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Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by bellatrix (Micro/Small Stakes)

STORM!

Time Link to 00:16:05

Sigh, I have class all day and won't get to watch the remainder of this vid till tonight. But...

Excited to make my first appearance in a DC vid . Give that guy at the top right a "BBB-esque" red chip IMO

Time Link to 00:18:09

I might just skip class...

Time Link to 00:39:28

Lemme save you the trouble... more compliments to you ;-), though like 5 min later I say you might have missed an opportunity for a very thin value bet.

Time Link to 00:45:55

Well, I didn't think I was getting called by worse enough for this to be a value bet. I didn't think 6x was in the flop 3bet range, so thought I was toast on a river call from pocket pairs bigger than me since a busted flush draw might not call. That is, unless I get to bluff one time ... I'm sure Aug will attest to some of my turn semibluff raises so I thought he might oblige me and return the favor here.

Maybe results oriented thinking on my part though

Well, I didn't think I was getting called by worse enough for this to be a value bet. I didn't think 6x was in the flop 3bet range, so thought I was toast on a river call from pocket pairs bigger than me since a busted flush draw might not call. That is, unless I get to bluff one time ... I'm sure Aug will attest to some of my turn semibluff raises so I thought he might oblige me and return the favor here.

yeah, bluffcatching might be worth it, you're right.
It taints it when you see the holding, because he might have called you with the holding you have, but then again, that's like 3 hands + lower pp's than 6. Still might not be enough.

Time Link to 00:43:30

I like the 3bet here also b/c there is a better chance that your pair outs are good here (just giving you that extra bump in equity) vs the flop raiser (me) whereas that likely isn't the case in the 75s hand. In this hand you correctly mentioned that the donker is doing what he does (making this game run), and the preflop raiser (me) is raising lighter for value. In the other hand, the 922 flop, that flop bettor is a solidish player and its harder for the flop raiser to have a hand you have that much equity against.

Time Link to 00:44:43

What do you think about cc/ing the flop and rzing the turn here on an A like this? Combo wise I have less Ax's in my range right? And we know I have a lighter flop raising range.

edit: err, sorry. By "I" I'm refering to the villain. We know villain has a lighter raising range.

Time Link to 00:52:10

Well, the only hands that we get called by that we beat are pp's or random 4x hands. If this player is limping utg, then I don't think he's the type to turn those hands into a bluff. So I guess I like c/f? Fwiw, I think our hand is the same think from QQ-TT, and we see a lot of Kx or 77 here, but I don't know how to determine which is more likely combo wise.

Well, the only hands that we get called by that we beat are pp's or random 4x hands. If this player is limping utg, then I don't think he's the type to turn those hands into a bluff. So I guess I like c/f? Fwiw, I think our hand is the same think from QQ-TT, and we see a lot of Kx or 77 here, but I don't know how to determine which is more likely combo wise.

I am totally aware that we are betting as a bluff. We've got something like 30% equity (35% if we are very optimistic and put in any broadway draw in there. The rare pocket pair that calls us is just a bonus. I just don't know how likely people are to fold a King here - probably unlikely, right? So yeah, c/f is probably the correct play, as I don't think people will suddenly bluff at this board.

Sigh, my subscription just ended and now I don't know what to do. I mainly play Limit and this could be a good change to DeathDonkey and mikel on my Iphone day after day ;D

Is this gonna be a 100% Ipod friendly series?

Sigh, my subscription just ended and now I don't know what to do. I mainly play Limit and this could be a good change to DeathDonkey and mikel on my Iphone day after day ;D

Is this gonna be a 100% Ipod friendly series?

Yes, this will be replayer the whole time, though I am sometimes showing a text file with reads, which might be a tad bit small for iPhone.

series name is sheer awesome

series name is sheer awesome

S.N.I.S.A.

btw bella are all your video series going to be either 4 episodes or 30?

btw bella are all your video series going to be either 4 episodes or 30?

Heh, min-cash or 1st place!

Time Link to 00:46:00

I disagree with your assessment of this hand. I think you are getting a fold on this board pretty close to 0% of the time. I think taking the free card is the higher EV play by quite a bit. People are very very rarely folding any pair once the board pairs on the turn. Once in a while you may get a river fold if the river is a K, Q or J (when he is not holding one of these cards too), but we will usually have the best hand if the K or J hit. So, in my opinion, our turn bet may only be advantageous to us when exactly a Q hits on the river. Even then I think most people will still be calling.

Also, we aren't even considering the case where villain has trips or better in which case a turn bet will usually cost us another bet when we are c/r-ed.

Also, I think villain's check on the river is fine. He knows your range is usually busted flush draws so he is probably only ever getting any value if you paired the 5 on the river. So I think checking and trying to induce is fine. Either play probably is about equal. I think you are rarely inducing a bluff here and I think a bet is almost never called here either.

I disagree with your assessment of this hand. I think you are getting a fold on this board pretty close to 0% of the time. I think taking the free card is the higher EV play by quite a bit. People are very very rarely folding any pair once the board pairs on the turn. Once in a while you may get a river fold if the river is a K, Q or J (when he is not holding one of these cards too), but we will usually have the best hand if the K or J hit. So, in my opinion, our turn bet may only be advantageous to us when exactly a Q hits on the river. Even then I think most people will still be calling.

Also, we aren't even considering the case where villain has trips or better in which case a turn bet will usually cost us another bet when we are c/r-ed.

I don't want him to fold the turn, I want him to fold eventually (the river). I am keeping my range wide with enough equity by betting. Checking back narrows my range to FDs after I 3bet the flop. If you want to go by hand strength alone and that he won't fold a pair ever (even fearing we will get c/r by trips), then we shouldn't 3bet the flop as his range (any pair, any draw - remember to get rid of the premiums that he would've 3b pre) makes us a slight (45/55) dog. An Ace makes sense in my hand and he will have trouble calling down a pair all the way to the river and even then we have the flush draw as backup. If we get c/r on the turn - it's not the end of the world, we call with our FD equity and fold if we don't hit.

Also, I think villain's check on the river is fine. He knows your range is usually busted flush draws so he is probably only ever getting any value if you paired the 5 on the river. So I think checking and trying to induce is fine. Either play probably is about equal. I think you are rarely inducing a bluff here and I think a bet is almost never called here either.

Yep, I agree that it might have been too optimistic from my part, since he will only get calls from hands like ours. Part of what messed with my head is that I usually don't call with hands like J6o in the BB in these situations 3-handed. But yeah, valuebetting there is not profitable, as I said to grandmofftarkin.

> I don't want him to fold the turn, I want him to fold eventually (the river).

Ya, I was referring to the chances of him folding the river, not the turn. I think we are almost always called on the river once the A pairs on the turn.

Plugging this hand into the EV calculator, I found that we need him to fold a pair >15% of the time approximately for our turn bet to be better than taking a free card (assuming I plugged the hand correctly into the EV calculator). Can we get a fold from a pair on this board >15% of the time? Given the A pairing, I think it might be a bit optimistic, but it's certainly debatable.