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Poker Video: MTT/SNG by Soepgroente (Mid Stakes)

Time Link to 00:03:06

I think i like a flat here too to potentially induce the 2 squeezes behind but again i think its hugely dependent on hud numbers.When you do occasionally flat here vincent what kind of frequencies are optimal on the flop in terms of flatting/folding? I think i probably don't fold the flop ever after flatting here because if i was to flat a weaker hand i would do the same and keeps my range the widest but is exploitable.

Just as an aside i wish that this series had a hud and i hope your next one does include hud numbers. I feel like in this spot specifically whether to 3 bet or flat its just a guess with out some sort of evidence to sway our decision. He could be 19/17/9 or he could be 11/9/2 and we have no idea. I think that this stuff is essential to making decisions. I don't get how people can play without a hud.

Time Link to 00:09:05

If we are bet calling why don't we make it a size where he has room to jam with worse?

I think that we are almost never getting c/called. Betting 3k as opposed to 6k is going to result in a couple worse flush draws getting it in then the bigger bet size but they also jams all aces, QJ, and JT (no hearts). Im not capable of doing the hard math but i think that betting smaller to induce is going to be more +Cev and most likely +$ev. A factor in the decision should be variance as well because this will ratchet it up a few notches

Thoughts on the "wonky" induce with ace high no heart?

Time Link to 00:09:54

In regards to folding a pair, i think when you see a player call a 3 bet OOP with less then 15bbs that they aren't going to fold any pair here. Too easy for them to convince themselves you have a flush draw.

Well, I do play with a hud but as different stages of the tournament pass people change gears so much I'm never too hung up on those stats. I usually make more of a guess based on opponent type and stacksizes/situation "I think he's wide here" or "He's looking to get it in good so he's strong here always". I agree though, if I see like an 8/6 player over last 100 hands raise here I'm probably going to just dump my AQo and not think about it.

If I flat here pre I probably play fit or fold on a lot of boards as our flat looks pretty strong and we don't have a ton of room to play around, so if he cbets he probably has it a lot as most people check ace high in spots like this on low flops. This is probably towards the bottom of my flatting range on flops we miss as well (KQ, AJ being the very bottom on like 942 rainbow, but with that I have a bunch of midpairs and the occasional slowplay). I'm not too worried about being exploitable, in fact I have to be in one way or another to win money

In regards to we don't have a lot of room. Don't you think that plays to our advantage as he is going to have to play face up OTT?

As for the AQo hand I don't think it matters a ton, I think most hands will ship or fold regardless of which betsize I choose. I think I prefer maximizing fold equity vs hands like 44 no heart, JxT etc rather than trying to induce from QJ no hearts or something. With this much money in the pot and a non-monster I think it's almost always better to just take it down. Honestly the only mistakes you can probably make is betting less than 2500 or checking.

And flatting, sure he'll have to play face up on the turn, but I simply feel we're too far behind his range and we're too close to the bottom of our range to do anything but fold on a misser, so he'll both bet a ton and we're still beat a lot if we get to show it down. If somebody has a range a lot wider so that our ace is good a lot I prefer 3b/c pre.

Time Link to 00:34:21

I apologize for the strong negativity but this video is really bogged down by the fact that Soepgroente's partner doesn't understand basic tournament concepts:

- Not knowing what unexploitable means -- ok fine, maybe you're not familiar with the term, but

- Saying random things like "If we feel that we need to make a move, then I can't fault him for shoving with A7" is just spouting nonsense with no regard for whether or not the play is +CEV.

- Saying we should c/f J9 on the turn on 953cc A when we defend the big blind is just ludicrous when you consider that he is barreling his air a huge % and checking back A-hi on the flop some %.

If the discussion and arguments were two-sided and both sides were coming up with valid points, I think the format would be interesting, but honestly I think Soepgroente needs to be paired with someone who actually plays and wins at high stakes because as is the skill divide is creating for a rather hard-to-watch video.

I know there tends to not be much support for any negative feedback but I feel this needs to be said and hope Soepgroente can be paired with someone else (maybe jjyyk) for later episodes in the series.

Hah don't apologise for posting criticism. Especially if it's constructive negative feedback is often more useful than another "excellent video" post (though don't stop posting those either, people! )

I guess it depends on what sort of audience I'm targetting. I think these discussions are excellent for "newer" players that might not grasp these concepts, but obviously it takes away from some of the more advanced discussion. I don't think you can have a video that targets all skill levels tbh, and I think my viewers are mostly people that are decent looking their game to the next level rather than accomplished mtt players. I did like the discussion with Justin overall though, even if he's not as familiar with concepts that are standard to high stakes players he's still a smart player that asks clever questions and is really stubborn if I say something that's not true. Though I guess everything sounds smart in a brittish accent. Not sure.

The first 4 episodes have already been shot, but I made another 2nd place in the warmup last sunday so maybe there's a possibility of this series going longer than 4 eps. I'll look into it, would love to do something with a different mtt coach as well.

I'll look into it, would love to do something with a different mtt coach as well.

+1

Yeh, that other commentator seems pretty clueless. Excellent video overall though.

I apologize for the strong negativity but this video is really bogged down by the fact that Soepgroente's partner doesn't understand basic tournament concepts:

Posting negative comments/ctitique has never been an issue. But I think that using condescending terms such "spouting nonsense" is just simply rude and in my opinion not true.

Suggesting that someone should be replaced in a video because he is not on the same skill-level as the instructor or the skill-level you wish he would be is a bit arrogant.

Maybe you should apply to be part of one of the next videos and share some of your knowledge about high stakes tournaments with us?

Also, I find it a bit well, suspect, that the majority of critical comments are being produced by individuals who are more or less totally unknown, and have yet to contribute anything to the community/forums.

I found the video to be quiet refreshing, and I did enjoy the strategy discussion between the two.

I have to jump in and say that I disagree with most of the criticism. As a MTT player I find that this kind of concept talk is way more valuable than jjyykk's 10tabling videos, which do show some nice moves at certain spots, but are much harder to take more general information from. I enjoyed this video including the Co commentator. It seemed to me, that he was quite a thinking player that was giving valuable input to the discussion. Generelly I like Soepgroente's MTT videos, more of this pls!