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Tubasteve and co: Group Coaching

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Tubasteve and co: Group Coaching by tubasteve

Tubasteve returns for another 50NL 2-tabling video on FTP. Join Steve and two of his students "ybother" and "turoati" as they sweat him and gain insight to his thought process at the tables. While not too many big hands take place during the video, Steve and the guys discuss a lot of interesting NL theory applicable to the micro stakes.

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Video Details

  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 70 minutes long
  • Posted almost 4 years ago

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oopsipooped

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I've decided it should be pronounced "tur-OAT-eye"

In 5th grade there was an assignment which required up to make our name into a self-referential acronym. For example, Bob might become B.ig O.bnoxious B.eautiful.

Being somewhat of an idiot, I thought we were just supposed to make up any old acronym about ourselves. I came up with turoati -- "the utmost ruler of all that is" (yes I was a dork).

Posted about 4 years ago

Ulkis

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I've decided it should be pronounced "tur-OAT-eye"

In 5th grade there was an assignment which required up to make our name into a self-referential acronym. For example, Bob might become B.ig O.bnoxious B.eautiful.

Being somewhat of an idiot, I thought we were just supposed to make up any old acronym about ourselves. I came up with turoati -- "the utmost ruler of all that is" (yes I was a dork).



Turo and Ati are actually Finnish male first names. Turo loosely means "donkey", I think. In the 80's there was a Finnish tv-comedy with 2 goof-balls, Turo and Ati, if my memory serves. That is why I expected a Finnish dude...

Anyway, I think this video shows a good teaching format, one playing and discussing with other(s)in detail as he goes along.

Posted about 4 years ago

tubasteve

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Didn't realize I was coaching a donkey! Wink I've always pronounced it "tur-oh-ah-tea" in my head, fwiw.

Posted about 4 years ago

rockofgibraltar

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Radeh

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dildog

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hey guys any plans on making videos like these for 2/4 - 5/10?

Posted about 4 years ago

tubasteve

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just realized in my PT review i said my AF's are normally 5-2-3, meant to say 5-3-2. i figure most people will know what i meant but just in case there ya go. Smile

Posted about 4 years ago

rocketboy

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I found it a nice vid, however not too much discussion going on. I think its a nice format, but I would like to see students play and the coach ask questions why they are doing what they are doing and make adjustments. Right now its more like..do you guys agree? And i think they always agreed.. Im just thinking you would get more out of it if the student plays and the coach comments.

Most training videos ofcourse you get to see the 'right' way to play. I think it would be a nice change of pace to see someone make mistakes that I can relate to. Since you tend to learn from your mistakes and all..

Posted about 4 years ago

stacktoplease

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Sorry to be offtopic but could you pls poast the cards you are using as a link please or a link where i can find some card mods like this. Thank you !

Posted about 4 years ago

six3s

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I found it a nice vid, however not too much discussion going on. I think its a nice format, but I would like to see students play and the coach ask questions why they are doing what they are doing and make adjustments. Right now its more like..do you guys agree? And i think they always agreed.. Im just thinking you would get more out of it if the student plays and the coach comments.

Most training videos ofcourse you get to see the 'right' way to play. I think it would be a nice change of pace to see someone make mistakes that I can relate to. Since you tend to learn from your mistakes and all..



I agree. As it is now its kind of gimicky and you don't really gain much from having more people talking than the expert. It seemed like what was actually tried was to get the students to say what they think is right before you make the right move, but a lot of timing out was happening so you had to just play and let them agree/disagree after and that just didn't flow as well as it was supposed to I think. I also found it annoying that mic quality was lower and louder of the students than the coach.

Some kind of reviewing of poorer players sessions could be helpfull though. I'm sure abunch of us have the sameish leaks and we could learn from that. I'm not sure what woudl be better between reviewing a recorded session and a real time one. So basically I think there are some really good ideas here it just needs some tweaking to really shine as a regular thing.

Posted about 4 years ago

Messiah

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Hey guys (rockeyboy & six3s) - We use the sweeps week for exactly this sort of thing as a trial to have a look at potential future full or mini series' so thanks for the feedback and I'm sure Steve will address this as well.

On both of your notes - Friday's video is the exact format it seems like you guys are looking for where I mentor a DC member/student while he plays 3-4 tables of NL50 and I try to take him through some keys to beating SSNL with a bonus inside look at how I start to analyze my student's games through the position stats tab in pokertracker - so look for that to be released tomorrow which I think you guys will enjoy.

As always, thanks for the feedback on this video and I will look forward to this same type of feedback on my video tomorrow because we are here for the same main reason - to unlock our members' full potential and help them achieve the highest winrate possible at their current and future higher stakes.

Posted about 4 years ago

rocketboy

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Hey Messiah, that sounds pretty awesome. Im looking forward to it.

Posted about 4 years ago

oopsipooped

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I found it a nice vid, however not too much discussion going on. I think its a nice format, but I would like to see students play and the coach ask questions why they are doing what they are doing and make adjustments. Right now its more like..do you guys agree? And i think they always agreed.. Im just thinking you would get more out of it if the student plays and the coach comments.

Most training videos ofcourse you get to see the 'right' way to play. I think it would be a nice change of pace to see someone make mistakes that I can relate to. Since you tend to learn from your mistakes and all..

I agree. As it is now its kind of gimicky and you don't really gain much from having more people talking than the expert. It seemed like what was actually tried was to get the students to say what they think is right before you make the right move, but a lot of timing out was happening so you had to just play and let them agree/disagree after and that just didn't flow as well as it was supposed to I think. I also found it annoying that mic quality was lower and louder of the students than the coach.

Some kind of reviewing of poorer players sessions could be helpfull though. I'm sure abunch of us have the sameish leaks and we could learn from that. I'm not sure what woudl be better between reviewing a recorded session and a real time one. So basically I think there are some really good ideas here it just needs some tweaking to really shine as a regular thing.



Like I told tubasteve, I think it would have worked better if we did it on a hand replayer. That way we would actually have time to discuss the action and he could have corrected our errors.

The other thing is that unfortunately no real hands came up that were that difficult to play. The format has a lot of potential though I think.

Posted about 4 years ago

Joe Tall

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Hey Messiah, that sounds pretty awesome. Im looking forward to it.



Yes, tune into Messiah's video and the video that tubasteve and I did, coming out on Saturday, that's another twist to this session review coaching method we would like feedback on.

Great video Steve, keep up the good work!

Posted about 4 years ago

zed

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zomg how did you get that background and silver money?

Posted about 4 years ago

tubasteve

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zomg how did you get that background and silver money?



Check the software forum on 2+2.

Posted about 4 years ago

tubasteve

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I agree. As it is now its kind of gimicky and you don't really gain much from having more people talking than the expert. It seemed like what was actually tried was to get the students to say what they think is right before you make the right move, but a lot of timing out was happening so you had to just play and let them agree/disagree after and that just didn't flow as well as it was supposed to I think. I also found it annoying that mic quality was lower and louder of the students than the coach.



Thanks for your comments six3s. I agree with much of what you said in this statement. This was sort of a first time thing, and I figure even if the coaching aspect wasn't that useful strategy-wise, it gives DeucesCracked subscribers some insight into one of our coaching methods, and there is plenty of strategy content to be obtained just from watching the video as I play a very solid TAG style.

Posted about 4 years ago

sweetysven

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Joined 03/2008

Nice vid! I really liked the tip of changing seats next to the fishy people! Isolating deluxe!

Posted about 4 years ago

akvsaq

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At around 37:00 you open A8, BB defends, he has a high c/r % like you say and seems pretty aggressive.

Flop comes 87x 2-tone. Tuba, you say you don't want to give a free card here and you need to protect your hand. What confuses me is other mentors say you should check behind here and play for pot control and be thinking about protecting your stack and not the hand over a small pot. If you bet and villain c/r you, you're in a tough spot. Would you mind going over this? I respect all of you but when mentors contradict each other, I get confused!

Posted about 4 years ago

July7th

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Hi, Tuba. Nice video. I agree with some of these other guys about how it came off a little unorganized and chaotic, but it did have some valuable moments for sure. Anyway, I have a question about a few of the hands that you folded.

1) 30:00 ATo, UTG
2) 30:40 QTo, SB vs COr
3) 33:35 K9s, UTG
4) 34:25 ATs, BB vs UTGr
5) 36:20 68s, SB vs UTGr

Why did we fold in these situations? I realize that in all of these situations, we were OOP, and we are supposed to play tighter OOP, but could a reasonable argument be made to play these hands? Thanks.

Posted over 3 years ago



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