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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by KRANTZ (Mid Stakes)

\o/ Fridayyyyyy...finally!

is the sound a little behind the image for anyone else?

prolly only time in my life I will be one step ahead of krantz

is the sound a little behind the image for anyone else?

yep

"I went with my read and i'm sticking to it" lol classic.

Great seson conclusion. Looking forward to next week's session by Krantz.

Unfortunately the sound on this one is a little bit out of sync (flash version)

Sugar Nut

i did some jumping jacks and i have to say krantz has never given such great advice. i feel fantastic.

also, great video as usual. i agree with almost all major decisions. i like the A3 shove. maybe its not strictly +EV (because a lot of the time that hes bluffing he probably has a pretty strong draw with a lot of outs) but i think its a great play to make with metagame implications. not only do you learn a lot about this opponent but if you call and win you will put him on megatilt, whether it is by sucking out and hitting an ace on the river or by having the best hand. if he stays and plays a long session, this little investment will reap huge benefits.

About the "can't read red text on red background" thing with the session stats in HEM...you can change the color/opacity to whatever you want

5 stars due to the vince van patten comment on hands and then complete silence and then you both sounding like a couple of complete stoners

lol Lou

lol, u tell him u have to go in 10 minutes after u stack him. dunno why, it made me laugh

overall terrific video as usual

genius. hold'em manager seems better than poker tracker.

following questions (what if

4.55: QJo on JTc7c board; what i he c/r your CB to 24 / 30 / 36 usd? if you call, what turns do you call/fold/shove?

40.19: what if: (269 effective stack): AJs, we 3bet, what if he 4bets to 65? what if he makes it 50 or 55?

58.43: A7o: don't you think that there's value in a 35$ river bet?

1.08.30: ATo: do you snapcall if he overshoves? does a 6 on river change anything?

overall great video, even though i liked some others of the season better

great video.

is the ep8 sweating pr1nnyraid the last of the series or r u going to cover some other topics as well?
really am enjoying this whole hu series as these r pretty hard to find elsewhere.

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nice vid guys.. great to see a match in its entirety and the necessary adjustments you needed to make along the way

you said you would give a bit more input on the Q10 hand where we had middle pair in a 3-bet pot (x10A 2 heart flop) and said it was good to lead out there.. what are good conditions to pot control and c/c? I'm guessing if villain defends light and bets a ton when checked to we would be inclined to c/c there? .. why did we lead out? is it because he was very prone to floating or bluff-raising in that spot, but didn't seem to be betting when checked to in 3-bet pots?

great vid.

Have a few questions

On the AQ hand (3bet pot, you are OOP and flop is QJT r) you bet flop and he calls what range do you put him on?
If he raises flop is this an auto felt?
(I am assuming it is given history + player type)
Are there any player types/other spots where you would not want to get it in on this flop in a 3bet pot.
What range would you be getting it in here?


On the turn you bet a 2(I think). Are there any turns cards whereby you would play different. ie. if the 9 or K comes out. Would this still be a felt?

following questions (what if

4.55: QJo on JTc7c board; what i he c/r your CB to 24 / 30 / 36 usd? if you call, what turns do you call/fold/shove?

It was still fairly early in the match. I'd probably call any of the checkraises and call most turns, i don't think i'd be shoving any turns except for a J or Q. If he bet heavily on a club i'd fold, otherwise i'm planning to call most turns and re-eval the river

40.19: what if: (269 effective stack): AJs, we 3bet, what if he 4bets to 65? what if he makes it 50 or 55?

interesting question. we had been 3betting him so much i'm inclined to ship it in but if he only makes it 50 or 55 then there's a fair amount of play left... i think calling and making a move on favorable flops is better.

58.43: A7o: don't you think that there's value in a 35$ river bet?

i don't think so, although we have the best hand a lot, i don't think he's calling with a worse hand >= 50% of the time

1.08.30: ATo: do you snapcall if he overshoves? does a 6 on river change anything?

yea absolutely snap call. once we take such a bluffy line on the flop we're committing ourselves to the hand pretty much no matter what. i'm surprised he didnt jam the deuce on the flop and i would expect to jam the 6 on the flop too once we took that line. also we had just been in such control of the match that he could have been ready to snap at any point.

overall great video, even though i liked some others of the season better

thanks, glad you liked the video. I felt really good about how it turned out once it was over. I guess the first 20-30 mins might have been a bit slow but overall I thought there was quite a bit of informative discussion. honestly i'm somewhat surprised there hasn't been a more positive response (certainly that's ok! we're always open to hearing what we could have done better so we can exceed expectations in the future!)

great vid.

Have a few questions

On the AQ hand (3bet pot, you are OOP and flop is QJT r) you bet flop and he calls what range do you put him on?
If he raises flop is this an auto felt?
(I am assuming it is given history + player type)
Are there any player types/other spots where you would not want to get it in on this flop in a 3bet pot.
What range would you be getting it in here?


On the turn you bet a 2(I think). Are there any turns cards whereby you would play different. ie. if the 9 or K comes out. Would this still be a felt?

if we bet a hand like pair+straight draw we're probably felting it, but something like J9 we'd check a lot here and play some pot control. We're pretty much auto-felting here and expect his range to be fairly wide, mostly including hands with some sort of K or 9 in them. Also we'd expect many of the hands that really nail this flop to 4bet us preflop with a fairly high frequency. Certainly hands like JT/QJ/QT are well within his flatting range though.

if a 9 hits the turn we're definitely playing pretty cautiously (likely c/f) as it would nail his range hard. if the K hits we probably go ahead and bet it.

WoT

nice vid guys.. great to see a match in its entirety and the necessary adjustments you needed to make along the way

you said you would give a bit more input on the Q10 hand where we had middle pair in a 3-bet pot (x10A 2 heart flop) and said it was good to lead out there.. what are good conditions to pot control and c/c? I'm guessing if villain defends light and bets a ton when checked to we would be inclined to c/c there? .. why did we lead out? is it because he was very prone to floating or bluff-raising in that spot, but didn't seem to be betting when checked to in 3-bet pots?

imo there are 3 big considerations on whether or not we're going to lead here:

a) do we know what to do vs a raise
b) do we know what to do on a blank turn
c) if we check, do we have an idea about his frequency for bluffing multiple streets at us.

so if we're checking to control the pot, we have to worry about either being bluffed off the hand or getting value towned (ie playing a guessing game). if we know he's going to bluff us a lot, we can c/c to induce, if we know he's never bluffing if we check, then we can play it that way.

in this case, we felt many of his big aces would be reraising us preflop and we didnt feel like he'd raise a weak Ax hand here on the flop. so when he raises he's on a bluff or heart draw most of the time. we were fortunate enough to get a very good turn although on a lot of turns we're calling (given our read)

WoT

Great vid! You got a perfect villain for a vid like this, Both very entertaining vid as a lot to learn from!

1.07 On the A10 hand, why did you check the turn? Is it because you thought you would only be called by better and would fold worse? One of the best HU vids I've seen. Considering how tricky villain was, I was amazed how much you guys took from him. Great Job

5 stars due to the vince van patten comment on hands and then complete silence and then you both sounding like a couple of complete stoners

Yeah, that part was more than awesome.

On your HUD what does ST, FS and FB mean? I can figure out the other ones but drawing a blank on these, thanks.

On your HUD what does ST, FS and FB mean? I can figure out the other ones but drawing a blank on these, thanks.

steal, fold small blind to steal and fold big blind to steal i think. They are stats left over from 6max play i think. obviously FS is not applicable to heads up, but FB would be the counterpart to vpip of the big blind, and steal is the same as pfr from the sb

Hey guys. First post. Joined after seeing DC coaches make final tables @ WSOP 2008. (I was a camera person shooting final tables here in Vegas). That was all the proof I needed.

Before I begin, i completely love this site. I've been a "silent member" watching videos, reading forums for the past year, but I'm breaking my silence. EP7: Best Video EVA! Also, though not results-oriented, I came away quite impressed with the villain, given he was battling 2 DC coaches while 4 tabling! Not sure if most members watching would have fared much better... unless they followed rule #1... if you're losing your azz, find a better game!

6:38- Villain limps blind 1st time. You have A8o. Do you 5x raise pf if you have J4o? What if he continued this behavior? How strategy would you use against a player that will continuously limp with wide range (AA-random junk)?

7:19- This is the JTc hand that you defended to a 3 bet. Instead of turning a J, what if the Turn brought a Q or a brick on that 662r board.

Also.. Please play from Villain's perspective if he had 88. How would you play his hand differently?

12:32 - Please play from Villain's perspective if he had KJ or AJ? Would a heart draw in your hand change bet sizing? What is the worst hand you need to call a shove on this board?

wow I loved this video. So good. That's like a HU players dream that guy . Just curious tho...
Sometimes you guys opt to continue bet mid pair decent kicker and sometimes you decide to check back. What's the determining factors in doing this? If you continue bet often doesn't it induce more check raises allowing us to catch more check raise bluffs?

Time Link to 00:50:41

From 50:18 to 51:09 you discuss how opponent is not adjusting to you.

At 50:48 you say that opponent right now normally plays against players who do not adjust at all, and at 50:55 you say that the A3 hand (way back at 22:15-24:05 you made a bad call with A3o on a J26-K-6 board when Villain had AK and checkraised all-in on the turn) will not have any affect because he is not the kind of player who is making adjustments, and is just playing his general strategy.

If he was able to make adjustments, then how should he adjust to you after seeing that A3 hand? Just not bluff you, and value bet thin? And what would be your counter-adjustment?

Time Link to 01:07:47

Here are some comments from above that you already made on this hand:

1.08.30: ATo: do you snapcall if he overshoves? does a 6 on river change anything?

yea absolutely snap call. once we take such a bluffy line on the flop we're committing ourselves to the hand pretty much no matter what. i'm surprised he didnt jam the deuce on the flop and i would expect to jam the 6 on the flop too once we took that line. also we had just been in such control of the match that he could have been ready to snap at any point.


After you make this small 3bet to induce action, I was wondering if it would be possible for him to somehow still force you to re-evaluate (possible for him to still bluff you). Specifically, say that after you small 3bet to 54, he responds by small 4betting to 90. Would you just jam, or would you call, and if you just called and then he bets strong on the turn, would that get you to fold?

Or how about if he calls your small 3bet, just like he did, and then bet the turn and shoved the river?

Part of the reason why I ask this is because you did indicate in the video after he called, instead of jamming, that his call looked like he actually had something. Therefore, perhaps it is possible for him to use only moderate aggression, and thus force you to fold?

hi there, I am new to HU
In the JTs hand on min.07 when you 3bet, cbet flop 662, and check/ shove J turn. I am inclined to call here as he will not call with 77 type hand, or worse jack?

Time Link to 01:03:52

Do you think villian should flat with his 6s here pre since you been callings his 3 bets more frequently and he's building pot with small pair oop and you have all the momentum?Also what are we doing here if were villian and we c bet this flop with 6s after you raise kind of feels like your running us over but at the same time dont think your gonna raise with air here since he's tilting.Last 2question if we defended with a5 or a3 is this just a call instead of raise on flop? Calling shove if turn is a brick?

Do you think villian should flat with his 6s here pre since you been callings his 3 bets more frequently and he's building pot with small pair oop and you have all the momentum?Also what are we doing here if were villian and we c bet this flop with 6s after you raise kind of feels like your running us over but at the same time dont think your gonna raise with air here since he's tilting.Last 2question if we defended with a5 or a3 is this just a call instead of raise on flop? Calling shove if turn is a brick?

It's been a while since we made this video so I don't remember the exact game flow, but in general you want to be 3betting with hands like 66 if your opponent is 4betting you a lot, so you can have a reasonable 5betting range. I can't recall how much I was 4betting him here... if I was mostly just flatting hands to his 3bets, then I prefer him not 3betting this type of hand since it can be tough to play oop.

As for his cbet/ship...he made it a little weird for himself because of how big he cbet. He should cbet smaller... once he cbets so big, even a minraise from me gets a lot of money in the pot, so it may be better for him to just stick it in and protect his hand when I have some kind of draw or air. Alternatively, if he bet smaller and there's more stack left to play, I think him calling the flop raise and trying to make good decisions on various turn cards might be better (but can be very tough if you dont know how thinly your opponent can value bet or semibluff).

If we defend A5 or A3 I definitely wouldn't raise the flop here unless I'm forgetting how the dynamic was going. Raising the flop with second pair to get it in is something I'm only doing vs very advanced players, mostly because the stacks willl be such they may call with a good number of hands that have showdown value (as I mentioned earlier) and are capable of shoving with air/semibluffs more. If this guy was just shoving over flop raises a ton and I"m forgetting, then raising the flop with A5 to induce might not be so bad, but he'd have to be shoving an awful lot and be 3betting awfully wide to get around the fact that he is also shoving all hands that have us beat (indicated by him shoving 66 here) so we're gonna have only 5 outs a lot.

With these rules, if you pick up a large pocket pair surely you should just shove? Or if you can't do that raise to nearly all in?

With these rules, if you pick up a large pocket pair surely you should just shove? Or if you can't do that raise to nearly all in?

Sorry I'm not sure what you are asking about, can you clarify your question?

Truly stunning to watch two masters in action.
Thanks for your work!

Time Link to 00:22:21

Merry Christmas to you too!
Come on by and play some 1/2 on merge sometime!

haha awesome
I wouldn't be surprised if Rosenkrantz creams 1/2 hunl after half a bottle of jack..

I love this line "well now we're deep with him and he thinks we're crazy so it's not that bad of a spot" at 24 min.
That's the mentality throughout the series: if life throws you a blade of grass, use it to slay you're opponent! -Using every edge to his max advantage no matter what it is. Incredibly skillful.

Merry Christmas to you too!
Come on by and play some 1/2 on merge sometime!

haha awesome
I wouldn't be surprised if Rosenkrantz creams 1/2 hunl after half a bottle of jack..

I love this line "well now we're deep with him and he thinks we're crazy so it's not that bad of a spot" at 24 min.
That's the mentality throughout the series: if life throws you a blade of grass, use it to slay you're opponent! -Using every edge to his max advantage no matter what it is. Incredibly skillful.

Haha... blasts from the past with the original p1 series.

Ok so on this A3 hand that got linked... UGH. Ok first, my god check this hand behind on the flop. I definitely agree with if we bet, we need to bet/call, but wejust got done saying we think this guy thinks we are crazy... if that's the case we're going to get in too many sticky spots by betting and either folding the best hand or getting owned on the turn or river. So just check 2008 Aaron!

Secondly, on the turn, when he checks to us it usually indicates that he has some showdown value whether it's Jx or a picked up K or a weird flop c/r with 6x or 2x. Either way, if he was bluffing the flop he's much more likely to follow through on this turn as it shouldn't hit us, especially if he picked up a draw. I think my line suggestion of checking behind the turn and betting the river is most consistent with how most would play Jx... but are we really getting him off any better hands by betting the river? I'd say no, but it does stop him from gaining the read that we a) bet A high on the flop and b) were willing to call his c/r and give him info about how we think about checkraises on that board.

Once we do bet the turn, I now somewhat agree with Jay that I would rather bet/call. his line makes little sense because of what our perceived turn betting range should be and what I described of his turn range above. If he has a semibluff, it would usually just bet the turn. If he has a value hand, it makes little sense for him to crai...but obviously this opponent wasn't thinking that deeply anyway. I kinda soul read that he had Kx but in general I think it's kind of a dumb soul read lol...I don't remember anything about this match as the vid was recorded so long ago but it's pretty ridiculous for him to play Kx this way for reasons stated above (even though he did).

Haha... we got a lot better at poker over the last 3 years

Haha... blasts from the past with the original p1 series.

Ok so on this A3 hand that got linked... UGH. Ok first, my god check this hand behind on the flop. I definitely agree with if we bet, we need to bet/call, but wejust got done saying we think this guy thinks we are crazy... if that's the case we're going to get in too many sticky spots by betting and either folding the best hand or getting owned on the turn or river. So just check 2008 Aaron!

Secondly, on the turn, when he checks to us it usually indicates that he has some showdown value whether it's Jx or a picked up K or a weird flop c/r with 6x or 2x. Either way, if he was bluffing the flop he's much more likely to follow through on this turn as it shouldn't hit us, especially if he picked up a draw. I think my line suggestion of checking behind the turn and betting the river is most consistent with how most would play Jx... but are we really getting him off any better hands by betting the river? I'd say no, but it does stop him from gaining the read that we a) bet A high on the flop and b) were willing to call his c/r and give him info about how we think about checkraises on that board.

Once we do bet the turn, I now somewhat agree with Jay that I would rather bet/call. his line makes little sense because of what our perceived turn betting range should be and what I described of his turn range above. If he has a semibluff, it would usually just bet the turn. If he has a value hand, it makes little sense for him to crai...but obviously this opponent wasn't thinking that deeply anyway. I kinda soul read that he had Kx but in general I think it's kind of a dumb soul read lol...I don't remember anything about this match as the vid was recorded so long ago but it's pretty ridiculous for him to play Kx this way for reasons stated above (even though he did).

Haha... we got a lot better at poker over the last 3 years

he seems like aggressive 25nl HU player...why must the games improve?

At 53:53 we raise allin with 6c7h on 9hKh3h. We are shoving to get better h's to fold and some pairs and his bluffs?

he seems like aggressive 25nl HU player...why must the games improve?

At 53:53 we raise allin with 6c7h on 9hKh3h. We are shoving to get better h's to fold and some pairs and his bluffs?

So 2012 Aaron (or really 2009 Aaron) would tell 2008 Aaron to fold this hand pre to the 3bet, if I didn't fold it, I'd raise the flop smaller to get a better price, more like $80. We are mostly trying to get him off air and using a hand that we can't really call with to bluff raise with, which is reasonable once we make it to the flop against an aggro guy. If we call, its too easy for us to get barreled, and if i remember right (been a while ... lol) the guy was pretty aggro pre which is probably why we defended this hand to begin with (which isn't great). We might be able to get him off some better single heart hands, probably get him to fold some pairs < 9, and the rest we're getting him off of is pure air. If he does call the flop, we're probably checking every single turn and playing the river accordingly.