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Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by bellatrix (Micro/Small Stakes)

Time Link to 00:20:06

If we bet this turn for value (i.e. this guy is a huge calling station) what's the plan for the river?

Does it matter if he's the type of guy to peel flops and turns with everything, but fold the river? Obv's if he calling us down with every Ace High or some King highs, then we can comfortably bet most rivers. But are there any rivers you x/f? Like the J/T/9 of 's?

Time Link to 00:28:45

I'd sigh and fold.

While I think looking at various open-limping ranges is important, I don't think that has as much bearing on our decision as his river betting range. Let alone his river betting range against two opponents on an Ace high four straight board.

Normally when I see someone playing 44/15 with an aggression factor of 1.0, I wouldn't give them too much credit for turning 7 or 8 high into a bluff here. Or bluffing/vbeting/whatevering with a pair of 2's or 3's.

Now if CO makes this bet..dunno.

P.S. Besides, the tempting part of my brain that's trying to trick me into calling is only doing so b/c we flopped 2nd pair top kicker and never put in an aggressive action. Oh, and watching the turn get checked through is always frustrating .

Time Link to 00:32:31

I was going to say mostly I'd be worried about the CO (49/22) cold-calling so much here and then someone else tagging along. Just looking at the number I think this is ok based on who's on the btn/sb/bb, but that CO looks likes he ain't folding much.

Time Link to 00:34:09

Oh. Yeah this stuff.

If we bet this turn for value (i.e. this guy is a huge calling station) what's the plan for the river?

Does it matter if he's the type of guy to peel flops and turns with everything, but fold the river? Obv's if he calling us down with every Ace High or some King highs, then we can comfortably bet most rivers. But are there any rivers you x/f? Like the J/T/9 of 's?

Yep, in my mangled way of talking in this hand, I never said what I would do: definitely bet the turn and mostly for value, but also to fold out 6 outers against us. But yes, mostly to charge the FD. I would keep on b/f'ing any non-diamond river. That bet is as a bluff, I expect to be called often, but by then the pot has grown enough that bluffing is valuable. Yeah, I would probably still bet J/T/9, but feel bad about it. Definitely c/f a diamond.

Time Link to 00:30:46

What about check / raising the flop? Our equity is reasonable (I compute about 33%). Knocking out anyone with 2 overs to a 5 I think is pretty important. And, we may get better hands to fold (medium pocket pairs) depending on how the board comes on future streets. And we also avoid giving a free card on the turn. What do you think? It seems to be the standard play at the games I play.

What about check / raising the flop? Our equity is reasonable (I compute about 33%). Knocking out anyone with 2 overs to a 5 I think is pretty important. And, we may get better hands to fold (medium pocket pairs) depending on how the board comes on future streets. And we also avoid giving a free card on the turn. What do you think? It seems to be the standard play at the games I play.

If you have 33% equity definitely, but I don't think we do because of the Ace out there. I played with some ranges, especially the iso-range by the BTN and I only get to about 25% equity.

If the flop were JT2 and we had KT, then definitely.

What about check / raising the flop? Our equity is reasonable (I compute about 33%). Knocking out anyone with 2 overs to a 5 I think is pretty important. And, we may get better hands to fold (medium pocket pairs) depending on how the board comes on future streets. And we also avoid giving a free card on the turn. What do you think? It seems to be the standard play at the games I play.

If we bet the turn and he calls, then I don't see many better hands folding to a river bet. We'd be pretty much targeting 22, 33, and 44 with a diamond each, hoping they fold. The pot would only be giving us 6.25:1. I'm not convinced that's enough to bluff here.

If he just calls the turn, I think a larger portion of his range will be draws than bluffable pairs (I hope this makes sense). I'd check/call a blank river to give him a chance to bluff with those.

My response above was to Bellatrix. I quoted the wrong post.