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forker

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Hey I really enjoyed your vid. As always you did very good job keeping up with the 6 tables and commentary. I honestly don't know how you do it.

In regards to the 99 hand where you flopped mid set on a mono flop my first thought was wow this is really nitty. But I then played around with some ranges villain could have, and if we completely disregard all bluffs, and only put flushes, and straights into his range then our equity drops below 40%.

http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/15101-Goldseraph-13-6-tabling-200NL?seek=2680

I disregarded QQ+ and JhTh from his range because I believe he plays those differently - QQ+ is always a 3b for this guy pre vs minraiser and multiple callers being oop etc, and JhTh he will play it a lot slower on the flop because he will not want to push out people from a multiway pot when he's holding the ubernuts right?


So yeah, this is your equity against a range containing 0 bluffs.

Board: Qh 9h 8h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 39.056% 38.12% 00.94% 15094 372.00 { 9c9s }
Hand 1: 60.944% 60.01% 00.94% 23762 372.00 { 88, AhKh, AhJh, AhTh, Ah7h, Ah6h, Ah5h, Ah4h, Ah3h, Ah2h, KhJh, KhTh, Kh7h, Kh6h, JcTc, JdTd, JsTs, Jh7h, Th7h, Th6h, 7h6h, 7h5h, 7h4h, 6h5h, 6h4h, 5h4h, JTo }


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Then I realize that even if he has a few semi-bluffs or maybe AhQ or even AhJ that just "doesn't really care" our hand still looks like shit against his range.
What's most amazing to me here is that even if I add every reasonable semi-bluff-combo I can think of for this guy I can't get our equity above 50%.


45,540 games 0.001 secs 45,540,000 games/sec

Board: Qh 9h 8h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 42.759% 41.89% 00.87% 19075 397.50 { 9c9s }
Hand 1: 57.241% 56.37% 00.87% 25670 397.50 { 88, AhKh, AhJh, AhTh, Ah7h, Ah6h, Ah5h, Ah4h, Ah3h, Ah2h, KhJh, KhTh, Kh7h, Kh6h, JcTc, JdTd, JsTs, Jh7h, Th7h, Th6h, 7h6h, 7h5h, 7h4h, 6h5h, 6h4h, 5h4h, AhQc, AhQd, AhQs, AhJc, AhJd, AhJs, JTo }


So yeah, I think it was a nitty good fold Grin

Posted almost 6 years ago

Majkel

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Time Link to 00:07:25

You say that he might cold call with TT-QQ. I guess it's possible but don't you think it's not worth cbetting because he's never folding these hands to one bet?

Posted almost 6 years ago

Majkel

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I am a little bit unsure about your call one table 4.

Do you think it's a plus EV call without an assumption that he's turning made hands into bluffs?
Could you elaborate, please?

Thank you

Posted almost 6 years ago

thejuggernaut

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Time Link to 00:24:10

vs a 47/16 whos not completely ridiculous postflop I think you make way more money 3betting pre with JTs. Thoughts on turning alot of potential CC's into 3bets in this spot? (Hopefully this comment is okay, not active on DC very often.)

Posted almost 6 years ago

fabi2266

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Time Link to 00:25:17

I would make it a bit smaller on table 2 (12-14). He folds just so often on this flop so we risk less money

Posted almost 6 years ago

goldseraph

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Hey I really enjoyed your vid. As always you did very good job keeping up with the 6 tables and commentary. I honestly don't know how you do it.

In regards to the 99 hand where you flopped mid set on a mono flop my first thought was wow this is really nitty. But I then played around with some ranges villain could have, and if we completely disregard all bluffs, and only put flushes, and straights into his range then our equity drops below 40%.



Thanks for the analysis. I made the fold because I felt my equity against his range did not suffice to meet the pot odds to make that call. Your pokerstove analysis is pretty spot on.

Posted almost 6 years ago

goldseraph

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You say that he might cold call with TT-QQ. I guess it's possible but don't you think it's not worth cbetting because he's never folding these hands to one bet?



I'm unsure how much he folds TT-QQ there, I think it's a nonzero percentage. I don't 3bet shortstackers light terribly often and he probably perceives as having a value heavy range so he may just nit fold here sometimes. I also have 3 king outs on the turn vs TT-QQ if he flats. You make a good point though, my fold equity + hand equity is pretty bad so I think a check-fold on the flop is more +ev

Posted almost 6 years ago

goldseraph

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I am a little bit unsure about your call one table 4.

Do you think it's a plus EV call without an assumption that he's turning made hands into bluffs?
Could you elaborate, please?

Thank you



I am getting around 2:1 on a river call so he only has to have a non-boat 33% of the time to break even on the call. I think there is enough chance of

A) He called flop with 2 hearts, turned FD , rivered the flush and went for a c/r
B) is c/ring river for value with a straight
C) is turning a weakish OP into a bluff

that I can make the call profitably.

Posted almost 6 years ago

goldseraph

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vs a 47/16 whos not completely ridiculous postflop I think you make way more money 3betting pre with JTs. Thoughts on turning alot of potential CC's into 3bets in this spot? (Hopefully this comment is okay, not active on DC very often.)



Thanks for the comment juggernaut (same guy from 2p2?)

I think both options are +ev, however I called here because the big blind seemed like a bad passive player who I want in the pot, and if Morgauth in the SB squeezes it's very likely for value and I can react accordingly, and having JTs on the button if I complete a sqz 3 way could be a good spot. In addition, the raiser had a 50% ft3b so far (small sample), and JT doesn't dominate all that much that he calls a 3bet with imo.

Posted almost 6 years ago

thejuggernaut

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Yeah same guy.

I think in this spot its not really about domination, but the fact that this type of fish will be bad enough to flat a large portion of his opening range oop, but not bad enough to continue past the flop with less than a decent pair or draw. JTs is a good choice b/c it flops equity and plays well IP on the later streets when your cbet gets called, but realistically, if its your first 3bet vs this fish, you could probably get away with being really wide as the risk of getting a light call down is smaller. Add this to the times we just win preflop, and EV 3betting to iso should crush that of coldcalling to create a MW pot/potentially calling blah's squeeze.

Im a bit of a monkey though, so take that with a grain of salt I guess.

Posted almost 6 years ago

shades

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Timelink isnt coming up on video for me

2.00 you almost instant fold KQo utg with 6-7 fish on the table plus a poster , il put that down to just starting the video , it would usualy only take 1 big fish to be at the table for me to be opening this , is that to wide ? i mostly play 6max , can be hard to tell , i would think its fine if theres no regs that might look to give me trouble

17.40 , EP fish limps , you limp along with ATo , is that a line a lot of FR regs would use in EP/MP to prevent your iso raises from getting 3bet ? On that table the only player you have to worry about is blah , rest are fish , i think an iso should be fine here , i cant see many other reasons to limp. Maybe your limping because you just want to play pots with all the fish , maybe ATo would play better hu vs 1 or 2 fish rather than more players in a limped pot. I would iso without considering a limp so maybe im missing something here.

36.40 surprised at the fold with 33 when the fish opens , why did you fold here ? whats the worst PP youd be calling vs a semi-decent reg in this spot ?

Great video , solid folds with AA and 99

Posted almost 6 years ago

blah234

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sweet I'm in the video as the only guy with a red marker whatever that means. You gave me too much credit in the video, I was mass tabling, auto piloting, button clicking, fish hunting that day.

Posted almost 6 years ago

goldseraph

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sweet I'm in the video as the only guy with a red marker whatever that means.



it means 'tough reg' , i rarely give it out you should be honored Grin

Posted almost 6 years ago

goldseraph

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Timelink isnt coming up on video for me

2.00 you almost instant fold KQo utg with 6-7 fish on the table plus a poster , il put that down to just starting the video , it would usualy only take 1 big fish to be at the table for me to be opening this , is that to wide ? i mostly play 6max , can be hard to tell , i would think its fine if theres no regs that might look to give me trouble

17.40 , EP fish limps , you limp along with ATo , is that a line a lot of FR regs would use in EP/MP to prevent your iso raises from getting 3bet ? On that table the only player you have to worry about is blah , rest are fish , i think an iso should be fine here , i cant see many other reasons to limp. Maybe your limping because you just want to play pots with all the fish , maybe ATo would play better hu vs 1 or 2 fish rather than more players in a limped pot. I would iso without considering a limp so maybe im missing something here.

36.40 surprised at the fold with 33 when the fish opens , why did you fold here ? whats the worst PP youd be calling vs a semi-decent reg in this spot ?

Great video , solid folds with AA and 99



Thanks for the comments, glad you enjoyed the video!

2:00 - I def would raise KQo in EP sometimes with fish at the table, probably like you said, I did my standard play of folding because I wasn't paying enough attention.

17:40 - the limp along was a misclick, you'll notice i go to click the fold button but I missed and hit call instead Gasp

36:40 - with the 33 hand I didnt like cold calling because several fish and aggressive regulars were behind so I felt the fish can bluff and value sqz and the regs can definitely squeeze light for value even with just random broadways or suited aces, and I can never call the squeeze really.

Posted almost 6 years ago

JeSsEiCp

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It is a sin that they cancelled Veronica Mars.

Posted almost 6 years ago

goldseraph

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lol agree altho the 3rd season was def the weakest imo

Posted almost 6 years ago



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