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Hitchhiker's Guide to SNGs: Episode Six

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Hitchhiker's Guide to SNGs: Episode Six by bones

Bones invites in his former student Paul to discuss 18-man small stake buy in tournaments.

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AMT and bones cover everything you need to know to travel the universe of SNGs. How to study, where to play, bankroll management, and more included. Make sure you bring your towel.

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  • Game: mttsng
  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 59 minutes long
  • Posted about 2 years ago

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Comments for Hitchhiker's Guide to SNGs: Episode Six

urinpain

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omg, 2colordeck! I see flushs everywhere! :-O

Posted about 2 years ago

bones

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Just wanted to thank Paul again for his help. Lemme know what you guys think about the format.

Fire away with any questions.

Posted about 2 years ago

Jafeeio

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Time Link to 00:49:38

I really enjoyed it.

I don't know if you usually coach this way, but letting Paul play his way and discuss afterwards worked nicely.

In the end you were a little bit too focused on the headsup and I was surprised by some of the unimaginative 15 bb+ shoves. You shortly mention minraising as an alternative and against this opponent I would strongly prefer minraising. We definately have an edge and still room to play.

In the meantime an interesting spot on the left occured which I have timestamped. I didn't review the video for the player's tendencies, but limping in with under 3 bbs left on the bubble can't be the strongest play and since we have a nice stack, a discount in the sb and by far wouldn't be crippled if he indeed was trapping I would shove here. You didn't talk about the hand in the video, so maybe you missed it too.

Posted about 2 years ago

pinotsniffer

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nice video, am really enjoying this series.

Posted about 2 years ago

bones

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I really enjoyed it.

I don't know if you usually coach this way, but letting Paul play his way and discuss afterwards worked nicely.

In the end you were a little bit too focused on the headsup and I was surprised by some of the unimaginative 15 bb+ shoves. You shortly mention minraising as an alternative and against this opponent I would strongly prefer minraising. We definately have an edge and still room to play.

In the meantime an interesting spot on the left occured which I have timestamped. I didn't review the video for the player's tendencies, but limping in with under 3 bbs left on the bubble can't be the strongest play and since we have a nice stack, a discount in the sb and by far wouldn't be crippled if he indeed was trapping I would shove here. You didn't talk about the hand in the video, so maybe you missed it too.



I would shove over the limper with a hand that had a little more high card value. T9s just doesn't have enough showdown value and I wouldn't expect the limper to ever fold.

Posted about 2 years ago

stregachess

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In the end you were a little bit too focused on the headsup and I was surprised by some of the unimaginative 15 bb+ shoves.




Really? I guess I'm just bad at math figured more like 12 bb+ where I do 15?
I'll have to review it, Bones is a great coach but not matter how solid a coach I felt like a noob letting folks seem my play. For sure.... it gave me a lot to think about.... so many holes and only so many hours in a day..

Posted about 2 years ago

SmartDarth

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It's always nice to see a student play instead of a coach (no offense there), gives a lot difference perspective on the game.

As mentioned by Jafeeio, the two of you worked pretty well together for that kind of vid format. So pokerwise I've got no actuall comments, cause of Bones comments to certain hands and situations (great job).

Paul, you seem to have something working in the backround, cause I don't see you hitting bottons or slider that often. Do you use Table Ninja (I see it on your desktop)or something else? Would you recommend that kind of software to a micro/small stakes SNG player, playing no more than 6tables? Or would you rather see the relation between bankroll (buy-in) and price for purchase?

Last questions to your Pokerstars Info-Window at the table. You do not hit Refresh as far as I could see, but you got your actual position and number of players in the tournament refreshed which is really helpfull.

Btw you did pretty well for someone who felt like a noob.

Posted about 2 years ago

urinpain

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Time Link to 00:03:59

Did I get that right? You would have raised AQo BUT just limped AQs? Why not raising AQs?

Posted about 2 years ago

urinpain

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Time Link to 00:06:24

I'm no MTT player, so I'm not used to limp hands like A7s in UTG. Is this some kind of standard? I mean this is just a 18man MTT...

Besides, I don't like the betsize on the flop, because we are 4handed here. You would really want to bet more here.

(btw. Hero bet the turn, not villain.)

Posted about 2 years ago

urinpain

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Time Link to 00:23:41

... and if not shoving preflop, bet more on the flop! It's 4handed and a lot of potential draws may be out there (and a lot of guys like to call with there OCs there)

Posted about 2 years ago

urinpain

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Time Link to 00:37:58

Are you sure folding there is ok? I mean if we had called there and won the hand, we would have a stack of ~3k2. If we fold, we have just about 3BB left and therefore almost no FE! And if we win a hand, we just have a stack like 2k2 if we are able to shove from the SB the next hand. If not, we even have just a little more than 2BB left without any FE and therefore just able to double to 1k9 chips.

Posted about 2 years ago

urinpain

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Time Link to 00:44:57

totally agreed on betting the flop/turn, but why bet the river if we had checked the flop and the turn like in this case? What hands do you think is he going to call us? I can't think of a single hand.

Posted about 2 years ago

bones

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Did I get that right? You would have raised AQo BUT just limped AQs? Why not raising AQs?



Suited hands don't mind being multiway, especially suited aces where you can dominate other flushes. I don't think it's necessarily correct to limp behind AQs, but I'd be more likely to do it with AQs than AQo, which really wants to be heads up.

I'm no MTT player, so I'm not used to limp hands like A7s in UTG. Is this some kind of standard? I mean this is just a 18man MTT...

Besides, I don't like the betsize on the flop, because we are 4handed here. You would really want to bet more here.

(btw. Hero bet the turn, not villain.)



I didn't notice his utg limp. Assumed he checked it in from the bb I guess. Limping utg there is pretty bad and def not standard.

... and if not shoving preflop, bet more on the flop! It's 4handed and a lot of potential draws may be out there (and a lot of guys like to call with there OCs there)



I think 375-400 is probably better than 300, but I don't think it's the end of the world.

Are you sure folding there is ok? I mean if we had called there and won the hand, we would have a stack of ~3k2. If we fold, we have just about 3BB left and therefore almost no FE! And if we win a hand, we just have a stack like 2k2 if we are able to shove from the SB the next hand. If not, we even have just a little more than 2BB left without any FE and therefore just able to double to 1k9 chips.



It's pretty close, but I feel like we still have a bit of FE. If someone wanted to call, I wouldn't hate it but I feel like folding and preserving a tiny bit of FE is better.

totally agreed on betting the flop/turn, but why bet the river if we had checked the flop and the turn like in this case? What hands do you think is he going to call us? I can't think of a single hand.



The way the hand played out, we're gonna have the best hand like 99% of the time here. Bet and let him figure out what he's gonna call with.

Posted about 2 years ago

Slickity

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Time Link to 00:23:18

With TT here and < 10xBB it's a pretty standard shove imo. But my question is how big of a stack size are we willing to do this with. I've had some success w/ shoving TT+, AK here for up to about 15-18bbs when there's multiple limpers. I've been called by TJs twice now and 88 a few times. But these are just short term results as I've only recently incorporated it into my game and I generally play 45 mans. Also, I'm going to be looking into a coach for the 45 mans in the near future, any good recommendations?

Posted about 2 years ago

stregachess

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Paul, you seem to have something working in the backround, cause I don't see you hitting bottons or slider that often. Do you use Table Ninja (I see it on your desktop)or something else? Would you recommend that kind of software to a micro/small stakes SNG player, playing no more than 6tables? Or would you rather see the relation between bankroll (buy-in) and price for purchase?



Google AHK Scripts Autohotkeys Check out the Wicks one it's free stuff man, free is good...

Posted about 2 years ago

BigJimJones

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"You sorta drift.."

LoL This video was good and also brought a smile to my face.

Posted about 2 years ago

hahasofunny

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Are you sure folding there is ok? I mean if we had called there and won the hand, we would have a stack of ~3k2. If we fold, we have just about 3BB left and therefore almost no FE! And if we win a hand, we just have a stack like 2k2 if we are able to shove from the SB the next hand. If not, we even have just a little more than 2BB left without any FE and therefore just able to double to 1k9 chips.



RO thinking is not good sir.

Posted almost 2 years ago

Charette

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Time Link to 00:19:31

With the 10 J in the top left corner... Would it be to wide of a push range to get it in there?

Posted about 1 year ago

thisisvampire

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is it really necessary to say "ughh" every five seconds?? wow

Posted 11 months ago

thisisvampire

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between bones' voice and this moron's play just wow

Posted 11 months ago

Rollo

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Great first 2 post vampire, I hope you can inject so much wisdom on all of the videos.

Posted 11 months ago

thisisvampire

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just pretty brutal when you have to shut off the video because the instructor's voice is that obnoxious

Posted 11 months ago

bones

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AMT

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just pretty brutal when you have to shut off the video because the instructor's voice is that obnoxious




It's also pretty brutal to have to read completely useless and empty criticisms from an incredibly impatient and clearly uninterested member. If you have something constructive to say, positive or negative, by all means, share it with us. A question? Ask it. A strategic or poker-related concern? Post it! Just please, do not patronize us and don't post to fill up space with useless BS.

Bones isn't even a coach here anymore, and still, he takes the time to check posts here, pop in, answer questions about work he's produced, and share his thoughts with us. I can't say I've never had a problem listening to someone's voice. I guess I've just never thought about trolling the person for it. Pretty unbelievable, but I'm sure Bones appreciates you attempting to watch nonetheless. Hope other videos are less harsh on your ears obviously, wouldn't want to strain you for the information or anything.

Posted 11 months ago



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