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Never Tell Me the Odds: Episode Two

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Never Tell Me the Odds: Episode Two by KRANTZ

KRANTZ and FenderJaguar are back and this week they review a video of FJ's play at 4-tables of $2/4 and $3/6.

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spotDEspot

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Guys the audio is out of sync with the video....quite a bit - video way ahead of audio (this is using DC player - haven't DL'd).

Posted over 2 years ago

ladymuck

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Caporegime

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Guys the audio is out of sync with the video....quite a bit - video way ahead of audio (this is using DC player - haven't DL'd).



same here

Posted over 2 years ago

HighOctane

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T6s - You have position and a double gutter and initiave and you fold to a flop donk bet? Why?

Posted over 2 years ago

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PatBateman

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Please release a synched version... Looks really good so far but the audio drives me crazy...

Posted over 2 years ago

Squishee

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Im happy to not be insane , the action wasnt fitting witht he audi Gasp

Posted over 2 years ago

FenderJaguar

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T6s - You have position and a double gutter and initiave and you fold to a flop donk bet? Why?



He donked pot on a board w/a flush draw and he doesn't have much money behind. It's very unlikely that he's going to give up or that I'll be able to win the pot when I do hit, and my outs aren't always clean, so I prefer a fold.

Posted over 2 years ago

malfaire

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another vote for fixing the audio, please.

Posted over 2 years ago

KRANTZ

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another vote for fixing the audio, please.



There were production issues on Chris' end (his comp crashed after we finished and he was doing the recording), if the DC ninjas can't fix this then Chris and I will be doing an extra video as soon as possible.

Bear with us! I have another video coming out in the next day or so that you guys should like as well :-)

Posted over 2 years ago

RobsonFan

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There were production issues on Chris' end (his comp crashed after we finished and he was doing the recording), if the DC ninjas can't fix this then Chris and I will be doing an extra video as soon as possible.

Bear with us! I have another video coming out in the next day or so that you guys should like as well :-)



what are the odds that you are talking about NL HU?

Posted over 2 years ago

PatBateman

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There were production issues on Chris' end (his comp crashed after we finished and he was doing the recording), if the DC ninjas can't fix this then Chris and I will be doing an extra video as soon as possible.

Bear with us! I have another video coming out in the next day or so that you guys should like as well :-)



Cool Smile

Hope this does not come off as being a dick but using Pamela (if you guys use skype) or some other audio recording software will get rid of this problem cause you then have two seperate files and it's easily synched. So crashing wouldn't fuck up the audio.

Posted over 2 years ago

KRANTZ

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what are the odds that you are talking about NL HU?



pretty good...

Posted over 2 years ago

KRANTZ

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Cool Smile

Hope this does not come off as being a dick but using Pamela (if you guys use skype) or some other audio recording software will get rid of this problem cause you then have two seperate files and it's easily synched. So crashing wouldn't fuck up the audio.



We use Pamela, the problem was with the video and not the audio.

Posted over 2 years ago

FenderJaguar

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Cool Smile

Hope this does not come off as being a dick but using Pamela (if you guys use skype) or some other audio recording software will get rid of this problem cause you then have two seperate files and it's easily synched. So crashing wouldn't fuck up the audio.



Here's the long story of what happened....

I got a new video card to run my 30" and a 24" at the same time (previous card wouldn't), and that made my PSU a very sad PSU when I would try to produce a vid with camtasia (he's not strong enough at 500w, so I need to get a bigger one). I had however, been able to record and save vids. After we recorded, my computer crashed during the saving process (keep in mind the video is long and I'm recording on a 30") and when I rebooted and tried to recover, it only saved part of it.

The audio in the first 37 min is ahead a bit but after that it's way better, big apologies folks.

Do you like Huey Lewis and the news?

Posted over 2 years ago

TecmoSuperBowl

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I read in Fender's blog that he has a history of his computer failing when recording. Maybe he should ship you the video next time? Seems -EV to have him do any recording since he's already aware that something like this could happen.

Posted over 2 years ago

PatBateman

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Do you like Huey Lewis and the news?



Their early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercial and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far much more bitter, cynical sense of humour.

Posted over 2 years ago

WeekendWarrior

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Why did you minraise pre ? And why is the turn a good barrel card ? and did you plan to tripple barrel here ?

Posted over 2 years ago

FenderJaguar

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If you look again, you'll see that I hit pot and raised. We'll have to ask FTP about that minraise heh. I would never be minraising there.

Double barreling here because it was a minraise preflop, which gives the fish a super wide range postflop, and on this board he's going to peel with a lot of hands, so the J should be an overcard to ton of his pairs, and he prob has some bad draws (gutter specifically) that are going to fold to a 2nd barrel as well. I would consider triple barreling sometimes for sure. I wouldn't always though.

Posted over 2 years ago

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I gotcha on the passive and agro lines, but what about when you are readless? what is your default on a monotone flop with aces no suit against unknown?

Posted over 2 years ago

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FenderJaguar

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I gotcha on the passive and agro lines, but what about when you are readless? what is your default on a monotone flop with aces no suit against unknown?



probably bet, usually until raised.

Posted over 2 years ago

PatBateman

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you call yourself pat bateman and then quote the movie?! Read the book you charlatan!



I want to answer this with my thoughts while at the zoo today...

Though I am satisfied at first by my actions, I'm suddenly jolted with a mournful despair at how useless, how extraordinarily painless, it is to take a child's life. ... It's so much worse (and more pleasurable) taking the life of someone who has hit his or her prime, who has the beginnings of a full history, a spouse, a network of friends, a career, whose death will upset far more people whose capacity of grief is limitless than a child's would, perhaps ruin many more lives than just the meaningless, puny death of this boy.

Posted over 2 years ago

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I want to answer this with my thoughts while at the zoo today...

Though I am satisfied at first by my actions, I'm suddenly jolted with a mournful despair at how useless, how extraordinarily painless, it is to take a child's life. ... It's so much worse (and more pleasurable) taking the life of someone who has hit his or her prime, who has the beginnings of a full history, a spouse, a network of friends, a career, whose death will upset far more people whose capacity of grief is limitless than a child's would, perhaps ruin many more lives than just the meaningless, puny death of this boy.



i might have chosen the rat scene...but clearly you are as big a fan as i. if you haven't read glamorama, i just finished it, and it's incredibly worthwhile.

Posted over 2 years ago

PatBateman

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i might have chosen the rat scene...but clearly you are as big a fan as i. if you haven't read glamorama, i just finished it, and it's incredibly worthwhile.



Glamorama is the only Ellis book I have not finished so far - currently reading it (wanted to do it for years but always pushed it back for some reason) Wink

Thought the rat scene might get me banned or a warning lol

Posted over 2 years ago

2fouroffsuit

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Here where you both seemed surprised that he didn't shove or click it back with 555 on the river, is there any really reason to?
Where you say that Fender either has the nuts or not, is KH really getting called by worse if he puts in another raise? It's not like FJ could really get there with a lower set (and that's probably a fold if that's how the action really goes down, right?).

Great video. I like the series! I like the banter back and forth too!

Posted over 2 years ago

hurt

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hey krantz,

imo the flat by KoreanHacker when he rivers his set (00:12:14) is completely fine. the only 2 hands that make sense are A4s and 55, as you said.

since KH has 55, FJ can't have it and so he can expect to see air or A4s, and against that range raising makes no sense.

Posted over 2 years ago

HiT0Mi

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whats your Interface mod on FT? Looks sick, I want!

Posted over 2 years ago

FenderJaguar

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whats your Interface mod on FT? Looks sick, I want!




I have cards/tables from Tiltbuster. The table mod w/color circles, and the card mod that's pale. I like that soft office tone. Nothing too rough on the eyes.

Posted over 2 years ago

chinz

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what are the odds that you are talking about NL HU?

pretty good...



I call!

Posted over 2 years ago

richbrown

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Here where you both seemed surprised that he didn't shove or click it back with 555 on the river, is there any really reason to?
Where you say that Fender either has the nuts or not, is KH really getting called by worse if he puts in another raise? It's not like FJ could really get there with a lower set (and that's probably a fold if that's how the action really goes down, right?).

Great video. I like the series! I like the banter back and forth too!



This is what I was thinking as well.

Posted over 2 years ago

czzarr

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how do you not confuse suits with such faded colors is beyond me Poke Tongue

Posted over 2 years ago

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KRANTZ

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I gotcha on the passive and agro lines, but what about when you are readless? what is your default on a monotone flop with aces no suit against unknown?



I bet

Posted over 2 years ago

KRANTZ

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re: the 555 hand, you guys are right, shoving or making a big reraise is awful. if i were fender i'd click it back though. if you've got the right image, magical stuff happens. chris' blog name should be abrakadabraalakazamBAM!

Posted over 2 years ago

hurt

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so is this getting fixed? this vid seems really good but unfortunately it gets unwatchable midway or so Frown

Posted over 2 years ago

FenderJaguar

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so is this getting fixed? this vid seems really good but unfortunately it gets unwatchable midway or so Frown



the unwatchable is actually only at the middle, as after 37 min it was patched really well.

I know it's a bit forward but honestly you guys are poker players, refresh the hand, go back and watch the hand we start talking about etc. I know it's annoying but I really feel like there's a lot of good info here. Don't let the messed up audio stop you from learning, it's not THAT messed up, it's just far from optimal. <3 I've watched it 2x so far the way it is.

Posted over 2 years ago

FenderJaguar

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how do you not confuse suits with such faded colors is beyond me Poke Tongue



I think I would only mess them up if they looked similar, but they don't. Faded green does not = faded blue etc. Smile They're quite nice and easy on the eyes, just like me Wink

Posted over 2 years ago

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Really enjoyed this video.

For all those crying about audio - get over it - it does not have that much of an impact at all.

Looking forward to the rest of this series as this is shaping up really well.

You have any idea the name of this table mod - I did not think it was even possible to change the fonts of players names.

Posted over 2 years ago

FenderJaguar

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Really enjoyed this video.

For all those crying about audio - get over it - it does not have that much of an impact at all.

Looking forward to the rest of this series as this is shaping up really well.

You have any idea the name of this table mod - I did not think it was even possible to change the fonts of players names.



I'll find the name of the mod real fast, but the text size I edited myself in XML. It's not from the layout.

The layout is called Gibson, and the cards are Ninja FTP. Tiltbuster.com

Posted over 2 years ago

MrCrunk

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Its not the text size I am talking about its the font used for the players names - is that something you can change in XML as well?

Posted over 2 years ago

FenderJaguar

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Its not the text size I am talking about its the font used for the players names - is that something you can change in XML as well?



I didn't change any fonts, maybe it just looks different resized, but yeah monkey with the XML file Smile

Posted over 2 years ago

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seems like good content. But cant follow the discussion cause of the audio.
sorry three stars. and the colours of the cards is very hard to see, if someone has slightly problems with it cause of colorblind. Maybe its better to skip such videos an d just dont release them. thats not the quality I expect to see here on deuces. Sorry for Fender jaguar Frown hope we can enjoy your game as soon as possible again but in better videoquality

Posted over 2 years ago

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spotDEspot

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I think the sync problem is a pain for while but as FenderJaguar says it clears up after a while and it's fine then. There's just a period between about 15-25 mins when it gets difficult to follow. Content is excellent.

Posted over 2 years ago

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remove the video if u cant fix the audio

Posted over 2 years ago

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remove the video if u cant fix the audio



why?

Posted over 2 years ago

smpro2

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why?


because it s unacceptable to have a video like this.

Posted over 2 years ago

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because it s unacceptable to have a video like this.



you know you don't have to watch it right?

Posted over 2 years ago

FenderJaguar

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because it s unacceptable to have a video like this.



It's honestly not that bad. Would it be awesome if we didn't have technical difficulties, yes clearly. Is it worth your time to weather the storm in the name of learning and improving your poker game? Yes clearly. I don't really see it as unacceptable when it's far from unwatchable and the content as others have stated, is excellent.

I apologize again for the issues on my end though I implore you to focus on what's really important here.

Think about it as if it were a session of poker, do you give up and quit because you got a bad river card? What if you only bet 1/2 pot with the nuts on the river, and your opponent didn't raise with the 2nd nuts, are you going to quit because you didn't get paid off completely but could have?

It's really important to be flexible in poker and be able to objectively rationalize and work with whatever comes your way day in and day out. Is 25 minutes of out of sync audio in a 76 minute video really going to close your mind to any learning that can be accomplished? Think about that....

I'll stop ranting now Grin

Posted over 2 years ago

hurt

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i mean people very well might be overreacting but you really can't fault paying customers for criticizing something like this.

Posted over 2 years ago

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i mean people very well might be overreacting but you really can't fault paying customers for criticizing something like this.



You are paying $29.99 to hear a personal sweat from a coach who charges $500-1000 an hour? On top of that you get 6 other videos each day of the week from other coaches who charge the same rate plus a whole archive of videos to choose from. The content in this video alone is worth way more than your one month subscription.

DC has top notch customer support so if you have a problem with this site I'm sure you will really hate the other coaching sites. I'm sure they will fix it.

Posted over 2 years ago

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You are paying $29.99 to hear a personal sweat from a coach who charges $500-1000 an hour? On top of that you get 6 other videos each day of the week from other coaches who charge the same rate plus a whole archive of videos to choose from. The content in this video alone is worth way more than your one month subscription.

DC has top notch customer support so if you have a problem with this site I'm sure you will really hate the other coaching sites. I'm sure they will fix it.



$29 :-)

We're gonna make the next episode longer to make up for it.

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FenderJaguar

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$29 :-)

We're gonna make the next episode longer to make up for it.



It's true. I even got a tent, and he's bringing the stuff for smores Grin

Posted over 2 years ago

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It's true. I even got a tent, and he's bringing the stuff for smores Grin



youre an odd student! i suppose i am an odd teacher!

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Time Link to 00:54:00

Hi guys,

I noticed that you fold pocket 4's here. Is it not worth playing for set value or am I bringing my NL50 mentality in here?

Posted over 2 years ago

FenderJaguar

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Hi guys,

I noticed that you fold pocket 4's here. Is it not worth playing for set value or am I bringing my NL50 mentality in here?



I fold 9Ts in that position vs. that player as well. 44 is a bit different b/c of the set factor but I folded b/c I don't have a great read on villains postflop game, and he looks pretty loose (in the loose reg sense, not the loose fish sense) so it's going to be hard to showdown, or win by turning my hand into a bluff. small pairs just suck in that spot and I'd usually 3b or fold. say it was me in the bb and the fish called in the sb, obv a call then, or if I was on the button. or if I knew this guy slipped and tripped off his flux capacitor and was stuck in like 2006, then he'd pretty much be getting any overpair in on any flop, and he'd be a giant puss postflop too. so then I'd call Grin mmmm variables.

Posted over 2 years ago

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Pleeeease fix the sound until next time. This series really has a lot of potential!

Posted over 2 years ago

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What does your colours mean when making notes?

Posted over 2 years ago

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What does your colours mean when making notes?



various degrees of stuff. I'll elaborate

green means go, so green guys are generally fish or guys with a huge leak that I should have a pretty high winrate against

red means DANGER WILL ROBINSON! so red guys are either shortstackers, nits, or regs that will pay more attention to what I'm doing.

yellow is a dude that could be a fish or a bad reg or a nutcase, he's undefined.

orange dudes are usually regs that I don't have a ton of history with, or regs that don't stand out as annoying or playing back much.

aqua blue is a weak or very bad reg, someone I would almost consider a fish

pink are lagtards and maniacs! Grin

I think that's it, I've used the colors for so long I'm used to it, and I color code everyone to make table selection faster/easier.

Posted over 2 years ago

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Thx. Yeah i do the same. Was curious about your sorting of colours. Oh and btw is my screenname that bad to make fun of ? Wink

Posted over 2 years ago

FenderJaguar

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Thx. Yeah i do the same. Was curious about your sorting of colours. Oh and btw is my screenname that bad to make fun of ? Wink



Are you saying that you're jangles? Grin Or am I missing something? Smile

Posted over 2 years ago

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Yeah, exactly. I'm so sick of people sending me their stupid bad beats and whining on Skype. The other day I sent someone a few hands I thought were funny, and he sends me 2 or 3 bad beats and starts bitching about how he runs bad and why don't I, and blah blah blah. OMG!!!!

Go out side and yell at the rain! "God damn rain! Why is it raining?!?!?!?! It always rains when I don't want it to!"

STOP BEING MAD AT THE DAMN RAIN!!!

Sorry, /rant

Edit: It wasn't a DC member Poke Tongue

Posted over 2 years ago

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Thank you dear DC for this video!
It was like a gift from above... Amen

Posted over 2 years ago

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you just told a level 2 bad beat story. thanks -_-

Posted over 2 years ago

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various degrees of stuff. I'll elaborate

green means go, so green guys are generally fish or guys with a huge leak that I should have a pretty high winrate against

red means DANGER WILL ROBINSON! so red guys are either shortstackers, nits, or regs that will pay more attention to what I'm doing.

yellow is a dude that could be a fish or a bad reg or a nutcase, he's undefined.

orange dudes are usually regs that I don't have a ton of history with, or regs that don't stand out as annoying or playing back much.

aqua blue is a weak or very bad reg, someone I would almost consider a fish

pink are lagtards and maniacs! Grin

I think that's it, I've used the colors for so long I'm used to it, and I color code everyone to make table selection faster/easier.



and now i'm learning something from you - that is awesome never thought to do that

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FenderJaguar

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and now i'm learning something from you - that is awesome never thought to do that



hehe I hope the information traded is worth it for you Grin lol.

Posted over 2 years ago

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Jay,

Just wanted to say thank you for such a great site. I am really seeing an improvement in my game. As for the audio, keep Audacity in mind as an option. Super easy to record/edit audio. If memory serves me correctly, I think it was free.

Posted over 2 years ago

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About seven minutes in, Fender checks back Qs Jd 8s with Ks 9x. Jay says "You're not getting checkraised very often on this board," and says it's best to cbet, especially with this hand which is just a gutshot. The Razor's Edge series seemed to emphasize that this is the sort of board that we'll get a lot of calls on. Jay points out that a lot of those calls will be with pretty marginal hands and we'll use position to barrel some of the time. So would you be more inclined to check back on a somewhat lower coordinated board with a similar hand? On what boards do you fear a lot of checkraises against an unknown opponent? And what cards are you planning to barrel?

Posted over 2 years ago

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krantz, did u really not know how to use HEM popups? level right?

Posted over 2 years ago

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For those of you bitching about the audio: Download the video, open it in VLC, then when the audio goes out of sync, delay it -40000ms, then at 42min change it back to 0.

Posted over 2 years ago

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is there a ipod comaptible download for this video ??

Posted over 2 years ago

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00:22:02 on 07/12/10: How often do you donk lead 754(2tone) flops after flatting STl att. in blinds? What kind of boards? Just boards like this one that villain might not cbet his air on? any reads that made that particular situation special?

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FenderJaguar

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00:22:02 on 07/12/10: How often do you donk lead 754(2tone) flops after flatting STl att. in blinds? What kind of boards? Just boards like this one that villain might not cbet his air on? any reads that made that particular situation special?



I do it as often as my opponent lets me. If they never adjust I pound it. As far as a general guideline for situations like that, you can lead flops that they don't cbet a lot, flops they pot control a lot on etc. you can lead with a balanced range of your own, sets/big draws, and hands like the nut flush or 2nd flush backdoor, 2 overs and a backdoor straight or flush draw, lots of stuff that has at least some equity. I wouldn't be leading pairs that had 2 outs unless I knew damn well my opponent was going to fold before the river, I'd need a good read w/dead equity.

No reads specifically for that spot, it's just a way of balancing my range with some of the best hands I'd otherwise be check/folding so my range there isn't always a set or draw I'm felting.

Posted almost 2 years ago

FenderJaguar

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Time Link to 01:03:43

It's funny because at the time I couldn't remember barreling off here and getting called by midpairs, and now I can't remember a time I barreled off and got a fold from midpairs (for better or worse) lolol MY MY HOW THINGS CHANGE Grin

Posted over 1 year ago

phill2k8

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VryNice2SeeU

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Time Link to 00:49:53

fold 79s there? thought that was a good spot too just flat and see a flop with a decent suited connector

Posted 8 months ago

donkrx

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The 99 hand at the beginning of the video on K73r, I like the check back on the flop but I hate the check back on the turn. If you're not betting 99 there you're really never betting anything but a good K, and that not only makes you easy to play against but makes it impossible for you to get value with what is almost definitely the best hand (and way ahead as well). It seems to me like you're taking the initial small piece of information you received (that he checked the flop instead of c-betting) and cementing your read in that alone, while ignoring other information you were given later in the hand.

Also at the beginning with the K9 hand on QJ8, I feel you need to c-bet there. You have a King and a gutshot but let's be honest, there's zero showdown value in that and getting check raised is like whatever, its just a gutshot and one overcard (and some outs are tainted by diamonds, so its a poor 'draw')... like Jay said I'd be more worried about being check raised when we have AQ there. Also, cbetting $20 into $29 only has to work like 40% of the time, so if you give the BB a reasonable flatting range (suited connectors and small pairs in addition to broadways, while capping it since he would 3bet the top of his range) you'll find that he really cant hit that flop all that often... use Flopzilla for that. With a QJ8ss board a lot of the time you could probably take him off his hand even if he check/calls because the majority of his hands that check/call are going to be pair + gutshot, like JT, 89, low diamonds, etc. His stronger hands are almost definitely check raising (and many 3betting pre as mentioned), which is actually even more of an argument for c-betting because if he just check/calls you may very well have a profitable double/triple barrel spot on some turns/rivers. Basically the point I'm trying to make is not to look at the board and say "man there's a lot of middling-high cards out there, he probably hit that hard" and instead think of his entire range and how many hands actually missed... and on top of that, keep in mind that that board hits our range too , maybe even moreso.

Also, last point, you justify checking down the 99 to the river because you think you're only going to get one street of value. The problem is that you're probably more likely to get one street of value on the turn rather than the river .... and the reason for that is because if you were bluffing with air you certainly wouldn't wait till the river to take your "stab" at the pot, and he knows that. In fact, a lot of people stab at the flop even. So when you want to value bet thinly think about what most people do with a weak hand ... the key to getting value is convincing your opponent that his hand might be better, not being certain yourself that yours is better than his. When you wait till the river your hand becomes very face up and allows him to fold things like ace-high, whereas he potentially would call with that on the turn (or some one pair hand like 78s).

Posted 3 months ago



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