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Come Full Circle: Episode Three

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Come Full Circle: Episode Three by threads13

Threads13 is looking at more 4-tabling action and he goes into some theory after his session.

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Threads13 returns to the virtual felt at the Merge Network. Learn about how the FR games are playing, and what strategy adjustments you should make, post-BF.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 66 minutes long
  • Posted about 1 month ago

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Comments for Come Full Circle: Episode Three

DjuNKeLL

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Time Link to 01:11:34

I guess the chance of villain bluffing AK on the river might be the turning point of calling be +EV and -EV right? Because now it is set to 10% I believe and is a big portion of villain range. So that could be some kind of key variable, depending on the tendencies of villain (like AFq river)? Although it is probably still hard to assume how often a villain will bluff AK there.

Oh and the EV calculation is played twice in the vid (one where you realized the sheet was wrong and the good sheet).

Posted 5 months ago

shades

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3bet vs position stat can be real useful vs shortstakers , i wouldnt be surprised to see him 3betting 20 - 30% vs your btn but very little co vs btn and when we dont have to worry about them calling IP i find sometimes i can open a much wider range in the co. (you just folded J9o with him on btn)

Posted 5 months ago

threads13

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3bet vs position stat can be real useful vs shortstakers , i wouldnt be surprised to see him 3betting 20 - 30% vs your btn but very little co vs btn and when we dont have to worry about them calling IP i find sometimes i can open a much wider range in the co. (you just folded J9o with him on btn)




Agree that's something we could check and I have it on my HUD, but it takes a long time to converge. From playing with him my read was already that he c-bets OTB a lot.

Posted 5 months ago

threads13

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I guess the chance of villain bluffing AK on the river might be the turning point of calling be +EV and -EV right? Because now it is set to 10% I believe and is a big portion of villain range. So that could be some kind of key variable, depending on the tendencies of villain (like AFq river)? Although it is probably still hard to assume how often a villain will bluff AK there.

Oh and the EV calculation is played twice in the vid (one where you realized the sheet was wrong and the good sheet).




Yes, I agree. It's tough to estimate how often we think he'll bluff in these spots. I tend to think it's really low, but it look like it doesn't take a lot to make it a call.

@ video error at the end... I'll mention that to Rusty.

Posted 5 months ago

Fjelleif

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this videos are really good, I`m stuck at 10nl full ring but think the stuff you comment goes for micros too, especially I think Im guilty of always betting TP, anyone got videos to recommend me? I play 10nl full ring.

Posted 5 months ago

Diddy

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Time Link to 00:56:47

Hey threads13,

we should also make a case on the river for hitting our Q in my opinion.

I calculated this by myself and ended up at an EV of ~ $-2.3 with your starting assumptions. If we take this into account, your opponent doesnt have to bluff so much more on the Turn, to make this play an breakeven play.

Best wishes
Diddy

Posted 5 months ago

threads13

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Hey threads13,

we should also make a case on the river for hitting our Q in my opinion.

I calculated this by myself and ended up at an EV of ~ $-2.3 with your starting assumptions. If we take this into account, your opponent doesnt have to bluff so much more on the Turn, to make this play an breakeven play.

Best wishes
Diddy




Yes, good point.

Posted 5 months ago

Finnisher

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Time Link to 00:19:17

K5 on table #4: How big a portion of villains' ranges do you think pocket pairs are and/or are you trying to get those to fold (probably have to bet the river too then?)

Posted 5 months ago

threads13

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K5 on table #4: How big a portion of villains' ranges do you think pocket pairs are and/or are you trying to get those to fold (probably have to bet the river too then?)




You mean the TAG, right?

I imagine he calls with all of them pre (overcalling and closing the action). He should be very likely to bet the turn with sets, but he may not go for thin value with JJ/TT type hands. I wouldn't be surprised if he c/c's those hands, and other hands similar to them. He almost never checks an A with a fish in the pot and the board kind of wet, so when he c/c's we put him on JJ/TT type hands as most of his range. Before the call I can still have him on stuff like KQ, KJs, 87, etc. I get enough folds just from them since when we are confident he doesn't have an A. He will be c/f'ing the turn a lot here.

I'm fine with firing two once he calls. We can think that we can have thin value this way (although we should probably bet any thin value hand on the flop). If he calls down then we take a note and know that we can get good value when we check at some point in time in the hand. This becomes a really helpful note because we will have a lot of situations that are similar to this come up.

Posted 5 months ago

Seq

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this videos are really good, I`m stuck at 10nl full ring but think the stuff you comment goes for micros too, especially I think Im guilty of always betting TP, anyone got videos to recommend me? I play 10nl full ring.


Just watch all threads13 videos from the very begging to the end. It helps me alot and improove my game incredibly. GL.

Posted 5 months ago

Marebones

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Time Link to 00:48:43

Will you post a link to your excel sheet? Thanks!!

Posted 5 months ago

threads13

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Will you post a link to your excel sheet? Thanks!!



Here ya go.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OUE7IKTX

Posted 4 months ago



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