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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by sthief09 (Mid Stakes)

Time Link to 00:13:12

How are going to react to the guy flatting then 4betting in the future? If we think he is nutty here, then does that take away the power of his 3bets in the future? I would imagine what he is trying to accomplish here is pretty hard to balance. Furthermore, do his medium strength hands goes up in value after we cap our range by flatting the 3bet? It's pretty unlikely we are flatting AA/KK, maybe QQ here, so if he had JJ, and thought the initial 3bettor was squeeze heavy, then would his play make sense then too?

How are going to react to the guy flatting then 4betting in the future? If we think he is nutty here, then does that take away the power of his 3bets in the future? I would imagine what he is trying to accomplish here is pretty hard to balance. Furthermore, do his medium strength hands goes up in value after we cap our range by flatting the 3bet? It's pretty unlikely we are flatting AA/KK, maybe QQ here, so if he had JJ, and thought the initial 3bettor was squeeze heavy, then would his play make sense then too?

The positions are critical here. When someone flats KK BTN vs. CO, that is very noteworthy. if we weight premiums downward from someone's 3-bet range even slightly, that increases our equity tremendously. We should continue more frequently.

On the other hand 9-handed UTG vs. MP is a spot where it can be borderline standard to flat something like QQ. it's not at all surprising to see KK here, especially with a fishy SB. If we were to take a note on the 4-bettor in this hand, I'm not sure it would be at all helpful in the future since he didn't really do anything out of the ordinary. I may just note he flatted KK vs. EP in FR.

the logic for flatting is pretty straightforward: it's a spot where 3-bet bluffing too frequently is burning money. a small perceived bluffing range means you should tighten your value range as well.

regarding hero flatting:
1. once the bad SB 3-bets, it's a protected pot. the MP guy can't bluff anymore. he may be able to 4-bet down to ~TT if he thinks hero can't have AA/KK but bluffing goes out the window.
2. I don't think hero has to 4-bet AA/KK there so I wouldn't say his range is capped. certain tendencies of SB may make it best to flat. if we felt he was a light 3-bettor but would fold his Q9s hands to a 4-bet, I'd prefer flatting. we're getting into specifics but the bottom line is I think MP can't eliminate AA/KK from hero's range.

Time Link to 00:08:39

Against a tight reg I actually just fold AKo to a squeeze in these spots. However, the guy who squeezed seems like a pretty aggressive fish, playing 34/18/6% 3bet over 200+ hands. Being 100 BB effective I would 4bet stack vs him. If the reg in LP back jammed over my 4bet, I'd have to look at the pot odds exactly but prob can't fold.

I def think the fish is squeeze folding enough, or flatting the 4bet and playing bad, or stacking off AQ or something light once in a while that 4betting beats calling. when you call and reg calls, you're sandwiched without the initative between two pretty strong ranges that could be nutty, and you have AKo in a humongous pot which won't flop good nearly often enough. You also face being backraised by the reg who as sthief stated could def be flatting you with pretty strong and isnt likely to ever be backraising for reasons other than value.

as far as the 3bet %'s in full ring - 6% is what I'd call pretty aggro. there are a lot of 'standard' regs who are like 14/12 with a 3% 3bet. 17/15 with a 5-7% 3bet is more in the slightly Lag reg range (although you do get wierd 17/12 2% 3bet type regs too)


btw - who was featured in the vid? if you wanna pm me your sn i probably play with you in those 200 fr games a decent amount

Against a tight reg I actually just fold AKo to a squeeze in these spots. However, the guy who squeezed seems like a pretty aggressive fish, playing 34/18/6% 3bet over 200+ hands. Being 100 BB effective I would 4bet stack vs him. If the reg in LP back jammed over my 4bet, I'd have to look at the pot odds exactly but prob can't fold.

I def think the fish is squeeze folding enough, or flatting the 4bet and playing bad, or stacking off AQ or something light once in a while that 4betting beats calling. when you call and reg calls, you're sandwiched without the initative between two pretty strong ranges that could be nutty, and you have AKo in a humongous pot which won't flop good nearly often enough. You also face being backraised by the reg who as sthief stated could def be flatting you with pretty strong and isnt likely to ever be backraising for reasons other than value.

as far as the 3bet %'s in full ring - 6% is what I'd call pretty aggro. there are a lot of 'standard' regs who are like 14/12 with a 3% 3bet. 17/15 with a 5-7% 3bet is more in the slightly Lag reg range (although you do get wierd 17/12 2% 3bet type regs too)


btw - who was featured in the vid? if you wanna pm me your sn i probably play with you in those 200 fr games a decent amount

yeah so we generally agree here. glad to know my instincts are correct FR because it's still relatively new to me. I find it to be very intuitive though coming from a 6-max background.

I'll shoot him a msg and see if he wants to PM you his sn.

Time Link to 00:36:20

A8cc on T653ccc

I'd be pretty tempted to just flat the turn bet but thinking about it more, as said in the vid, clubs are most likely bad for us and board pairs are bad so that's around 40% of the deck. So I guess it's just a jam unless villain really really loves to barrel off and especially river.

What are we doing on the flop/turn if we had 98cc? Villain raised kinda big on the flop and we're not expecting him to have that many bluffs.

What if the turn is 3h and villain bets this size, what do we do w/ A8cc, 98cc, 55, AhAs?

A8cc on T653ccc

I'd be pretty tempted to just flat the turn bet but thinking about it more, as said in the vid, clubs are most likely bad for us and board pairs are bad so that's around 40% of the deck. So I guess it's just a jam unless villain really really loves to barrel off and especially river.

What are we doing on the flop/turn if we had 98cc? Villain raised kinda big on the flop and we're not expecting him to have that many bluffs.

What if the turn is 3h and villain bets this size, what do we do w/ A8cc, 98cc, 55, AhAs?

raising vs. calling hinges entirely on villain's bluffing frequency. if villain is never bluffing, and presumably seldom folding to the raise, then it makes sense to raise the nuts. if we felt his bluff frequency was high, then we can call.

if we call, the effective stack is roughly 50% of the pot. I think we should just go all-in with any flush. with closer to a pot sized bet behind, I would prefer to call. it gives villain more room to bluff the river, and with more money behind, his range for c/r and bet/call will presumably be tighter. the tighter his bet/call range, the worst shape 98cc is in.

so turn is a blank. villain bets this same size. we're getting 2.5-1.

A8cc- this hand beats most of his semi-bluffs, A might be good, and we have implied odds, so I would call this hand.
naked flush draw- I would fold this one. not getting a good price and since I don't think he's bluffing very often, we don't have much capability to steal the pot.
98cc (gutter+FD)- implied odds are worse than Axcc because he very well might have bigger flushes. I think we're priced out in this spot. if he had some more bluffs in his range and we were a bit deeper, I could see shipping the turn, just as I would with my strong hands.
red AA - I wonder if he can have KK or QQ here. I think QQ is a fold here since it's UTG/BB. KK is probably a fold. I would probably go with AA here. calling sounds better than raising to me since AA is more of a bluff catcher.
bottom set - I will usually call flop/push turn, but I think 555 is essentially a bluff catcher at this point since it's UTG/BB.

the FR UTG/BB dynamic is what makes ranges so tight here so I think it generally calls for a more solid, straightforward approach.