I think that close to 3 is a dangerous thought but achievable.

The thing about 2/4 is that if you actually are beating it for a decent sample @ a good winrate, well, you're already playing 3/6!

Posted May 20, 2008 11:55am

danzasmack
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I didn't see you steal with 24s in SB or raise UTG with J9o. Hell, you even mucked Q9o in this one! (You did raise QTo though, but then again, why not. I raise QTs there, so it's not something that shocks me, like seeing J9o. Of course I know it depends on the table, but it's not something that would occur to me after sitting at a table for 30minutes: hey J9o UTG, let's raise it! I mindlessly muck it. And I sortta understand now that mucking J9o mindlessly is not good poker.).



You touched on it but I can't stress enough how important it is in poker to not look @ the action but rather the circumstances surrounding the action. I could easily describe game scenarios where folding 24s in the SB is STRICTlY -EV, same with raising j9o. I mean, hypothetically a game exists where not raising every hand in every position is strictly -EV.

@ 2/4, if the BB is only defending 50% of hands, you have to raise 100%. You break even putting in $3 to win $3. Then you have whatever sliver of equity that you have. In that scenario, folding is flat out wrong.

Also, the big thing is developing an image. Once someone sees you open 24s once, they see it in your hand for the rest of the session.

Now, you're wondering why I take these actions 30 minutes into a session.

Well first off, of course, I'm not scared to make some mistakes in a vid that put me in a tricky spot. But 2nd, and I stress this a TON in my vids, is that you really can get a great feel for what a player is going to do with XY when you see how he plays YZ. It just comes with experience. A guy who c/r's a flush draw but just c/c's top pair? Think of how that mind works. Then of course you take it to the next level and blah blah blah.

All those times I talk about the free info from watching a guy c/c, c/c, c/f a board like A5722. That tells you SO MUCH!

Posted May 20, 2008 12:02pm

konrad
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Hey

I got a question about two hands you played in the SB versus a pretty tight UTG raising Tag (ading 003).

I don't get the point why you are donking here. Maybe you can explain that a little more detailed.

63:04 99 in SB vs UTG Cap Donk/Calldown on a Q37 rainbow board

66:05 AJ in SB vs UTG Cap Donk/Calldown on a 24A board

Thank you!

Posted Jul 22, 2008 1:00pm