Episode One

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Episode One

In the first of the full ring NL series, DJ Sensei helps you learn the basics of full ring play through a basic but informative presentation.

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This Series: To Nit or not to Nit

DJ Sensei teaches you everything you need to know about full ring play in a 4 episode mini-series. Follow Dan from micro stakes all the way up through 2000NL.

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Comments for Episode One

oopsipooped
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Thanks you. More full ring please :)

Posted Mar 3, 2008 4:23pm

Millman123
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Great first episode!

-Millman

Posted Mar 3, 2008 4:59pm

gilarrr
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Agreed, looking forward to more. I'll throw a vote in for a post of your HUD file on FTP. Thanks!!

g

Posted Mar 3, 2008 9:24pm

dildog
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... i thought monday was krantz's series?...

Posted Mar 3, 2008 11:26pm

Entity
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... i thought monday was krantz's series?...



No, the schedule will be posted on the main page later today (just updating the flash files for that right now) but WiltOnTilt and KRANTZ's series will air on Fridays alongside Josh's SSNL series. Friday through Sunday is gonna be pretty amazing for all of you NL junkies out there for sure. :)

Rob

Posted Mar 3, 2008 11:38pm

dildog
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... i thought monday was krantz's series?...

No, the schedule will be posted on the main page later today (just updating the flash files for that right now) but WiltOnTilt and KRANTZ's series will air on Fridays alongside Josh's SSNL series. Friday through Sunday is gonna be pretty amazing for all of you NL junkies out there for sure. :)

Rob



so, there won't be any jay krantz heads up video series?

p.s. when i typed in jay krantz i had a feeling it was de ja vu... like it already happened in a dream or something... weird...

Posted Mar 4, 2008 2:23am

Entity
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... i thought monday was krantz's series?...

No, the schedule will be posted on the main page later today (just updating the flash files for that right now) but WiltOnTilt and KRANTZ's series will air on Fridays alongside Josh's SSNL series. Friday through Sunday is gonna be pretty amazing for all of you NL junkies out there for sure. :)

Rob

so, there won't be any jay krantz heads up video series?

p.s. when i typed in jay krantz i had a feeling it was de ja vu... like it already happened in a dream or something... weird...



Jay (KRANTZ) and WiltOnTilt are doing their series "pr1nnyraiding" which will be released on Fridays. So yes, there is a series, and yes, it's gonna rock. :)

Rob

Posted Mar 4, 2008 2:41am

DJ Sensei
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Agreed, looking forward to more. I'll throw a vote in for a post of your HUD file on FTP. Thanks!!

g



Sure thing, I´ll have it up on saturday or sunday (when i get back home) hopefully.

Posted Mar 4, 2008 3:00am

dildog
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... i thought monday was krantz's series?...

No, the schedule will be posted on the main page later today (just updating the flash files for that right now) but WiltOnTilt and KRANTZ's series will air on Fridays alongside Josh's SSNL series. Friday through Sunday is gonna be pretty amazing for all of you NL junkies out there for sure. :)

Rob

so, there won't be any jay krantz heads up video series?

p.s. when i typed in jay krantz i had a feeling it was de ja vu... like it already happened in a dream or something... weird...

Jay (KRANTZ) and WiltOnTilt are doing their series "pr1nnyraiding" which will be released on Fridays. So yes, there is a series, and yes, it's gonna rock. :)

Rob



alriiiight!!! krantz explain's his thought process pretty well.. and his outlook in poker and life in general makes his videos the best imo... even better than taylor caby and CTS...

Posted Mar 4, 2008 3:05am

Hypnotic
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DC videos are better than CR videos by imo.

Plus membership is a ton cheaper.

Best value ever.

Posted Mar 4, 2008 4:10am

kondor101
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Not to mention they have no DRM, which means I can watch them even on a Linux OS.

Which brings me back on topic, one of the nice things about playing full ring is that those of us without a HUD have plenty of time to make notes on others. I think everyone who plays single table full ring should be making lots of them, if only to stop you losing patience. When making notes you actually find your paying more attention to what other players are doing, the amount of times I have saved a few dollars just because I have been paying attention must amount to $6.23 by now.

But seriously, its all about making decisions and when your paying more attention those decisions get a bit easier, its easier to pay attention in a full ring as long as you give yourself something to do in the long haul between hands.

Posted Mar 4, 2008 11:54am

DJ Sensei
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props to you if you can single-table a fullring game without gouging your eyes out :)

excellent point about notes, though. many times in a fullring setting, just about every regular will have similar stats show up in the HUD, so having specific reads on how each one plays sets/draws/whatever can help a lot.

Posted Mar 4, 2008 1:45pm

mrwooster
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Am watching this on my iPhone now.... the power point vids are really good to watch on iPods etc... really good idea.

Will post comments later :)

Posted Mar 4, 2008 2:01pm

BrentonMac
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Hey DJ,

Do you use any other Tools for Table selection? Or do you just scan the lobby and jump on? If you use something like Spade Eye - what type of players are you looking for?

BMac

Posted Mar 4, 2008 8:38pm

mrwooster
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Finished watching this. Great stuff, can't wait for 50NL next week.

Posted Mar 5, 2008 2:01am

DJ Sensei
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Hey DJ,

Do you use any other Tools for Table selection? Or do you just scan the lobby and jump on? If you use something like Spade Eye - what type of players are you looking for?

BMac



Well, it depends on the game. For fullring games, I´m usually playing 10/20 or 25/50 where there aren´t many games running, so I´ll probably play any table where I can get a seat (and then quit if I find that there aren´t any fish there). I don´t use spade eye or similar products, but I think they could be pretty valuable, particularly in mid-stakes games where the stakes are enough to justify the cost and game selection becomes more important.

As far as game selection goes, the first (and pretty much only) thing I´m looking for is fish. Loose passive ones, or crazy maniac ones, either is cool with me. No fish = no game.

Posted Mar 5, 2008 3:48am

random_99
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DJ Sensei

I really want to get my mum a cardigan for her birthday. I am on a limited budget.

Should I knit or not knit?

Posted Mar 5, 2008 7:53pm

DJ Sensei
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DJ Sensei

I really want to get my mum a cardigan for her birthday. I am on a limited budget.

Should I knit or not knit?



1) watch DC videos
2) play online poker
3) use winnings to buy mom´s cardigan
4) use free time not spent knitting cardigan to win more money, or build her a cake or something
5) hugs

Posted Mar 5, 2008 9:12pm

kondor101
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As far as game selection goes, the first (and pretty much only) thing I´m looking for is fish. Loose passive ones, or crazy maniac ones, either is cool with me. No fish = no game.



One thing that I am learning as someone at beginner level, fish are a lot easier to play against than maniacs. I find that in my quest to find more fish I occasionally bump into a maniac, when I do either my stack is going to rise or disappear.

I am sure if I was a much better player I could take on the maniacs easier, but for now I find the % a more important figure than the $ as the one might mean there is a table full of maniacs.

Posted Mar 6, 2008 3:43am

Ulkis
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Nice start for hopefully a very nice series. However, sometimes I thought it started too much from the beginning but on the other hand it is a primer and especially the ABC preflop hand range was very useful. It will be interesting to follow in the later episodes how ABC will be tweaked.

Anyways, I hope to make the most of this series, and today started to play my usual 50NL 4-tabling with Dan's ABC hands, and aim to tweak my hands/play/game along with the series. Hopefully this series will give me a boost to move up to 100NL, or at least help with it.

ABC preflop hand range...following it to the letter, so far 851 hands and am running 13.04/8.7. Attempt to steal blinds 26.17%, which has followed naturally just from following the hand chart.

Can't wait till next Monday, thanks Dan.

Posted Mar 6, 2008 1:43pm

random_99
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DJ Sensei

I really want to get my mum a cardigan for her birthday. I am on a limited budget.

Should I knit or not knit?

1) watch DC videos
2) play online poker
3) use winnings to buy mom´s cardigan
4) use free time not spent knitting cardigan to win more money, or build her a cake or something
5) hugs



LOL. This series is one of the main reasons why I am going to renew my subscription. It would be cool to see more full ring NL on the site.

Posted Mar 6, 2008 8:32pm

GSWarrior
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DJ Sensei,

Great video. In it, you mentioned you would post your HUD layout. Do you know where I can find that in the forums? Thanks

Posted Mar 7, 2008 3:48am

DJ Sensei
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the HUD is not yet up in the forums, but thats because i´m far away from my home computer. however, i´ll be back there on saturday, and will post it then or shortly thereafter.

Posted Mar 7, 2008 7:51am

RedJoker
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I play 6max almost exclusively but felt like watching something different for a change. I was surprised you said you wanted to be on the left of the good players. When I play I always sit to the left of the fish, I'll be playing the majority of my hands against the fish and I'd prefer to play the majority of my hands in position.

You're not going to be playing as many hands against the good (and tight) players and probably won't be making a whole lot off them whether you have position or not. I agree that having position on full stacks is better though.

Posted Mar 7, 2008 8:32pm

Zangetsu
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I was surprised you said you wanted to be on the left of the good players. When I play I always sit to the left of the fish, I'll be playing the majority of my hands against the fish and I'd prefer to play the majority of my hands in position.

You're not going to be playing as many hands against the good (and tight) players and probably won't be making a whole lot off them whether you have position or not. I agree that having position on full stacks is better though.



You beat me to this comment, but I would like to join you in expressing my interest in hearing an elaboration on this topic.

If I use Lobby Edge for table selection, I generally look for people with a history of losing money, and I've tried to sit to the left of the player with the highest loss/hand rate(provided that he still has a stack of decent size).

Is this a mistake? Should I be sitting to the left of the person with the highest win/hand rate?

Posted Mar 8, 2008 5:44am

jpinkc
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New to deuces cracked and really am impressed with what I've seen here.

This series in particular is what drove me to join. I've always felt full ring is much more profitable in that the number one mistake fishy opponents make is to play too many marginal hands from early position. Full ring gives them 4 times the opportunity to make that mistake.

Please keep the FR info coming!

Posted Mar 8, 2008 6:52pm

DJ Sensei
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I was surprised you said you wanted to be on the left of the good players. When I play I always sit to the left of the fish, I'll be playing the majority of my hands against the fish and I'd prefer to play the majority of my hands in position.

You're not going to be playing as many hands against the good (and tight) players and probably won't be making a whole lot off them whether you have position or not. I agree that having position on full stacks is better though.

You beat me to this comment, but I would like to join you in expressing my interest in hearing an elaboration on this topic.

If I use Lobby Edge for table selection, I generally look for people with a history of losing money, and I've tried to sit to the left of the player with the highest loss/hand rate(provided that he still has a stack of decent size).

Is this a mistake? Should I be sitting to the left of the person with the highest win/hand rate?



Seat selection is certainly a topic worth discussing, and I think reasonable arguments can be made for both sides.

If all of your opponents are either fish or mediocre nits, then you should sit to the left of the biggest fish, or to the left of as many fish as possible. The nits won't give you much trouble if they have position on you, so you can focus on having position on the fish as often as possible.

However, if there are some good loose-aggressive players at the table (and chances are you won't encounter good loose aggressive players in FR games until mid-high stakes), I'd prefer to have the LAG's on my right to avoid headaches. LAGs know how to exploit their positional advantage much better than nits do.

Because you'll be playing a pretty tight game and mostly getting into it with strong hands, position against fish doesn't matter quite as much. It certainly is nice to have it, but the difference between being IP and being OOP is much more significant when you're considering it relative to a strong, aggressive player.


That being said, I almost always look to have the fish on my right, because the situations where I would choose otherwise are pretty rare.

Posted Mar 8, 2008 9:00pm

mim46922
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4) use free time not spent knitting cardigan to win more money, or build her a cake or something



"build a cake" LOL!

Anyway, the question I have is "What 5/10 rule for Pocket Pairs?" :)

Thanks!

Posted Mar 14, 2008 10:17pm

DJ Sensei
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the 5/10 rule is a basic guideline that applies to situations when you're facing a preflop raise and have a small or medium pocket pair and want to know if you have the proper implied odds to call the raise. if the size of the raise is less than 5% of remaining effective stacks, then you should almost always call, and if its greater than 10% of remaining effective stacks, you should probably fold. if its somewhere in the middle, then you can make a decision based on other factors.

don't treat the 5/10 rule as law though, it should just be a starting point for understanding implied odds and how to apply them preflop in certain situations.

Posted Mar 15, 2008 10:27pm

Ulkis
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On 6th March I wrote:

...today started to play my usual 50NL 4-tabling with Dan's ABC hands, and aim to tweak my hands/play/game along with the series. Hopefully this series will give me a boost to move up to 100NL, or at least help with it.

ABC preflop hand range...following it to the letter, so far 851 hands and am running 13.04/8.7. Attempt to steal blinds 26.17%, which has followed naturally just from following the hand chart.
...



After 12,499 hands the figures are 11.85/6.97, attempt to steal 20.4. So ABC is nitty for sure. Time to take the next step - how do I open up preflop and in which order?

Posted Mar 18, 2008 6:19pm

eastern motors
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DJ Sensie,

I am going to Vegas on Thursday and there will much 1/2 played. Do you have an recommendations for beating a table of loose passive fish? See a lot of flops and value town them? Raise from position and c-bet boards that they probably miss?

Thanks,
Easern Motors

Posted Mar 18, 2008 7:05pm

Ulkis
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Eastern Motors, please don't hi-jack threads, I can't really see your post relating to Nit series episode 1. Please check out the most relevant forum/thread and post there instead. Thanks.

Posted Mar 19, 2008 9:44am

DJ Sensei
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Ulkis: to open up your fullring game, you should most certainly start with the button and cutoff, then work your way back from there slowly. but don't worry too much about nitty stats as long as you're winning a decent amount consistently.

eastern motors: tight aggressive is the way to beat those kind of players, but feel free to see flops in position with more speculative hands when given the opportunity. but be sure to skew your ranges of such hands more towards suited connectors, suited aces, and things like that that can make the nuts somewhat often, more than hands like AXo or KX or offsuit connectors.

Posted Mar 19, 2008 10:48am

adelaidecrows02
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Hi, I am the guy everyone wants to sit to the left of :0).

This is the first video I have ever watched, and I am so thankful that I spend the $$'s, so thanks for these, cant wait to see the rest.

Was really good to see you briefly talk about HUD's as I have just purchased HM - I havent watched the rest of your series yet, but I hope that you refer to the HUD more often and it's benefits, as I would like to have heard how VPIP and PFR should be used to your advantage - if you dont in the later video's could you please please talk about this elsewhere.

Now for the donk question - when you talk about ranges in MP you talk about limping with QJs-54s, and then in LP you discuss raising with Sc's T9-54. Why stop at 54s, and why not 43/32s etc? Apologies in advance for the simplicity of the question but I am here to learn....

I have other questions, but I will check the rest of the series in case I am wasting your time.

Thanks again mate, and I look forward to more videos from you.

Posted Mar 29, 2008 2:33am

DJ Sensei
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As far as the suited connectors go, I generally say to stop at 54s because the ones below it have fewer straight possibilities and thus less value. 43s is usually alright, especially in the later positions, but 32s isn't really all that good.

Posted Mar 29, 2008 7:40pm

c7h7e
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very good video. Can anyone direct me to the link or video were it introduces 6max PL/NL Holdem.

I've played much FR but I would like to get started with 6max, is there a series like this one for shorthanded action.

Thank You

Posted Apr 4, 2008 4:47pm

DJ Sensei
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There are several series for 6max NLHE which you should find quite appealing:

Memoirs of a Limidonk
Moving on up
Unconventional Wisdom
and most of the Ghost and Freestylin' episodes too.

Posted Apr 4, 2008 6:22pm

negtv capability
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I'm new to DC, have just recently established myself as a winning player at the low limits of full ring NL50 and PLHE50 and rated the video a 5.
I'm wondering if I may have identified a couple leaks in my game in watching this video.
#1 Should I be calling raises with AQ from MP and AJ, KQ from LP with regularity? Currently I'm only making these calls vs. villains with high to very high PFR %'s, I think mainly because I fear top pair being counterfeited by AK or AQ. Is this marginal or a definite leak?
#2 I think I may be missplaying my SB badly when it's folded around, because I'm completing with all of my average to below average hands (minus 23) vs. just about anyone who's shown that they will defend their BB. I think this is because of 3:1 odds, but being that I'm lacking the button that heads up would provide, I shouldn't be so ready to play if I don't have a definite advantage postflop. How bad is completing with T4u for example vs. say a near equal opponent in the BB on a regular basis?

Posted Apr 19, 2008 10:56am

DJ Sensei
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Well the higher their pfr%, the smaller the part of their range that dominates you is (and the larger the part that you actually dominate!) so hands like AQ, AJ, and KQ are actually fairly strong. Of course most players will have higher pfrs from later positions, so take that into account. Some HUD's will even break down their percentages by position too, so you can see pretty clearly how much their range expands in later positions.

When it folds to you in the SB I'd highly recommend either raising or folding. Limping lets your opponent see a free flop with any 2, and when he has position on you thats not something you should be so happy about. The tighter he is, the more you should be raising, the looser he is the more you should be folding.

Posted Apr 19, 2008 10:06pm

ken aces
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great vid and i love that i can watch it on the iphone

i switched to more FR from 6 max the past 2 weeks and i hate open limping. i feel like open limping 22-99 from EP and 22-77 + SCs from MP is so weak. I am playing 50NL right now and hope to move up to 100NL soon. it seems like there are so many weak tight players who fold their blinds or fold to CB so much that it might be better to raise rather than open limp especially from MP. what do you think - thanks

Posted May 30, 2008 7:25pm

DJ Sensei
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Against weaktight players, you can certainly raise little pairs and c-bet them profitably, but you'll find fewer and fewer of those as you rise in stakes. The usual problem with those little pairs is that if you're oop against somebody who isn't weaktight, its very difficult to make profitable postflop decisions, especially if you've got the initiative and feel obligated to fire at the pot a time or two (or three!). I think they play fine after limping, too, in the right spots, and you don't just have to limp-call and then give up if you miss your set. I think in episode 4 I show a hand where I limp a little pair from EP and then reraise it after a raise and a call or two.

Posted May 30, 2008 8:25pm

zsf001
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I just joined DC and happened to watch this awesome video. Where can I get the HUD that was used in this video?

Please excuse my ignorance as I am new to online poker, but what is VPIP and PFR and what should we be looking for in these stats.

Posted Jul 7, 2008 4:16pm

DJ Sensei
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I just joined DC and happened to watch this awesome video. Where can I get the HUD that was used in this video?

Please excuse my ignorance as I am new to online poker, but what is VPIP and PFR and what should we be looking for in these stats.



you can find the HUD layouts here. The HUD itself is available at www.pokerace.com

VPIP stands for voluntarily put money in pot, which basically is the percentage of hands you choose to play. Most fish have a high VPIP because they play too many hands. In a fullring game, most solid players will have VPIP's between 12 and 20.

PFR stands for preflop raise, which is simply the % of hands you raise preflop. Fish tend to have either very low (loose passive) or very high (maniac) PFRs. Yours should neither be too low nor too high, probably about 2/3-3/4 the size of your VPIP.

Posted Jul 7, 2008 8:38pm

goldseraph
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Excellent primer, Sensei! Enjoyed it.

Posted Jul 13, 2008 11:42am

020Sicario020
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Multi universa stuff, cool :)

Posted Jul 28, 2008 8:57am

Nebulosity
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Very good primer on FR and the tight play.

Posted Sep 12, 2008 4:05pm

Iestyn500
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Cheers dj that has really helped my bank roll, i think this is the stepping stone i needed to increase my bank roll, as in the last three days i have been making a profit and my variance is very low. I have a couple of questions which may help me even more, in late positon you say if someone raises you should be cautious of roi hand like aj, what other hands should i be cautious about as well.

The other question is that what levels do the players start to become good readers of the game and you need to be more creative in your game playing.

thanks again
DJ
iestyn

Posted Sep 12, 2008 5:30pm

DJ Sensei
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Cheers dj that has really helped my bank roll, i think this is the stepping stone i needed to increase my bank roll, as in the last three days i have been making a profit and my variance is very low. I have a couple of questions which may help me even more, in late positon you say if someone raises you should be cautious of roi hand like aj, what other hands should i be cautious about as well.

The other question is that what levels do the players start to become good readers of the game and you need to be more creative in your game playing.

thanks again
DJ
iestyn



The hands you should be most cautious with are ones involving big cards with weak kickers. AJ, AT, any lower AX of course, KJ, KT, QJ, JT, etc. If you're going to play hands like that facing a raise from a player with a tight range, your hand should at least be suited, and you should be wary of playing a big pot postflop if you make top pair. But 2 pair or trips with your lower card or a straight or flush, you're pretty much good to go!

I would guess that players begin to be more sophisticated at nl200, and to a lesser degree nl100, but I'm not sure about that since I don't play those stakes.

Posted Sep 12, 2008 6:49pm

Hollywood Cole
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Thanks for the video, I really enjoyed it.

Posted Oct 1, 2008 4:36am

bilirubin
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Hi DJ,
I am studying this series and have also just watched your tool time vid re setting up the HEM Hud, I have noticed that your HUD's are different in your vids and to be honest I prefere the one used in this vid.

I have some of the stats already set up i.e. VPIP etc but I am struggling with the missing ones you use here, any chance you could advise me on colours and ranges for the following:

Went to Showdown
Flop Agg Factor
Turn Agg Factor
River Agg Factor

Thanks in advance

Posted Nov 18, 2008 10:27pm

DJ Sensei
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I don't really use WTSD, so I don't have a good idea of color ranges for it. As for the aggression factors, I'd say below 1 is passive, 1-2.5 is moderate, and above 2.5 is aggressive for all of them.

Posted Nov 19, 2008 1:21am

bilirubin
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I don't really use WTSD, so I don't have a good idea of color ranges for it. As for the aggression factors, I'd say below 1 is passive, 1-2.5 is moderate, and above 2.5 is aggressive for all of them.



Thanks DJ all added in and working fine.

Posted Nov 19, 2008 8:51pm