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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by threads13 (Micro/Small Stakes)

Time Link to 00:17:40

Thoughts on raising to $7.50 or something to isolate the fish on T1?

Time Link to 00:17:51

I disagree. You have 2500 hands on the guy, you don't have enough information on barreling tendencies that you can make decisions on whether 66 has SD value on a variety of boards? Flatting with mid to small pockets is something I've been working on lately and have had some success with.

Time Link to 00:23:03

One thing you can do is put color ranges into your stats. For example, a green (both in player notes and in my stats) denotes someone likely to call, so something like 0-50% fold to 3bets show up as green, 51-65 will show up as red, 65-75 show up as orange, and 75+ show up as yellow.

Threads13,

Everything was making a lot of sense to me in this video until the hand at 53:00 on table 3. We call a 3x open in position BvB with T8o. First of all, is this really the bottom of our range? Would you ever be calling with 46o here? Anyway, it's the river play that I'd really be skeptical of trying myself. I understand that this is the type of situation that too many players check back without considering the bluff, but can't we just turn our weaker hands into bluffs? Couldn't you have lots of 4x hands here? What about just a lone king or jack of spades? Why should we be expecting to fold out Ax here? Doesn't his Ax prefer inducing to c/f-ing? Don't we justify his play by bluffing with hands as strong as ours?

Thoughts on raising to $7.50 or something to isolate the fish on T1?

Not a big fan. I'll probably put myself in an uncomfortable spot if he shoves and he probably has a fairly strong UTG range.

I disagree. You have 2500 hands on the guy, you don't have enough information on barreling tendencies that you can make decisions on whether 66 has SD value on a variety of boards? Flatting with mid to small pockets is something I've been working on lately and have had some success with.

I don't think this one is particularly close OOP vs a good player. How good do you really think I am? 66 doesn't have good equity on most flops that he will bet. Very often there are going to be two overs to our hand and our equity vs his c-betting range won't be that great. Sure, he's 3-betting a decent amount of hands, but its not like he has a 30% range when he 3-bets. Maybe 15%? There aren't that many flops we can profitably XC. Mostly we just donate our call of the 3bet. We don't hit a set often enough to compensate for those losses. Showdown equity doesn't count for much if you can't ever profitably get to showdown.

Just because I have 2500 hands on him doesn't mean I have a good idea on his 3betting range and how he constructs his barreling ranges in 3b pots. Not a lot of hands will fit in this category. I'm also unsure how many of his notes I have because I'm playing on a machine that doesn't have all of my notes.

Playing OOP is just way too much to overcome when I'm going to have a pair sixes most of the time postflop. I wouldn't mind flatting IP with this hand, but I think it's -EV OOP.

Threads13,

Everything was making a lot of sense to me in this video until the hand at 53:00 on table 3. We call a 3x open in position BvB with T8o. First of all, is this really the bottom of our range? Would you ever be calling with 46o here? Anyway, it's the river play that I'd really be skeptical of trying myself. I understand that this is the type of situation that too many players check back without considering the bluff, but can't we just turn our weaker hands into bluffs? Couldn't you have lots of 4x hands here? What about just a lone king or jack of spades? Why should we be expecting to fold out Ax here? Doesn't his Ax prefer inducing to c/f-ing? Don't we justify his play by bluffing with hands as strong as ours?

He's opening a lot of hands BvB so it becomes pretty important to make sure he doesn't run me over and turn a profit with opening ATC. If I'm not flatting enough weak hands then he just runs me over. If I'm just 3-betting all of these hands then I'm 3b/folding too much and he just runs me over with 4bets (a pretty obvious and easy adjustment for people to make in this scenario when they get 3b a lot). It's going to be profitable to flat weak hands IP because he will hve a wide range too. My position will give me the ability to turn a profit with these hands.

I think this is a pretty interesting hand

I think I bet 4x on the flop. SI protect my hand, and I can think about turning my hand into a bluff on the turn. I also likely bet a lot of hands that have a some sort of value. So the Tx kind of is the bottom of my range for flat the flop and call the turn.

The real question that we have to ask throught this hand is "what is my perceived range?" I think he's a good player so we have to really make sure that we look at our hand through his eyes.

When I check back the flop my perceived range actually has a decent amount of showdown value hands in it where I'm trying to induce. He probably expects me to bet my air a high % of the time.

Then, when I call the turn my perceived range has even less air. I wouldn't check back the flop and then call the turn with air. Sure, I could have the Ks, but how do I have Kxo? There aren't very many Kxo that doesn't bet the flop. KJo and K9o often bet. How much lower do I go? And do I just bet the flop with the Ks7x? It's reasonable to think that. I think my turn perceived range has some Ax, Qx, and maybe Tx. He could think that I check back the flop with Ax to just get it to showdown. There aren't actually a lot of draws. Some, but not a ton.

Then he checks the river. I think he doesn't have a super wide xc'ing range here if my perceived range has mostly pairs and then I'm betting. For him to xc Ax he has to think that I'm turning something into a bluff. Not a lot of players do that at these stakes and I don't think he's ever seen me do it, so I thought he would fold an Ax. This is pretty near the bottom of my range so it's the type of hand I want to bluff with. Thus I think my betting range looks reasonably strong simply because it's hard for me to have a bluff unless I'm doing something like this. He called pretty quickly so I'm not sure how much he was thinking about my range there. He might have just been attached to the fact that its BvB and he has TP. And the boards wet. That means no folding. He decided I just have a lot of draws, but I really don't think I do. I do think I'd v-bet any Ax there, as well.

First off let me start by saying I thought CFC1 was an awesome series and it has improved my thought process as a poker player a ton, easily one of the better FR series I have seen over the years. So I'm super excited about CFC2.

Just wanted to say I really appreciate the quality/amount of videos you are putting up here lately, thx

First off let me start by saying I thought CFC1 was an awesome series and it has improved my thought process as a poker player a ton, easily one of the better FR series I have seen over the years. So I'm super excited about CFC2.

Just wanted to say I really appreciate the quality/amount of videos you are putting up here lately, thx

Thank you. I'm glad to hear that my videos are helping your game.

Threads13,

53:00 table 3
"For him to xc Ax he has to think that I'm turning something into a bluff."

Thanks for the detailed response. If you had had Qx here like you said was possible, wouldn't you have value bet the river? Then by check-calling the river, doesn't he beat your Qx value range and not just your bluffs?

Threads13,

53:00 table 3
"For him to xc Ax he has to think that I'm turning something into a bluff."

Thanks for the detailed response. If you had had Qx here like you said was possible, wouldn't you have value bet the river? Then by check-calling the river, doesn't he beat your Qx value range and not just your bluffs?

Qx I'd likely check back. If he's folding Ax it seems a little thin to v-bet the Q. I'd vbet Ax, bluff Tx. Check back Qx.

Time Link to 00:52:33

Solid as always! Great job.
Is there a delayed cb statistic in holdem manager 1 or its only in PT4?

Solid as always! Great job.
Is there a delayed cb statistic in holdem manager 1 or its only in PT4?

It's a custom stat I created (with a little help ) in PT4.

28:00 Table 1--Why wouldn't you 4b all-in with AQs? Isn't it hard to play when you just call a 4bet OOP?
Also post-flop, if it was HU vs the button, would you consider check-raising the flop to collect dead equity?

28:00 Table 1--Why wouldn't you 4b all-in with AQs? Isn't it hard to play when you just call a 4bet OOP?
Also post-flop, if it was HU vs the button, would you consider check-raising the flop to collect dead equity?

With the depth of the stacks I think its massively -EV to 4b/call AQs.

XR'ing the flop is a reasonable play if it were HU. Donking the flop is a reasonable play 3-way.