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pr1nnyraiding: Episode One by KRANTZ, WiltOnTilt

In Episode One of "pr1nnyraiding," KRANTZ and WiltOnTilt walk you through the basics of head's up no limit play, discussion the power of the button, preflop handranges, player types, and table selection.

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Krantz and WiltOnTilt provide a heads up No Limit primer. A comprehensive guide to beating small stakes HU NLHE.

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Sigurd

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Enjoyed the kick off! I'm not sold on playing short stacks however. Maybe this is geared more for someone just wanting to learn HU, but I have found shorties are the worst players in terms of never going off for a big number and hit and running for stupid amounts. Seldom in my years of playing HU have I seen a short stack go off for 4+ buyins when match is over. I would much prefer sitting with a big stack where I have greater potential than him. The key to heads up in my opinion is finding the guys who will tilt and have massive ego's and will just play and play when clearly momentum isn't going their way. Maybe later in the series this will be covered.

Regarding Pokertracker, my view is when you start off playing HU you shouldn't be playing multiple tables nor should you use PT as a crutch. Maybe my view is skewed since I have never used PT in my years of playing HU, but if you simply pay attention to the action at the table you can throw stats out the window.

Please don't take this as a negative comment post, as I love always learning more about HU strategy esp. from two great players, I just wanted to offer a different perspective to perhaps change my own thinking on the above subjects.

LP

Posted almost 10 years ago

KRANTZ

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Enjoyed the kick off! I'm not sold on playing short stacks however. Maybe this is geared more for someone just wanting to learn HU, but I have found shorties are the worst players in terms of never going off for a big number and hit and running for stupid amounts. Seldom in my years of playing HU have I seen a short stack go off for 4+ buyins when match is over. I would much prefer sitting with a big stack where I have greater potential than him. The key to heads up in my opinion is finding the guys who will tilt and have massive ego's and will just play and play when clearly momentum isn't going their way. Maybe later in the series this will be covered.

Regarding Pokertracker, my view is when you start off playing HU you shouldn't be playing multiple tables nor should you use PT as a crutch. Maybe my view is skewed since I have never used PT in my years of playing HU, but if you simply pay attention to the action at the table you can throw stats out the window.

Please don't take this as a negative comment post, as I love always learning more about HU strategy esp. from two great players, I just wanted to offer a different perspective to perhaps change my own thinking on the above subjects.

LP



Very good point regarding PT, and this is something that we'll be touching on throughout the series. Stats are a way of IDENTIFY-ing :-) your opponent as quickly as possible, but they are not guidelines for how to play against them. You'll want to rely on your General strategy and counterstrategies to beat them, not numbers on the screen.

As for the short stacks, you might change your mind after you see Episode Two. And you might not - those guys can be tilty to play against and make you play badly, especially when they hit and run.

Posted almost 10 years ago

rusty trombone

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the flash version stops and jumps back the start once it gets to the OOP portion.

i had a similar problem with wilts video, so if this is on my end and you guys know how to troubleshoot this, please let me know.

Posted almost 10 years ago

Entity

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the flash version stops and jumps back the start once it gets to the OOP portion.

i had a similar problem with wilts video, so if this is on my end and you guys know how to troubleshoot this, please let me know.



I've heard of the problem but have never been able to duplicate it. Sooooo tough to troubleshoot some of these fancy flash errors unfortunately. What is the time marker where this happens for you? I can try to run it on a few computers but I've already watched it straight through with no errors, so I really have no idea what it could be.

Try upgrading flash (http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/) and let us know what your browser/computer stats are but honestly there's not much we can do to troubleshoot these voodoo errors remotely. Download it FTW so you can enjoy it in the meantime. Smile

Rob

Posted almost 10 years ago

WiltOnTilt

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Hey Lou, thanks for the post.

I tend to agree with you that playing shortstacks isn't the ideal, but we're trying to cover all the bases so that if there are no full stacks around to play, you guys will know how to beat up on the shorties :-)

Also I agree I probably didn't reiterate enough about how the stats are just a guideline and psychology is king when it comes to HU NL. I'll be talking about that more as the series progresses.

For everyone's benefit, the purpose of the stats is to give you a starting point, not an ending point. Use the stats to get a general feel for what you can expect, then use your reads on the player and current game flow to make the majority of your decisions. There are certain stats though, like cbet%, checkraise%, fold to cbet% that simply do not lie and those stats should be taken heavily into consideration when determining counter strategies for various opponents.

WoT

Posted almost 10 years ago

WiltOnTilt

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Oh ya, and Sigurd i couldn't agree more about the intro. Entity did one hell of a job on that :-) I love it and watch it like 5x per day haha!

Posted almost 10 years ago

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Very nice. Can you post that HUD layout?

Posted almost 10 years ago

Kwantum

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WoT -- Nice tip on how people who manually post the blinds are more likely to be hit'n'run artists. Smile

Posted almost 10 years ago

WiltOnTilt

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Very nice. Can you post that HUD layout?



turoati, here ya go.

right click, save as: http://www.plusevpoker.com/ftphu.pah

WoT

Posted almost 10 years ago

shyturtle27

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Awesome freaking season opener! Great general outline of preflop play and everything. Couple of questions however:

1.) In my experience in HU I've seen great HU players open 60%+ hands from the button and be considered TAG. The general guidelines layed out in this video is a bit over half of that. Are these just "open everytime regardless of villian" type hands or are they a default range to play against an unknown until you find his style and adjust?

2.) I haven't moved up the 50NL yet (that's the losest stakes HUCASH is spread I think) and the only HU experience I can get is playing HUSNG's. How would you guys adjust this strategy to these? Tighter or looser? Less aggressive?

Thanks!

Posted almost 10 years ago

archangel95

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Where should we post HU hands as we attempt to implement and learn this? I posted one in the low stakes NLHE section but got no replies and I have another I think is interesting, but I don't want to go to the trouble of posting it if no one is gonna reply.

Awesome vid though and I'm really excited about this series and I'm enjoying my subscription.

Posted almost 10 years ago

KRANTZ

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Where should we post HU hands as we attempt to implement and learn this? I posted one in the low stakes NLHE section but got no replies and I have another I think is interesting, but I don't want to go to the trouble of posting it if no one is gonna reply.

Awesome vid though and I'm really excited about this series and I'm enjoying my subscription.



Feel free to post them here if they relate to the topics in the video. Otherwise, one of us will get around to them in the strat forums :-)

Posted almost 10 years ago

KRANTZ

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Awesome freaking season opener! Great general outline of preflop play and everything. Couple of questions however:

1.) In my experience in HU I've seen great HU players open 60%+ hands from the button and be considered TAG. The general guidelines layed out in this video is a bit over half of that. Are these just "open everytime regardless of villian" type hands or are they a default range to play against an unknown until you find his style and adjust?

2.) I haven't moved up the 50NL yet (that's the losest stakes HUCASH is spread I think) and the only HU experience I can get is playing HUSNG's. How would you guys adjust this strategy to these? Tighter or looser? Less aggressive?

Thanks!



1- Both. In future episodes we will be talking about deviating from General strategy which includes both tightening and loosening up your opening and calling (and reraising) ranges. One of the main purposes in offering these starting hand criteria though is to eliminate lots of the trouble spots that might come up for beginners who aren't used to getting involved in so many marginal situations with a diverse distribution.

2- Tighter, I think, because of the escalating blinds, but I'm really not even close to 100% sure. I'm sure the way to think about the game is the same, but there are technical details unique to SNGs that I'm probably not qualified to comment on.

Posted almost 10 years ago

WiltOnTilt

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Where should we post HU hands as we attempt to implement and learn this? I posted one in the low stakes NLHE section but got no replies and I have another I think is interesting, but I don't want to go to the trouble of posting it if no one is gonna reply.

Awesome vid though and I'm really excited about this series and I'm enjoying my subscription.



we really should just get a HU NL forum...

Posted almost 10 years ago

Ulkis

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Now I have not played HU ever but even I was taking notes on hand ranges etc. I got the illusion even I could go to 50NL HU table with said general strategy and not get slaughtered - that's how good I thought the 1st episode was in explaining the core for beginner.

But I hate the variance (that is why I play FR) and prefer my hourly WR just ticking over, slowly but surely. But come one Saturday night and after coupla beers, perhaps I will try HU.

This series is one example where it is not that relevant for me personally, but still very interesting to watch for my general poker education to broaden my knowleadge.

It will be interesting to watch some HU videos with holecards and compare preflop play against general strategy hand range.

Posted almost 10 years ago

Mendez

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Re: button opening range. Even as a general strategy, this seems way too tight. Bear in mind that if you raise 33% of your hands from the button, your opponent can fold every single hand in the BB and break even. I stuck the button opening range suggested in the video into Pokerstove and it comes out as 37%. This means that your opponent could make a profit in the BB by playing only QQ+ AQ+.

Posted almost 10 years ago

archangel95

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Where should we post HU hands as we attempt to implement and learn this? I posted one in the low stakes NLHE section but got no replies and I have another I think is interesting, but I don't want to go to the trouble of posting it if no one is gonna reply.

Awesome vid though and I'm really excited about this series and I'm enjoying my subscription.

Feel free to post them here if they relate to the topics in the video. Otherwise, one of us will get around to them in the strat forums :-)



Question was about reraising AJo and how to play it post flop... Is this correct? I can't get converter to work. I felt like I had a decent hand but if I pushed the action and got called I was likely behind.

PokerStars Game #15817711585: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/03/07 - 22:02:55 (ET)
Table 'Megrez V' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 3: archangel95 ($101 in chips)
Seat 7: theAlchemizt ($59 in chips)
theAlchemizt: posts small blind $0.50
archangel95: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to archangel95 [Jc Ad]
theAlchemizt: raises $3 to $4
archangel95: raises $10 to $14
theAlchemizt: calls $10
*** FLOP *** [9h Kd Js]
archangel95: checks
theAlchemizt: bets $14
archangel95: calls $14
*** TURN *** [9h Kd Js] [4d]
archangel95: checks
theAlchemizt: checks
*** RIVER *** [9h Kd Js 4d] [2h]
archangel95: checks
theAlchemizt: checks

Posted almost 10 years ago

KRANTZ

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Re: button opening range. Even as a general strategy, this seems way too tight. Bear in mind that if you raise 33% of your hands from the button, your opponent can fold every single hand in the BB and break even. I stuck the button opening range suggested in the video into Pokerstove and it comes out as 37%. This means that your opponent could make a profit in the BB by playing only QQ+ AQ+.



The strategy is meant for beginners and you can of course add hands as you see fit. I have a much looser opening range personally, and again, you'll hear about how and why to add hands as we start talking about how to play some of the more common (and marginal) postflop situations.

A point I'll make is that your opponent could make a profit by only playing those hands (QQ+), but he won't only play those hands. Which is what exploitative strategies are all about.

Posted almost 10 years ago

KRANTZ

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Where should we post HU hands as we attempt to implement and learn this? I posted one in the low stakes NLHE section but got no replies and I have another I think is interesting, but I don't want to go to the trouble of posting it if no one is gonna reply.

Awesome vid though and I'm really excited about this series and I'm enjoying my subscription.

Feel free to post them here if they relate to the topics in the video. Otherwise, one of us will get around to them in the strat forums :-)

Question was about reraising AJo and how to play it post flop... Is this correct? I can't get converter to work. I felt like I had a decent hand but if I pushed the action and got called I was likely behind.

PokerStars Game #15817711585: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/03/07 - 22:02:55 (ET)
Table 'Megrez V' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 3: archangel95 ($101 in chips)
Seat 7: theAlchemizt ($59 in chips)
theAlchemizt: posts small blind $0.50
archangel95: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to archangel95 [Jc Ad]
theAlchemizt: raises $3 to $4
archangel95: raises $10 to $14
theAlchemizt: calls $10
*** FLOP *** [9h Kd Js]
archangel95: checks
theAlchemizt: bets $14
archangel95: calls $14
*** TURN *** [9h Kd Js] [4d]
archangel95: checks
theAlchemizt: checks
*** RIVER *** [9h Kd Js 4d] [2h]
archangel95: checks
theAlchemizt: checks



This is well played in a vacuum, but something to keep in mind when posting HU hands (and to a slightly lesser extent shorthanded HHs), is giving reads and notes on your opponent. This could be the worst play ever against some opponents and standard against others.

Posted almost 10 years ago

archangel95

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Yeah it was only the 4th or 5th hand of our match. I didn't really have any notes yet. He mucked 66.

Thank you.

Posted almost 10 years ago

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I really liked the video, but there was no mention of bankroll management for HU Cash. Are you guys going to touch on this?

Posted almost 10 years ago

Mendez

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Where should we post HU hands as we attempt to implement and learn this? I posted one in the low stakes NLHE section but got no replies and I have another I think is interesting, but I don't want to go to the trouble of posting it if no one is gonna reply.

Awesome vid though and I'm really excited about this series and I'm enjoying my subscription.

we really should just get a HU NL forum...



I already posted a request for a NL HU forum in the "About Deuces Cracked" forum, but so far it's only got one reply

Posted almost 10 years ago

WiltOnTilt

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Re: button opening range. Even as a general strategy, this seems way too tight. Bear in mind that if you raise 33% of your hands from the button, your opponent can fold every single hand in the BB and break even. I stuck the button opening range suggested in the video into Pokerstove and it comes out as 37%. This means that your opponent could make a profit in the BB by playing only QQ+ AQ+.

The strategy is meant for beginners and you can of course add hands as you see fit. I have a much looser opening range personally, and again, you'll hear about how and why to add hands as we start talking about how to play some of the more common (and marginal) postflop situations.

A point I'll make is that your opponent could make a profit by only playing those hands (QQ+), but he won't only play those hands. Which is what exploitative strategies are all about.



Bingo!

Posted almost 10 years ago

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For a future episode I would love to see one on Tournament/SNG HU vs Cash game HU. And how your strategies would vary between the too.

Posted almost 10 years ago

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absolutely loved it! I was just recently getting into HU cash, this is very helpful stuff!

Posted almost 10 years ago

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Hello, nice vid. Is there going to be anything on Br mgmt for HU in these series? If not, what general guidelines do you reccomend.

Thanks

Kev

Posted almost 10 years ago

KRANTZ

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Hello, nice vid. Is there going to be anything on Br mgmt for HU in these series? If not, what general guidelines do you reccomend.

Thanks

Kev



We don't have that planned, but I'd recommend between 50-100 buyins for your regular level. HU can be much swingier than 6handed.

Posted almost 10 years ago

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Quoted from above:

"I stuck the button opening range suggested in the video into Pokerstove and it comes out as 37%. This means that your opponent could make a profit in the BB by playing only QQ+ AQ+."


Question: How do you arrive at {QQ+,AQ+} range when knowing what % of hands he opens on the BTN? Just curious, as I have no idea how to solve that.

Posted almost 10 years ago

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Very nice. Can you post that HUD layout?

turoati, here ya go.

right click, save as: http://www.plusevpoker.com/ftphu.pah

WoT

I can't seem to save it on my disk?

Posted almost 10 years ago

Timmehhh

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Very nice. Can you post that HUD layout?

turoati, here ya go.

right click, save as: http://www.plusevpoker.com/ftphu.pah

WoTI can't seem to save it on my disk?


Nevermind I opened it in the firefox browser, and copied the firefox tab to my desktop.

Posted almost 10 years ago

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my god. this and episode 2 are easily the best videos i have ever watched in my life. cant wait for the rest.

Posted almost 10 years ago

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Just checking out HU as I'm a 6max player now but it is interesting for sure. You gave some great info regarding table selection and I found the opening hands very interesting as well. I also saw some vagabonds pop in and out from 200 6 max. Funny. I'll certainly continue with the series and maybe I'll be donking around with the 200HU folks soon as well.

Thanks, Mark

Posted over 9 years ago

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Very nice. Can you post that HUD layout?

turoati, here ya go.

right click, save as: http://www.plusevpoker.com/ftphu.pah

WoTI can't seem to save it on my disk?
Nevermind I opened it in the firefox browser, and copied the firefox tab to my desktop.



can't save it either and IE can't open it

Posted over 9 years ago

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Site: FTP
Seats: 2
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Posted over 9 years ago

WiltOnTilt

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copy/paste the above and put it into a .pah file, then you should be able to import it.

not sure why the right click/save as method didn't work on ie... works fine for me.

WoT

Posted over 9 years ago

TheBeloved

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wilt/krantz,

I'm just getting round to watching the series and had a really basic question.

In episode 1 you mention hands to open, hands to defend and hands to 3 bet with. You don't mention hands to call 3 bets with.

I imagine you're calling with any of the hands you also 3 bet with but being on the button how can that range be expanded in a general strategy kind of way ?

Also how are we adjusting for stack size 150-200 bb etc

thanks

thebeloved

Posted over 9 years ago

mattiesmat

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Hey,

Very helpful and good video.
I have a question however.
You gave a pretty tight range for open raising on the button.
What about open limping some hands like medium Kings and Queens?

Posted over 9 years ago

WiltOnTilt

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Hey,

Very helpful and good video.
I have a question however.
You gave a pretty tight range for open raising on the button.
What about open limping some hands like medium Kings and Queens?



we generally do not advocate limping until we have a reason to. Also our range is pretty tight so far since we're trying to lay the foundation for a "General" strategy, keeping new players out of trouble. As the series progresses, you will see hands we analyze where we're playing starting hands that are outside of our general strategy, and we usually give the reasoning for why we'd play those particular hands.

At some point we do limp some hands (i think probably in the videos we made towards the end of the series?) and we'll give the reasoning for doing so (usually because we're getting 3bet a ton), but as a default we like to teach a raise or fold strategy from the button until we have a reason to deviate from that.

Hope you're enjoying the series,
WoT

Posted over 9 years ago

itsruss

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copy/paste the above and put it into a .pah file, then you should be able to import it.

not sure why the right click/save as method didn't work on ie... works fine for me.

WoT




Hey man,

How do you import the .pah file?

Will that work for UltimateBet as well?

Thanks..

Posted over 9 years ago

carolinchens

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P.s.: Sorry - i saw you answered this question to some other guys. Sorry for posting ouble!


hi

i just started NL HU and already saw the dogisheads Up series and think it was pretty good! When i saw you openraisingrange you spoke about in the first episode i get a bit confused. You openraise only 35% from the button (you don´t show K8o and Q7o etc. in your charts) - i don´t unerstand why playing sooo tight? Gman and Dogishea spoke about openraising about 75% from the button? where ist my fault in unerstanding?

regards

Posted almost 9 years ago

WiltOnTilt

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P.s.: Sorry - i saw you answered this question to some other guys. Sorry for posting ouble!


hi

i just started NL HU and already saw the dogisheads Up series and think it was pretty good! When i saw you openraisingrange you spoke about in the first episode i get a bit confused. You openraise only 35% from the button (you don´t show K8o and Q7o etc. in your charts) - i don´t unerstand why playing sooo tight? Gman and Dogishea spoke about openraising about 75% from the button? where ist my fault in unerstanding?

regards



we wanted to start off people in pr1nnyraiding 1 playing tight from both bb and sb. i think we might have over done it, although i do think that opening 75% from the sb is too much for someone who is just starting out in HU poker. i think somewhere between 55 and 65% is probably better, but i think we did over do it a little with our recommendations. In our defense, we did comment a few times throughout this series that our chart is where you should START and then adjust based on player type after we figure out how the the match is gonna go (likely getting more aggro/loose)

Hope that helps
WoT

Posted almost 9 years ago

JeckaJam

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Is there a reason that the starting hands for the button for offsuit connectors you left out Q9o+?

Posted almost 9 years ago

WiltOnTilt

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Is there a reason that the starting hands for the button for offsuit connectors you left out Q9o+?



oversight

Posted almost 9 years ago

mogwai316

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I'm watching the series a year after it was released. Just thought it was hilarious that the guy who bought in for 40bb and hit+ran Wilt for like $5 is now a big winner at 5000NL HU. Maybe he saw the video and was inspired by it?

Posted over 8 years ago

simpleasspie

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I gonna learn how to beat shorties Im so excited!

mogwai316, i wonder how many times at a day he does hit-n-run at 25/50 now, lol

Posted over 8 years ago

aMunkWins

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This video is not working for me. All the other videos is working Smile

Posted over 8 years ago

Entity

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This video is not working for me. All the other videos is working Smile


The video plays back fine here -- what browser are you using? Are you trying to download, and if so, which version, or are you playing it back inside the browser (Flash streaming)?

Rob

Posted over 8 years ago

DurzoBlint

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Hi everyone,
Since we don't fold tp until we have a reason to , i think that could be interesting to list here what are your reasons for folding tp, and even more interesting if some coaches could give their opinions.Here is one i was thinking about recently:

-Flop c/r + turn barrell from a villain who has low 3bet% (and in line c/r flop %)

I think this could be a reason because villain's range here is full of overpairs and tp that has us outkicked (at worse).Opinions?
Also has someone reasons for folding it on the flop?

Thanks

Posted over 8 years ago

eLf1

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dangaveyou

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Just won 10 heads-up sit an go's in a row after watching this video... I actually haven't lost since watching this.

Posted over 7 years ago

Daimontz

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Time Link to 00:08:15

How do you do this in bigger buyin games? You wont get it in on the river with 3x that easy.

Posted about 7 years ago

KRANTZ

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How do you do this in bigger buyin games? You wont get it in on the river with 3x that easy.



overbetting, but a lot of the time you just won't be able to/don't want to or need to get all-in by the river with deep stacks

Posted about 7 years ago

Daimontz

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Ok, so you dont want to start opening 4x or something like that to get more value out of your hands in bigger buyin games?

Posted about 7 years ago

KRANTZ

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Ok, so you dont want to start opening 4x or something like that to get more value out of your hands in bigger buyin games?



you can think about doing this as stacks get deeper and deeper, just make sure if you are raising to 4x from one position you're doing it with your whole range and not just your good hands

Posted about 7 years ago

rrumsey

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DetroitMojo

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Like how Krantz and Wilt kick this series off: no f-ing around, right down to the nuts and bolts and meat of the matter.

Posted over 6 years ago

CZECHDONKY

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isnt open range so tight ? K8s+,Q9+,J9+ ? is it right ?...btw i have one question : i wanna ask about 3betting light,do you have static range for example : vs unknown player i 3bet light 22-55,A2o-A5o OR you make 3bet light by situatin for exmaple : once u you raise him with 22 once you call him with 22 after you raise him with K7o and sometimes you fold K7o....??How do you play this ? Do you have static range or by situation THX

Posted over 5 years ago

WiltOnTilt

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isnt open range so tight ? K8s+,Q9+,J9+ ? is it right ?...btw i have one question : i wanna ask about 3betting light,do you have static range for example : vs unknown player i 3bet light 22-55,A2o-A5o OR you make 3bet light by situatin for exmaple : once u you raise him with 22 once you call him with 22 after you raise him with K7o and sometimes you fold K7o....??How do you play this ? Do you have static range or by situation THX



yes these videos are extremely old. A lot has changed in the last 4-5 years lol... watch pr1nnyraiding 2 and 3 instead of these. p3 has updated hand charts.

these videos were way ahead of it's time when they came out, but there are better resources now. Check out the other pr1nnyraiding series and my hu mentor videos for more up to date strategy.

Posted over 5 years ago

Deets

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Aaron, I was going to go through the who Pr1nnyraiding series 1-3 as I'm getting into HU. I'm not using the hand charts or anything but working on stuff like how postflop ranges differ from 6max and how to play against common player types.

Do you think it would actually be counter-productive to study series 1? Do the other series completely supersede it?

Posted over 5 years ago

WiltOnTilt

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Aaron, I was going to go through the who Pr1nnyraiding series 1-3 as I'm getting into HU. I'm not using the hand charts or anything but working on stuff like how postflop ranges differ from 6max and how to play against common player types.

Do you think it would actually be counter-productive to study series 1? Do the other series completely supersede it?



yea, skip to season 2 and 3 and maybe also just focus more on my recent mentor videos. they have the most up to date heads up stuff in them... the games have evolved a lot since black friday

Posted over 5 years ago

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WiltOnTilt

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Are TAGs the average in HU Poker?



This video is so far out of date Frown It doesn't really apply these days.

I think these days I don't really categorize players in terms of tag/lag/etc for HU anymore. Now it's more about how they play each individual situation. Do they understand their own hand range? Do they take lines to protect their hand range? Do they change bet sizes based on board texture? questions like that.

Posted almost 2 years ago

dddogkillah

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This video is so far out of date Frown It doesn't really apply these days.

I think these days I don't really categorize players in terms of tag/lag/etc for HU anymore. Now it's more about how they play each individual situation. Do they understand their own hand range? Do they take lines to protect their hand range? Do they change bet sizes based on board texture? questions like that.


Seen Krantz on the Poker Life Podcast yesterday!!
Talking about almost everything except poker Smile
Great guy!!!

Posted almost 2 years ago



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